nor_o these_o be_v roman_a catholic_n namely_o the_o father_n of_o the_o african_a council_n and_o among_o these_o s._n augustine_n and_o therefore_o by_o pope_n boniface_n his_o sentence_n be_v undoubted_o damn_v for_o take_v upon_o they_o by_o the_o devil_n instinct_n if_o we_o believe_v another_o eulalium_fw-la pope_n boniface_n to_o wax_v proud_a against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n such_o catholic_n if_o you_o mean_v the_o most_o of_o christendom_n be_v at_o this_o day_n beware_v of_o put_v yourself_o upon_o that_o issue_n believe_v i_o either_o you_o must_v frame_v a_o new_a cosmography_n yea_o a_o new_a world_n or_o else_o you_o be_v go_v if_o it_o come_v to_o most_o voice_n in_o christendom_n touch_v the_o name_n of_o papist_n traitor_n idolater_n the_o first_o be_v no_o mis-calling_a you_o as_o comprise_v the_o very_a character_n that_o difference_v you_o from_o all_o other_o catholic_n neither_o by_o our_o rhemists_n advice_n shall_v you_o be_v ashamed_a of_o it_o since_o to_o be_v a_o papist_n by_o their_o interpretation_n be_v nothing_o else_o 11.26_o but_o to_o be_v a_o christian_a man_n a_o child_n of_o the_o church_n and_o subject_a to_o christ_n vicar_n the_o wise_a state_n of_o venice_n have_v a_o little_a different_a notion_n of_o their_o papalines_n exclude_v from_o sundry_a their_o consultation_n under_o that_o name_n such_o of_o the_o nobility_n as_o be_v oblige_v to_o the_o pope_n by_o ecclesiastical_a promotion_n true_a it_o be_v that_o they_o apply_v it_o also_o to_o papalines_n in_o faction_n such_o as_o be_v superstitious_o devote_v to_o the_o maintain_n of_o all_o the_o pope_n usurp_a authority_n in_o which_o sense_n i_o hope_v you_o be_v no_o papist_n a_o traitor_n i_o be_o assure_v mr._n dr._n hall_n will_v never_o call_v you_o unless_o he_o know_v that_o you_o have_v drink_v so_o deep_a of_o the_o cup_n of_o error_n as_o to_o believe_v the_o pope_n may_v depose_v your_o prince_n that_o you_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o obey_v he_o be_v so_o depose_v that_o in_o that_o case_n it_o be_v lawful_a yea_o meritorious_a to_o kill_v he_o that_o they_o be_v martyr_n that_o be_v execute_v for_o plot_v to_o blow_v he_o up_o with_o gunpowder_n though_o undepose_v hope_v it_o will_v be_v no_o less_o agreeable_a to_o his_o holiness_n than_o that_o which_o he_o desire_v to_o have_v keep_v he_o from_o come_v to_o the_o crown_n at_o first_o if_o you_o be_v thus_o perfect_o a_o papist_n not_o only_o we_o here_o in_o england_n but_o i_o believe_v his_o catholic_n majesty_n under_o who_o obedience_n now_o you_o live_v whensoever_o he_o shall_v be_v that_o prince_n will_v account_v you_o a_o traitor_n and_o punish_v you_o according_o i_o hope_v you_o be_v far_o from_o these_o fury_n for_o idolatry_n if_o to_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o creature_n deserve_v that_o name_n consider_v how_o you_o can_v defend_v or_o excuse_v those_o prayer_n to_o the_o bless_a virgin_n tu_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la host_n protege_n &_o horâ_fw-la mortis_fw-la suscipe_fw-la and_o to_o the_o cross_n auge_n piis_fw-la justitiam_fw-la reisque_fw-la dona_fw-la veniam_fw-la i_o omit_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o pope_n omnipotency_n i_o hope_v also_o you_o keep_v yourself_o from_o this_o idolatry_n in_o protestant_a religion_n you_o say_v you_o can_v never_o find_v uniformity_n of_o a_o settle_a faith_n how_o so_o when_o you_o have_v that_o same_o 1._o one_o only_o immovable_a and_o unreformable_a rule_n of_o faith_n as_o tertullian_n call_v it_o every_o lord_n day_n recite_v in_o your_o hear_n if_o not_o by_o your_o mouth_n i_o mean_v the_o creed_n of_o which_o irenaeus_n 3._o say_v that_o he_o which_o be_v able_a to_o say_v much_o of_o the_o faith_n exceed_v it_o not_o nor_o he_o that_o less_o diminish_v which_o dardanum_n s._n augustine_n call_v the_o rule_n common_a to_o great_a and_o small_a which_o may_v well_o enough_o have_v settle_v and_o quit_v your_o conscience_n while_o you_o labour_v to_o find_v the_o truth_n in_o all_o doubtful_a question_n whereto_o how_o careful_o and_o diligent_o you_o use_v the_o mean_n of_o read_v studying_z and_o pray_v for_o three_o or_o four_o year_n god_n and_o your_o conscience_n best_o know_v for_o confer_v i_o can_v yield_v you_o any_o testimony_n notwithstanding_o our_o familiarity_n and_o that_o we_o be_v not_o many_o mile_n asunder_o and_o you_o be_v also_o privy_a that_o i_o have_v to_o do_v in_o these_o controversy_n with_o some_o of_o that_o side_n and_o see_v some_o sample_n of_o the_o work_n i_o come_v now_o to_o your_o motive_n chap._n ii_o of_o the_o contrariety_n of_o sect_n pretend_v to_o be_v among_o reformer_n in_o the_o front_n whereof_o be_v the_o common_a exception_n to_o our_o contrariety_n of_o sect_n and_o opinion_n etc._n etc._n first_o what_o be_v all_o these_o to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o follow_v none_o but_o christ_n then_o if_o it_o be_v a_o fault_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n that_o there_o be_v strife_n and_o division_n among_o they_o as_o who_o will_v justify_v it_o yet_o let_v it_o find_v pardon_n if_o not_o for_o corinth_n sake_n 27._o and_o the_o primitive_a church_n what_o time_n themistius_n be_v fain_o to_o excuse_v it_o with_o a_o oration_n to_o valens_n the_o emperor_n yet_o even_o for_o rome_n where_o also_o you_o can_v but_o know_v that_o in_o very_a many_o and_o most_o important_a point_n divine_n hold_v one_o thing_n and_o canonist_n another_o the_o french_a and_o late_o also_o the_o venetian_a divine_n resist_v to_o his_o face_n he_o that_o other_o say_v no_o man_n may_v be_v so_o hardy_a as_o to_o ask_v domine_fw-la cur_n ita_fw-la facis_fw-la though_o he_o shall_v draw_v with_o he_o innumerable_a soul_n to_o hell_n your_o spanish_a prelate_n and_o divine_n will_v never_o acknowledge_v in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o mystery_n whereof_o be_v come_v out_o at_o last_o that_o episcopal_a authority_n be_v derive_v from_o he_o nor_o consent_n to_o that_o circumvent_a clause_n proponentibus_fw-la legatis_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o be_v strong_a that_o residence_n be_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la divino_fw-la howsoever_o they_o be_v overrule_v by_o the_o italian_a faction_n whether_o they_o have_v yet_o change_v their_o mind_n you_o can_v better_o tell_v than_o i._o the_o old_a faction_n of_o the_o thomist_n and_o scotist_n be_v yet_o a_o foot_n as_o i_o perceive_v by_o rada_n his_o controversy_n in_o the_o beginning_n whereof_o the_o censor_n of_o the_o book_n have_v this_o sentence_n qua_fw-la propter_fw-la audiendi_fw-la nullatenus_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la have_v theologicas_fw-la contentiones_fw-la è_fw-la medio_fw-la omnino_fw-la explodendas_fw-la arbitrantur_fw-la there_o be_v another_o late_o rise_v between_o the_o dominican_n and_o the_o jesuit_n both_o in_o as_o great_a matter_n and_o pursue_v with_o as_o great_a vehemency_n as_o those_o of_o the_o reform_a church_n except_v only_o a_o few_o fiery_a spirit_n of_o saxony_n but_o in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o reformation_n be_v not_o bring_v in_o by_o any_o one_o man_n but_o by_o the_o joint_a consent_n of_o the_o whole_a so_o it_o be_v yet_o continue_v lutheran_n zwinglians_n calvinist_n be_v not_o know_v among_o we_o save_v by_o hearsay_n whereof_o it_o be_v some_o sign_n that_o yourself_o do_v not_o know_v they_o well_o as_o it_o seem_v when_o you_o distinguish_v they_o from_o protestant_n a_o name_n first_o give_v to_o the_o prince_n and_o free_a city_n of_o germany_n that_o seek_v reformation_n in_o the_o diet_n at_o spire_n anno_fw-la 1529._o and_o from_o they_o pass_v to_o we_o and_o other_o country_n where_o it_o be_v effect_v who_o be_v then_o protestant_n if_o the_o lutheran_n and_o zwinglians_n be_v not_o for_o of_o both_o these_o there_o be_v in_o that_o diet_n the_o helvetian_o and_o part_n adjoin_v of_o germany_n have_v be_v reform_v at_o home_n first_o by_o the_o preach_n of_o zuinglius_fw-la the_o saxon_n and_o the_o remnant_n of_o luther_n who_o much_o about_o one_o time_n and_o without_o any_o correspondence_n begin_v to_o oppose_v the_o pope_n indulgence_n and_o differ_v not_o for_o aught_o that_o ever_o i_o can_v yet_o understand_v save_v in_o the_o manner_n of_o christ_n presence_n in_o the_o eucharist_n yea_o in_o that_o also_o teach_v uniform_o that_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v present_a not_o to_o the_o element_n but_o to_o the_o receiver_n in_o the_o use_n and_o without_o transubstantiation_n as_o for_o those_o who_o you_o call_v calvinist_n and_o the_o rest_n puritan_n cartwrightist_n and_o brownist_n tell_v i_o in_o good_a sooth_n mr._n waddesworth_n how_o do_v they_o differ_v from_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o helvetia_n or_o the_o church_n of_o england_n save_v in_o the_o matter_n of_o government_n only_o see_v then_o all_o this_o contrariety_n of_o sect_n meet_o well_o reconcile_v for_o puritan_n cartwrightist_n and_o brownist_n be_v in_o substance_n of_o doctrine_n all_o one_o with_o
first_o it_o must_v be_v declare_v whether_o you_o mean_v the_o catholic_n church_n or_o a_o true_a part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n for_o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a reason_n of_o these_o to_o error_n against_o the_o catholic_n church_n 2.5_o hell_n gate_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o particular_a when_o christ_n do_v remove_v the_o candlestick_n out_o of_o his_o place_n they_o do_v witness_v the_o church_n of_o africa_n sometime_o most_o catholic_n and_o thus_o it_o seem_v you_o must_v take_v this_o term_n since_o your_o doubt_n be_v whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v of_o the_o true_a church_n or_o no._n beside_o i_o must_v desire_v to_o know_v what_o manner_n of_o error_n you_o mean_v whether_o even_o the_o least_o or_o only_o deadly_a and_o such_o as_o bar_v from_o salvation_n which_o the_o apostle_n call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d heresy_n of_o perdition_n 2_o pet._n 2.1_o take_v now_o your_o own_o choice_n for_o if_o you_o speak_v of_o every_o error_n the_o proposition_n be_v false_a even_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n much_o more_o of_o any_o particular_a church_n yea_o i_o add_v further_o not_o only_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n by_o denomination_n from_o the_o great_a part_n or_o by_o representation_n as_o the_o pastor_n or_o prelate_n thereof_o meet_v in_o a_o council_n which_o be_v still_o the_o mix_a church_n but_o even_o that_o which_o be_v christ_n true_a body_n whereof_o he_o be_v the_o saviour_n and_o which_o shall_v be_v with_o he_o for_o ever_o as_o for_o deadly_a and_o damnable_a error_n this_o true_a and_o proper_o call_v church_n both_o in_o the_o whole_a and_o every_o part_n of_o the_o mix_a church_n be_v yet_o privilege_v from_o they_o final_o 24.24_o for_o it_o be_v keep_v by_o the_o power_n of_o god_n to_o salvation_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a the_o elect_n shall_v thus_o be_v seduce_v truth_n it_o be_v that_o by_o such_o error_n particular_a visible_a assembly_n universal_o and_o obstinate_o defend_v they_o become_v false_o call_v church_n from_o which_o we_o be_v to_o separate_v ourselves_o example_n in_o the_o synagogue_n and_o in_o church_n of_o the_o arian_n now_o let_v we_o see_v your_o assumption_n but_o the_o church_n of_o england_n head_n and_o member_n king_n clergy_n and_o people_n yea_o a_o whole_a council_n of_o protestant_n may_v err_v by_o your_o own_o grant_n i_o answer_v the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o be_v the_o elect_a in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o only_o be_v true_o call_v the_o church_n can_v never_o deadly_o err_v this_o no_o protestant_n will_v grant_v you_o the_o mix_a church_n of_o england_n head_n member_n king_n clergy_n and_o the_o residue_n of_o the_o people_n and_o a_o whole_a council_n of_o protestant_n may_v err_v damnable_o and_o therefore_o much_o more_o fall_n into_o lesser_a error_n this_o they_o grant_v and_o if_o they_o shall_v so_o err_v obstinate_o they_o shall_v deserve_o lose_v the_o name_n of_o a_o trâ—e_a church_n but_o they_o deny_v they_o do_v thus_o err_v yea_o they_o deny_v that_o they_o err_v de_fw-fr facto_fw-la at_o all_o what_o follow_v in_o conclusion_n ergo_fw-la no_o true_a church_n this_o shortness_n in_o suppress_v the_o verb_n will_v make_v a_o man_n think_v you_o mean_v to_o cover_v the_o fault_n of_o your_o discourse_n and_o indeed_o you_o may_v by_o that_o mean_v easy_o beguile_v another_o but_o i_o can_v be_v persuade_v you_o will_v willing_o beguile_v yourself_o sure_o you_o be_v beguile_v if_o you_o mean_v it_o thus_o ergo_fw-la it_o be_v no_o true_a church_n see_v your_o argument_n in_o the_o like_a a_o faithful_a witness_n can_v lie_v but_o socrates_n or_o aristides_n may_v lie_v by_o his_o own_o grant_n ergo_fw-la no_o faithful_a witness_n he_o that_o stand_v upright_a can_v fall_v but_o you_o mr._n waddesworth_n by_o your_o own_o grant_n may_v fall_v ergo_fw-la stand_v not_o upright_o perhaps_o your_o meaning_n be_v ergo_fw-la it_o may_v become_v no_o â—rue_a church_n to_o wit_n when_o it_o shall_v so_o err_v damnable_o but_o than_o it_o follow_v not_o there_o be_v now_o no_o salvation_n in_o it_o and_o therefore_o come_v out_o of_o it_o now_o when_o you_o show_v that_o i_o shall_v account_v â—ou_fw-mi have_v do_v wise_o to_o go_v out_o of_o it_o show_v â—â—at_n in_o any_o one_o point_n and_o take_v i_o with_o â—ou_o in_o the_o mean_a while_n for_o my_o part_n i_o shall_v soon_o trust_v that_o chapman_n that_o shall_v say_v to_o i_o lo_o here_o be_v a_o perfect_a yard_n i_o will_v measure_v as_o true_o as_o i_o can_v and_o when_o i_o have_v do_v take_v the_o yard_n and_o measure_n it_o yourself_o than_o he_o that_o shall_v say_v here_o be_v thus_o much_o you_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o measure_v it_o but_o take_v it_o on_o my_o word_n yea_o though_o one_o of_o his_o apprentice_n shall_v stand_v by_o and_o say_v he_o can_v not_o deceive_v i_o though_o he_o will_v as_o benedictus_fw-la à _fw-la benedictis_fw-la tell_v the_o present_a pope_n volens_fw-la nolens_fw-la errare_fw-la non_fw-la potâ—s_fw-la where_o you_o relate_v your_o endeavour_n to_o defend_v the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o tell_v of_o the_o puritan_n reject_v those_o argument_n you_o can_v use_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n interpret_n scripture_n against_o they_o fly_v to_o their_o own_o arrogant_a spirit_n i_o can_v excuse_v they_o for_o the_o former_a nor_o subscribe_v to_o your_o accusation_n in_o the_o latter_a perhaps_o you_o have_v meet_v with_o some_o more_o fanatical_a brownist_n or_o anabaptist_n who_o here_o you_o call_v puritan_n but_o these_o that_o be_v common_o so_o call_v which_o differ_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n about_o church_n government_n and_o ceremony_n only_o give_v indeed_o too_o little_a to_o the_o authority_n of_o man_n how_o holy_a learned_a or_o ancient_a soever_o which_o be_v their_o fault_n and_o their_o great_a fault_n especial_o in_o matter_n of_o this_o nature_n yet_o they_o fly_v not_o to_o their_o own_o spirit_n as_o you_o charge_v they_o that_o which_o you_o add_v that_o you_o perceive_v the_o most_o protestant_n do_v frame_v the_o like_a evasion_n when_o you_o come_v to_o answer_v the_o argument_n against_o they_o on_o the_o other_o side_n when_o you_o shall_v show_v this_o in_o particular_n i_o shall_v believe_v it_o in_o the_o mean_a while_n i_o believe_v you_o think_v so_o for_o common_o mediocrity_n be_v aggravate_v with_o the_o hatred_n and_o slander_v with_o the_o name_n of_o both_o extreme_n but_o in_o the_o question_n between_o the_o popish_a faction_n and_o we_o you_o may_v easy_o have_v discern_v why_o the_o argument_n from_o bare_a authority_n be_v not_o of_o such_o validity_n for_o ceremony_n and_o matter_n of_o order_n may_v be_v order_v by_o wise_a man_n and_o be_v not_o the_o worse_o but_o the_o better_a if_o they_o be_v ancient_a yea_o if_o they_o be_v common_a to_o we_o with_o rome_n which_o puritan_n will_v by_o no_o mean_n allow_v in_o doctrine_n if_o holy_a man_n yea_o if_o a_o angel_n from_o heaven_n shall_v innovate_v any_o thing_n we_o be_v not_o to_o admit_v it_o now_o the_o controversy_n between_o the_o romanist_n and_o we_o be_v most_o about_o doctrine_n and_o they_o exceed_v as_o much_o in_o extol_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_n in_o their_o private_a opinion_n and_o incommodious_a and_o strain_a speech_n as_o the_o puritan_n in_o depress_v they_o we_o hold_v the_o mean_a and_o give_v as_o much_o to_o the_o authority_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n as_o may_v stand_v with_o the_o truth_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o as_o themselves_o defer_v to_o the_o write_n of_o other_o or_o require_v to_o be_v give_v to_o their_o own_o next_o you_o tell_v of_o your_o follow_v their_o opinion_n who_o will_v make_v the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n still_o to_o be_v all_o one_o in_o essential_a point_n and_o the_o difference_n to_o be_v accidental_a confess_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n though_o sick_a or_o corrupt_v and_o the_o protestant_n to_o be_v derive_v from_o it_o and_o reform_v this_o opinion_n be_v not_o only_o as_o you_o write_v favour_v of_o many_o great_a scholar_n in_o england_n but_o be_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o all_o the_o best_a divine_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n that_o be_v or_o have_v be_v in_o the_o world_n as_o i_o show_v in_o part_n of_o another_o work_n which_o as_o i_o remember_v you_o have_v a_o sight_n of_o wherein_o yet_o i_o fear_v you_o mistake_v the_o term_n accidental_a which_o do_v not_o import_v that_o our_o difference_n be_v but_o slight_a and_o of_o small_a consideration_n but_o that_o all_o those_o opinion_n and_o abuse_n which_o we_o reform_v and_o cut_v off_o be_v not_o of_o the_o faith_n but_o superfluous_a and_o foreign_a yea_o
church_n and_o ancient_a council_n there_o be_v no_o succession_n of_o true_a pastor_n but_o among_o protestant_n the_o say_v due_a form_n and_o right_a intention_n be_v not_o observe_v ergo_fw-la no_o succession_n of_o true_a pastor_n the_o say_v due_a form_n and_o right_a intention_n be_v not_o observe_v among_o protestant_n in_o france_n holland_n nor_o germany_n where_o they_o have_v no_o bishop_n and_o where_o layman_n do_v intermeddle_v in_o the_o make_n of_o their_o minister_n and_o for_o england_n whereas_o the_o council_n require_v the_o ordines_fw-la minores_fw-la of_o subdeacon_n and_o the_o rest_n to_o go_v before_o priesthood_n your_o minister_n be_v make_v per_fw-la saltum_fw-la without_o ever_o be_v subdeacons_n and_o whereas_o the_o council_n require_v three_o bishop_n to_o assist_v at_o the_o consecration_n of_o a_o bishop_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o at_o the_o nagshead_n in_o cheapside_n where_o consecration_n of_o your_o first_o bishop_n be_v attempt_v but_o not_o effect_v whereabout_o i_o remember_v the_o controversy_n you_o have_v with_o one_o there_o be_v but_o one_o bishop_n and_o i_o be_o sure_a there_o be_v such_o a_o matter_n and_o although_o i_o know_v and_o have_v see_v the_o record_n themselves_o that_o afterward_o there_o be_v a_o consecration_n of_o dr._n parker_n at_o lambeth_n and_o three_o bishop_n name_v viz._n miles_n coverdal_n of_o exeter_n one_o hodgeskin_n suffragan_n of_o bedford_n and_o another_o who_o name_n i_o have_v forget_v yet_o it_o be_v very_o doubtful_a that_o coverdal_n be_v make_v bishop_n of_o exeter_n in_o king_n edward_n time_n when_o all_o council_n and_o church-canon_n be_v little_o observe_v he_o be_v never_o himself_n canonical_o consecrate_v and_o so_o if_o he_o be_v no_o canonical_a bishop_n he_o can_v not_o make_v another_o canonical_a and_o the_o three_o unname_v as_o i_o remember_v but_o be_o not_o sure_a be_v only_o a_o bishop_n elect_v and_o not_o consecrate_v and_o so_o be_v not_o sufficient_a but_o hereof_o i_o be_o sure_a that_o they_o do_v consecrate_v parker_n by_o virtue_n of_o a_o breve_fw-la from_o the_o queen_n as_o head_z of_o the_o church_n who_o indeed_o be_v no_o true_a head_n and_o a_o woman_n i_o can_v see_v how_o they_o can_v make_v a_o true_a consecration_n ground_v on_o her_o authority_n furthermore_o make_v your_o minister_n you_o keep_v not_o the_o right_a intention_n for_o neither_o do_v the_o orderer_n nor_o the_o order_v give_v nor_o receive_v the_o order_n as_o a_o sacrament_n nor_o with_o any_o intention_n of_o sacrifice_v also_o they_o want_v the_o matter_n and_o form_n with_o which_o according_a to_o the_o council_n and_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n holy_a order_n shall_v be_v give_v namely_o for_o the_o matter_n priesthood_n be_v give_v by_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o patena_fw-la with_o bread_n and_o of_o the_o chalice_n with_o wine_n deaconship_n by_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o book_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o subdeaconship_n by_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o patena_fw-la alone_o and_o of_o the_o chalice_n empty_a and_o in_o the_o substantial_a form_n of_o priesthood_n you_o do_v fail_v most_o of_o all_o which_o form_n consist_v in_o these_o word_n accipe_fw-la potestatem_fw-la offerendi_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la pro_fw-la vivis_fw-la &_o mortuis_fw-la which_o be_v neither_o say_v nor_o do_v by_o you_o and_o therefore_o well_o may_v you_o be_v call_v minister_n as_o also_o layman_n be_v but_o you_o be_v no_o priest_n wherefore_o i_o conclude_v want_v subdeaconship_n want_v undoubted_a canonical_a bishop_n want_v right_a intention_n want_v matter_n and_o due_a form_n and_o derive_v even_o that_o you_o seem_v to_o have_v from_o a_o woman_n the_o head_n of_o your_o church_n therefore_o you_o have_v no_o true_a pastor_n and_o consequent_o no_o true_a church_n and_o so_o to_o conclude_v and_o not_o to_o weary_v myself_o and_o you_o too_o much_o be_v resolve_v in_o my_o understanding_n by_o these_o and_o many_o other_o argument_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n but_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v and_o be_v the_o only_a true_a church_n because_o it_o alone_o be_v ancient_a catholic_n and_o apostolic_a have_v succession_n unity_n and_o visibility_n in_o all_o age_n and_o place_n yet_o what_o agony_n i_o pass_v with_o my_o will_n here_o i_o will_v over-pass_a only_o i_o can_v pretermit_v to_o tell_v you_o that_o at_o last_o have_v also_o master_v and_o subdue_v my_o will_n to_o relent_v unto_o my_o understanding_n by_o mean_n of_o prayer_n and_o by_o god_n almighty_n grace_n principal_o i_o come_v to_o break_v through_o many_o tentation_n and_o impediment_n and_o from_o a_o trouble_a unquiet_a heart_n to_o a_o fix_a and_o peaceable_a tranquillity_n of_o mind_n for_o which_o i_o do_v most_o humble_o thank_v our_o sweet_a lord_n and_o saviour_n jesus_n before_o who_o with_o all_o reverence_n i_o do_v avouch_v and_o swear_v unto_o you_o as_o i_o shall_v answer_v it_o in_o the_o dreadful_a day_n of_o judgement_n when_o all_o heart_n shall_v be_v discover_v that_o i_o forsake_v protestant_a religion_n for_o very_a fear_n of_o damnation_n and_o become_v a_o catholic_n with_o good_a hope_n of_o salvation_n and_o that_o in_o this_o hope_n i_o do_v continue_v and_o increase_v daily_o and_o that_o i_o will_v not_o for_o all_o the_o world_n become_v a_o protestant_n again_o and_o for_o this_o which_o here_o i_o have_v write_v unto_o you_o in_o great_a haste_n i_o know_v there_o be_v many_o reply_v and_o rejoinder_n wherewith_o i_o can_v never_o be_v satisfy_v nor_o do_v i_o desire_v any_o further_a disputation_n about_o they_o but_o rather_o to_o spend_v the_o rest_n of_o my_o life_n in_o devotion_n yet_o in_o part_n to_o give_v you_o my_o dear_a good_a friend_n some_o account_n of_o my_o selâ—_n have_v now_o so_o good_a a_o occasion_n and_o fit_v a_o messenger_n and_o by_o you_o if_o you_o please_v to_o render_v a_o reason_n of_o my_o faith_n to_o mr._n hall_n who_o in_o his_o say_v print_v epistle_n in_o one_o place_n desire_n to_o know_v the_o motive_n thereof_o i_o have_v thus_o plain_o make_v relation_n of_o some_o point_n among_o many_o whereunto_o if_o mr._n hall_n will_v make_v any_o reply_n i_o do_v desire_v it_o may_v be_v direct_o and_o full_o to_o the_o point_n and_o in_o friendly_a term_n upon_o which_o condition_n i_o do_v pardon_n what_o be_v past_a and_o of_o you_o i_o know_v i_o need_v not_o require_v any_o such_o circumstance_n and_o so_o most_o serious_o entreat_v and_o pray_v to_o our_o gracious_a lord_n to_o direct_v and_o keep_v we_o all_o and_o ever_o in_o his_o holy_a truth_n i_o commend_v you_o unto_o his_o heavenly_a grace_n and_o myself_o unto_o your_o friendly_a love_n your_o very_a affectionate_a and_o true_a love_a friend_n james_n waddesworth_n sevil_n in_o spain_n april_n 1._o 1615._o ✚_o to_o the_o worshipful_a his_o respect_a friend_n mr._n william_n bedell_n at_o his_o house_n in_o s._n edmundsbury_n or_o at_o horinger_n be_v there_o deliver_v in_o suffolk_n kind_a mr._n bedel_n my_o old_a acquaintance_n and_o friend_n have_v hear_v of_o your_o health_n and_o worldly_a welfare_n by_o this_o bearer_n mr._n austen_n your_o neighbour_n and_o by_o he_o have_v opportunity_n to_o salute_v you_o with_o these_o few_o line_n i_o can_v not_o omit_v though_o some_o few_o year_n since_o i_o write_v you_o by_o one_o who_o since_o tell_v i_o certain_o he_o deliver_v my_o letter_n and_o that_o you_o promise_v answer_v and_o so_o you_o be_v in_o my_o debt_n which_o i_o do_v not_o claim_v nor_o urge_v so_o much_o as_o i_o do_v that_o in_o truth_n and_o before_o our_o lord_n i_o speak_v it_o you_o do_v owe_v i_o love_v in_o all_o mutual_a amity_n for_o the_o hearty_a affectionate_a love_n which_o i_o have_v and_o ever_o do_v bear_v unto_o you_o with_o all_o sincerity_n for_o though_o i_o love_v not_o your_o religion_n wherein_o i_o can_v never_o find_v solid_a truth_n nor_o firm_a hope_n of_o salvation_n as_o thou_fw-mi i_o do_v be_v a_o catholic_n and_o our_o lord_n be_v my_o witness_n who_o shall_v be_v my_o judge_n yet_o indeed_o i_o do_v love_n your_o person_n and_o your_o ingenuous_a honest_a good_a moral_a condition_n which_o ever_o i_o observe_v in_o you_o nor_o do_v i_o desire_v to_o have_v altercation_n with_o mr._n joseph_n hall_n especial_o if_o he_o shall_v proceed_v as_o satirical_o as_o he_o have_v begin_v with_o i_o nor_o with_o any_o other_o man_n and_o much_o less_o will_v i_o have_v any_o debate_n with_o yourself_o who_o i_o do_v esteem_n and_o affect_v as_o before_o i_o have_v write_v nor_o will_v i_o spend_v the_o rest_n of_o my_o life_n which_o i_o take_v to_o be_v short_a for_o my_o lung_n be_v decay_v in_o any_o question_n but_o rather_o in_o devotion_n wherein_o i_o do_v much_o more_o desire_n to_o be_v hot_a and_o
not_o draw_v from_o any_o thing_n à _fw-la parte_fw-la rei_fw-la as_o what_o the_o true_a church_n be_v what_o it_o teach_v or_o such_o â—â—ke_v but_o from_o opinion_n and_o testimony_n what_o man_n say_v of_o that_o of_o rome_n and_o of_o the_o reform_a church_n etc._n etc._n now_o opinion_n be_v no_o certain_a ground_n of_o truth_n no_o not_o in_o natural_a and_o civil_a matter_n much_o less_o in_o religion_n so_o this_o argument_n at_o the_o most_o be_v but_o topical_a and_o probable_a let_v we_o see_v the_o part_n of_o it_o and_o first_o that_o ground_n the_o testimony_n of_o ourselves_o and_o of_o our_o contrary_n be_v much_o more_o sufficient_a and_o certain_a than_o to_o justify_v ourselves_o alone_o sure_o neither_o the_o one_o nor_o the_o other_o be_v sufficient_a or_o certain_a it_o be_v true_a that_o if_o other_o proof_n fail_v and_o we_o will_v follow_v conjecture_n he_o be_v in_o probability_n a_o honest_a man_n that_o other_o beside_o himself_o say_v well_o of_o than_o he_o that_o alone_o testify_v of_o himself_o and_o yet_o according_a to_o truth_n this_o latter_a may_v be_v a_o right_n honest_a man_n and_o dwell_v as_o we_o say_v by_o ill_a neighbour_n or_o where_o he_o be_v not_o know_v or_o require_v not_o the_o testimony_n of_o other_o man_n whereas_o the_o other_o be_v indeed_o a_o knave_n be_v either_o cunning_a to_o conceal_v it_o or_o have_v suborn_v other_o like_o himself_o to_o say_v for_o he_o or_o dwell_v by_o honest_a man_n that_o judge_v and_o say_v the_o best_a and_o in_o this_o very_a kind_n our_o saviour_n attribute_n so_o little_a to_o testimony_n 6.26_o as_o he_o pronounce_v a_o woe_n to_o they_o that_o all_o man_n speak_v well_o of_o so_o in_o our_o case_n it_o be_v more_o probable_a i_o grant_v if_o there_o be_v no_o other_o argument_n to_o clear_v it_o but_o opinion_n and_o most_o voice_n that_o you_o have_v the_o true_a church_n and_o be_v in_o the_o way_n of_o salvation_n than_o we_o because_o we_o give_v you_o a_o better_a testimony_n than_o you_o do_v we_o but_o it_o be_v possible_a we_o be_v both_o deceive_v in_o our_o opinion_n each_o of_o other_o we_o through_o too_o much_o charity_n and_o you_o and_o other_o through_o ignorance_n or_o malice_n herein_o undoubted_o we_o have_v the_o advantage_n of_o you_o and_o the_o rest_n and_o do_v take_v that_o course_n which_o be_v more_o safe_a and_o sure_a to_o avoid_v sin_n that_o if_o we_o do_v fail_v of_o the_o truth_n yet_o we_o be_v deceive_v with_o the_o error_n of_o love_n which_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v hope_v all_o thing_n and_o be_v not_o puff_v up_o we_o avoid_v at_o the_o least_o that_o gulf_n of_o rash_a judgement_n which_o i_o think_v if_o the_o case_n be_v not_o too_o too_o clear_a we_o shall_v all_o fear_n 2.1_o with_o what_o judgement_n you_o judge_v you_o shall_v be_v judge_v thou_o that_o judge_v another_o condemne_v thyself_o but_o that_o you_o may_v a_o little_a better_o consider_v the_o weakness_n of_o this_o discourse_n if_o the_o testimony_n of_o ourselves_o and_o our_o contrary_n be_v sufficient_a and_o certain_a to_o make_v truth_n and_o ever_o more_o safe_a and_o secure_a to_o follow_v that_o side_n which_o have_v that_o testimony_n it_o have_v be_v better_a to_o have_v become_v a_o jewish_a proselyte_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n than_o a_o christian_a for_o the_o christian_n acknowledge_v the_o jew_n to_o be_v the_o people_n of_o god_n heir_n of_o the_o promise_n and_o of_o christ_n and_o style_v they_o brethren_n notwithstanding_o their_o zeal_n to_o the_o ceremony_n and_o tradition_n of_o their_o father_n excuse_v their_o ignorance_n bare_a with_o they_o labour_v to_o give_v they_o content_v in_o all_o thing_n whereas_o they_o to_o the_o contrary_n call_v those_o that_o profess_a christ_n heretic_n and_o sectary_n accurse_v they_o draw_v they_o out_o of_o their_o synagogue_n scourge_v they_o cast_v they_o in_o prison_n compel_v they_o to_o blaspheme_v as_o you_o do_v now_o protestant_n to_o abjure_v though_o in_o other_o cruelty_n i_o confess_v you_o go_v far_o beyond_o they_o by_o like_a reason_n a_o pagan_a in_o s._n augustine_n time_n shall_v rather_o have_v make_v himself_o a_o christian_n among_o the_o donatist_n than_o with_o the_o catholic_n for_o the_o catholic_n grant_v the_o donatists_n baptism_n to_o be_v true_a account_v they_o brethren_n the_o donatist_n to_o the_o contrary_n renounce_v their_o brotherhood_n and_o baptism_n both_o rebaptise_v such_o as_o fall_v to_o their_o side_n use_v these_o form_n to_o their_o friend_n save_o thy_o soul_n 7._o become_v a_o christian_a like_v to_o those_o use_v by_o your_o reconciler_n at_o this_o day_n last_o consider_v if_o this_o ground_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o our_o contrary_n for_o our_o part_n and_o their_o lack_n of_o we_o for_o they_o be_v sure_a you_o have_v justify_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o protestant_n in_o the_o main_a question_n which_o be_v the_o better_a religion_n for_o whatsoever_o a_o protestant_a hold_n as_o of_o faith_n you_o can_v deny_v to_o be_v good_a and_o catholic_n nor_o any_o christian_a man_n else_o for_o he_o bind_v he_o to_o his_o creed_n to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o go_v no_o further_a and_o in_o these_o he_o have_v your_o testimony_n for_o he_o but_o he_o deny_v many_o thing_n which_o you_o believe_v and_o account_v they_o foreign_a yea_o repugnant_a to_o faith_n as_o the_o pope_n infallibility_n transubstantiation_n purgatory_n worship_v of_o image_n invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o all_o these_o you_o speak_v only_o for_o yourselves_o in_o some_o of_o these_o you_o have_v not_o we_o only_o but_o all_o other_o christian_n your_o opposite_n to_o say_v nothing_o of_o the_o jew_n and_o turk_n who_o i_o may_v as_o well_o chock_n you_o withal_o as_o you_o do_v the_o protestant_n with_o anabaptist_n so_o by_o this_o reason_n our_o profession_n be_v more_o safe_a and_o secure_a and_o questionless_a be_v more_o catholic_n than_o you_o neither_o have_v we_o in_o this_o discourse_n the_o argument_n only_o as_o you_o see_v very_o appliable_a and_o favourable_a to_o we_o but_o which_o i_o will_v entreat_v you_o by_o the_o way_n to_o observe_v the_o conclusion_n itself_o often_o grant_v by_o moderate_a and_o sober_a man_n of_o your_o own_o side_n sylâ—ius_n viz._n that_o our_o course_n be_v in_o sundry_a thing_n more_o safe_a than_o you_o as_o in_o make_v no_o image_n of_o god_n in_o trust_v only_o in_o the_o merit_n of_o christ._n in_o worship_v none_o but_o the_o trinity_n in_o direct_v our_o prayer_n to_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n alone_o in_o allow_v minister_n to_o marry_v in_o diverse_a other_o point_n also_o many_o of_o your_o side_n say_v the_o same_o with_o the_o protestant_n and_o defend_v we_o from_o the_o imputation_n which_o other_o of_o you_o lay_v upon_o we_o as_o be_v show_v in_o the_o catholic_n apology_n by_o the_o reverend_a bishop_n of_o chester_n this_o to_o the_o proposition_n let_v we_o come_v to_o the_o assumption_n where_o you_o mince_v too_o much_o the_o protestant_n opinion_n touch_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n when_o you_o make_v they_o say_v it_o be_v peradventure_o faulty_a in_o some_o thing_n nay_o without_o peradventure_o they_o say_v it_o be_v corrupt_a in_o doctrine_n superstitious_a and_o idolatrous_a in_o religion_n tyrannical_a in_o government_n defile_v in_o manner_n from_o the_o crown_n of_o the_o head_n to_o the_o sole_n of_o the_o foot_n no_o soundness_n in_o it_o as_o the_o prophet_n say_v of_o another_o like_o it_o yet_o the_o vital_a part_n not_o perish_v 5._o ready_a to_o die_v yet_o not_o dead_a a_o true_a church_n though_o neither_o the_o catholic_n church_n nor_o yet_o a_o sound_a member_n of_o the_o same_o that_o also_o be_v false_a in_o the_o assumption_n that_o the_o puritan_n deny_v the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n unless_o the_o puritan_n and_o brownist_n be_v with_o you_o all_o one_o which_o you_o have_v make_v diverse_a sect_n above_o and_o then_o be_v you_o to_o blame_v as_o to_o multiply_v name_n whereof_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o before_o so_o now_o again_o to_o confound_v they_o what_o be_v now_o the_o conclusion_n it_o will_v be_v more_o safe_a and_o secure_a to_o become_v a_o roman_n catholic_n but_o the_o proposition_n will_v not_o infer_v thus_o much_o simple_o but_o only_o in_o this_o respect_n for_o topical_a argument_n as_o you_o know_v hold_v only_o caeteris_fw-la paribus_fw-la we_o must_v then_o inquire_v if_o there_o be_v no_o other_o intrinsical_a argument_n by_o which_o it_o may_v be_v discern_v whether_o cause_n be_v the_o better_a whether_o pretence_n to_o the_o church_n and_o truth_n more_o just_a more_o evident_a whether_o it_o may_v be_v warrant_v to_o return_v to_o babel_n because_o god_n have_v some_o people_n there_o when_o as_o he_o command_v those_o that_o be_v there_o to_o come_v out_o
calvinist_n and_o these_o with_o zwinglians_n who_o be_v of_o the_o first_o protestant_n and_o differ_v little_a or_o nothing_o from_o those_o who_o you_o call_v lutheran_n whereof_o this_o may_v be_v a_o sensible_a proof_n that_o common_o their_o adversary_n and_o yourself_o after_o call_v they_o by_o the_o same_o name_n the_o protestant_a church_n in_o germany_n france_n holland_n and_o geneva_n and_o pope_n leo_n the_o ten_o in_o his_o condemnatory_a bull_n and_o likewise_o charles_n the_o five_o in_o his_o imperial_a edict_n do_v reflect_v whole_o upon_o luther_n and_o his_o follower_n without_o any_o mention_n of_o the_o other_o at_o all_o to_o conclude_v this_o matter_n as_o it_o be_v undoubted_o a_o sign_n of_o a_o good_a mind_n to_o dislike_v contention_n and_o diversity_n of_o opinion_n and_o it_o may_v have_v pardon_n to_o apprehend_v sometime_o more_o than_o there_o be_v indeed_o like_v to_o the_o melancholic_a old_a man_n in_o the_o comedy_n who_o suspicion_n make_v he_o to_o multiply_v on_o this_o manner_n qui_fw-la mihi_fw-la intromisisti_fw-la in_o aedes_fw-la quingentos_fw-la coquos_fw-la so_o to_o muster_v up_o empty_a name_n without_o any_o real_a difference_n as_o puritan_n cartwrightist_n brownist_n to_o make_v difference_n in_o a_o few_o opinion_n about_o government_n or_o sacrament_n sect_n and_o contrariety_n have_v not_o the_o character_n of_o ingenuous_a and_o sincere_a deal_n which_o from_o you_o mr._n waddesworth_n i_o do_v and_o do_v expect_v but_o some_o of_o these_o damn_v each_o other_o avouch_v their_o position_n to_o be_v matter_n of_o faith_n not_o school_n question_n of_o opinion_n only_o here_o indeed_o there_o be_v fault_n on_o all_o side_n in_o this_o age_n that_o we_o can_v be_v content_a with_o the_o bound_n which_o the_o ancient_a church_n have_v set_v but_o every_o private_a opinion_n must_v be_v straightway_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n every_o decision_n of_o a_o pope_n every_o decree_n of_o a_o council_n and_o then_o as_o man_n be_v easy_o enamour_v of_o their_o own_o conceit_n and_o as_o gerson_n wise_o apply_v that_o of_o the_o poet_n qui_fw-fr amant_fw-fr sibi_fw-la somnia_fw-la fingunt_fw-la as_o if_o the_o very_a marrow_n of_o religion_n consist_v in_o those_o point_n those_o that_o think_v otherwise_o be_v heretic_n and_o in_o state_n of_o damnation_n the_o roman_a faction_n go_v further_a to_o fire_n and_o faggot_n and_o all_o exquisite_a torment_n as_o if_o those_o thing_n that_o make_v against_o the_o papacy_n be_v more_o severe_o to_o be_v punish_v than_o the_o blasphemy_n of_o the_o jew_n or_o mahometism_n itself_o i_o do_v not_o excuse_v the_o reformer_n of_o this_o bitterness_n wherein_o after_o your_o departure_n out_o of_o england_n my_o nameless_a adversary_n that_o undertake_v mr._n alablasters_n quarrel_n give_v i_o over_o in_o three_o of_o his_o demand_n run_v riot_n in_o the_o first_o about_o this_o point_n of_o opposition_n among_o ourselves_o and_o rake_v together_o all_o the_o vehement_a speech_n of_o luther_n and_o some_o of_o his_o follower_n against_o those_o who_o they_o call_v the_o sacramentary_n why_o who_o will_v undertake_v to_o defend_v luther_n speech_n or_o all_o that_o fall_v from_o contentious_a pen_n but_o even_o out_o of_o those_o testimony_n which_o himself_o bring_v for_o the_o worst_a that_o he_o can_v on_o the_o contrary_a part_n it_o appear_v this_o eagerness_n be_v not_o mutual_a and_o in_o truth_n both_o we_o in_o england_n and_o the_o helvetian_o and_o french_a do_v maintain_v a_o brotherly_a affection_n towards_o they_o of_o saxony_n how_o spiteful_o soever_o some_o of_o they_o write_v of_o we_o and_o even_o of_o those_o who_o he_o call_v lutheran_n as_o i_o perceive_v while_o i_o be_v at_o norimberg_n the_o moderator_n sort_n be_v alike_o affect_v towards_o we_o but_o as_o touch_v the_o avouch_v our_o opinion_n to_o be_v matter_n of_o faith_n which_o exception_n be_v common_a to_o you_o with_o he_o that_o which_o i_o shall_v have_v answer_v he_o if_o i_o have_v find_v in_o he_o any_o thing_n but_o spite_n and_o scorn_n i_o will_v say_v now_o to_o you_o very_o in_o some_o sort_n even_o the_o least_o conclusion_n in_o divinity_n be_v matter_n of_o faith_n for_o both_o faith_n have_v to_o do_v with_o they_o and_o they_o be_v fetch_v by_o discourse_n from_o the_o first_o principle_n hold_v by_o faith_n whence_o our_o whole_a religion_n be_v call_v by_o s._n jude_n the_o faith_n once_o deliver_v to_o the_o saint_n and_o the_o least_o error_n in_o they_o by_o consequence_n overthrow_v the_o same_o principle_n whence_o they_o be_v deduce_v that_o make_v some_o to_o move_v attention_n in_o their_o reader_n to_o say_v the_o question_n be_v not_o about_o small_a matter_n but_o of_o the_o principal_a article_n of_o religion_n even_o about_o the_o foundation_n as_o curaeus_n who_o he_o cite_v say_v the_o question_n be_v of_o two_o article_n of_o faith_n first_o of_o that_o which_o teach_v that_o in_o christ_n two_o nature_n be_v unite_v second_o of_o the_o article_n he_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n why_o do_v not_o both_o side_n agree_v to_o these_o yes_o but_o one_o side_n fetch_v argument_n against_o ubiquity_n from_o these_o place_n and_o thereupon_o say_v the_o question_n be_v about_o these_o article_n perhaps_o also_o charge_v the_o other_o to_o deny_v they_o he_o cite_v pappus_n write_v thus_o agitur_fw-la inter_fw-la nos_fw-la de_fw-la omnipotentia_fw-la dei_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o controversy_n betwixt_o we_o be_v about_o the_o omnipotency_n of_o god_n the_o personal_a union_n of_o the_o two_o nature_n in_o christ._n the_o communication_n of_o property_n the_o glorious_a body_n of_o our_o saviour_n etc._n etc._n lo_o again_o every_o place_n of_o argument_n or_o defence_n be_v make_v the_o matter_n of_o controversy_n out_o of_o these_o and_o such_o like_a confession_n on_o either_o side_n my_o nameless_a adversary_n will_v needs_o enforce_v with_o great_a pomp_n and_o triumph_n what_o think_v you_o that_o such_o sanctify_a man_n this_o be_v his_o scoff_a language_n go_v not_o together_o by_o the_o ear_n for_o moonshine_n in_o the_o water_n again_o that_o all_o those_o myrmidonian_a fight_v and_o bloody_a encounter_n be_v not_o de_fw-mi lanâ_fw-la caprinâ_fw-la aut_fw-la de_fw-la umbrâ_fw-la asini._n why_o who_o say_v they_o be_v i_o will_v set_v down_o here_o my_o word_n that_o you_o may_v judge_v of_o the_o conscience_n of_o this_o man_n and_o have_v withal_o the_o substance_n of_o my_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n and_o what_o if_o some_o outrageous_a spirit_n on_o each_o side_n transport_v with_o passion_n in_o their_o opposition_n have_v use_v most_o bitter_a and_o unbeseeming_a speech_n to_o their_o adversary_n and_o sometime_o have_v show_v each_o other_o small_a humanity_n be_v you_o so_o simple_a as_o not_o to_o discern_v between_o the_o choler_n of_o some_o few_o opinionate_a man_n and_o the_o consequence_n of_o their_o opinion_n have_v you_o forget_v s._n hierome_n and_o ruffinus_n deadly_a fo-hood_n which_o be_v ring_v over_o the_o world_n or_o epiphanius_n and_o chrysostom_n or_o victor_n and_o the_o greek_a bishop_n which_o proceed_v so_o far_o about_o a_o trifle_n that_o he_o excommunicate_v they_o which_o be_v little_o less_o i_o think_v than_o to_o condemn_v to_o the_o pit_n of_o hell_n and_o yet_o if_o i_o shall_v put_v it_o to_o your_o judgement_n i_o be_o persuade_v you_o will_v grant_v they_o hold_v all_o truth_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n for_o you_o must_v remember_v pope_n boniface_n have_v not_o yet_o coin_a the_o new_a article_n of_o the_o faith_n that_o i_o mention_v before_o what_o shall_v i_o speak_v of_o s._n paul_n and_o barnabas_n which_o grow_v to_o such_o bitterness_n and_o that_o about_o a_o very_a little_a question_n of_o conveniency_n that_o though_o they_o be_v send_v out_o together_o by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n they_o break_v off_o company_n these_o be_v humane_a passion_n which_o wisdom_n will_v we_o shall_v pity_v when_o they_o grow_v to_o such_o extremity_n upon_o so_o small_a cause_n rather_o than_o from_o their_o outrage_n to_o gather_v there_o be_v just_a cause_n to_o increase_v do_v we_o not_o see_v that_o even_o natural_a brethren_n do_v sometime_o defy_v one_o another_o and_o use_v each_o other_o with_o less_o respect_n than_o stranger_n now_o from_o hence_o will_v you_o conclude_v they_o be_v not_o brethren_n and_o hearten_v they_o on_o and_o say_v to_o the_o one_o that_o since_o his_o half_a brother_n be_v not_o so_o near_o to_o he_o as_o he_o with_o who_o he_o be_v thus_o at_o odds_o he_o must_v fall_v out_o worse_o with_o he_o you_o shall_v well_o so_o deserve_v the_o hate_n of_o god_n for_o a_o makebate_n between_o brethren_n these_o be_v all_o my_o word_n set_v down_o in_o answer_n to_o his_o object_v our_o own_o contention_n and_o condemn_v each_o other_o to_o prove_v that_o therefore_o we_o can_v not_o hold_v continuity_n with_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o england_n
that_o the_o inscription_n pav5l_o l50o_v v5._z v5i_n i1c_n c100e-d_a e-d500eo_n contain_v exact_o in_o the_o numeral_a letter_n the_o number_n of_o the_o beast_n in_o the_o revelation_n 666._o what_o anger_n and_o shame_v this_o be_v to_o the_o popish_a faction_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o you_o to_o esteem_v but_o who_o can_v they_o blame_v but_o themselves_o who_o have_v suffer_v so_o presumptuous_a and_o shameless_a a_o flattery_n to_o come_v forth_o with_o public_a approbation_n annex_v also_o so_o blasphemous_a a_o inscription_n as_o unaware_o to_o they_o by_o the_o providence_n of_o god_n shall_v so_o plain_o characterise_v antichrist_n but_o to_o heal_v up_o this_o matter_n again_o not_o long_o after_o we_o have_v fresh_a news_n go_v about_o that_o antichrist_n be_v bear_v in_o babylon_n have_v do_v many_o miracle_n be_v come_v towards_o christendom_n with_o a_o army_n we_o have_v a_o epistle_n stamp_v at_o venice_n pretend_v to_o be_v write_v at_o rome_n an._n 1592._o by_o the_o river_n d._n valentinus_n granarensis_fw-la touch_v the_o birth_n of_o antichrist_n his_o stock_n progeny_n country_n habitation_n power_n marvel_n life_n and_o death_n out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o father_n print_v cum_fw-la privilegio_fw-la and_o as_o for_o the_o title_n vice-deus_a as_o if_o they_o will_v have_v it_o in_o despite_n of_o all_o man_n one_o benedictus_fw-la à _fw-la benedictis_fw-la a_o subject_a of_o the_o venetian_a state_n set_v out_o a_o book_n against_o doctor_n whitakâ—rs_n position_n de_fw-fr antichristo_fw-la at_o bologna_n for_o at_o venice_n it_o be_v not_o suffer_v to_o be_v print_v revive_v it_o with_o advantage_n he_o dedicate_v it_o thus_o paulo_n quinto_fw-la pontifici_fw-la vniversalis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la oecumenico_fw-la summo_fw-la totius_fw-la orbis_n episcopo_fw-la atque_fw-la monarchae_n &_o supremo_fw-la vice-deo_a these_o title_n he_o heap_n upon_o the_o pope_n again_o and_o again_o and_o that_o you_o may_v judge_v of_o his_o wit_n by_o one_o place_n in_o the_o conclusion_n exhort_v dr._n whitaker_n to_o repentance_n he_o tell_v he_o that_o by_o his_o example_n his_o king_n and_o with_o the_o same_o king_n james_n the_o first_o many_z englishmen_z convertentur_fw-la ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la deum_fw-la &_o ipsius_fw-la loco_fw-la ad_fw-la vice-deum_a confugient_fw-la and_o p._n 135._o he_o say_v of_o grègory_n the_o great_a totum_fw-la mundum_fw-la quasi_fw-la monarcha_fw-la ac_fw-la vice-deus_a optimè_fw-la &_o irreprehensibiliter_fw-la rexit_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o may_v have_v learn_v of_o he_o that_o his_o other_o title_n oecumenicus_fw-la pontifex_fw-la be_v the_o very_a name_n of_o antichrist_n the_o name_n of_o blasphemy_n by_o which_o he_o doubt_v not_o to_o presage_v that_o antichrist_n be_v near_o and_o a_o army_n of_o priest_n ready_a to_o attend_v he_o in_o this_o if_o ever_o in_o any_o thing_n it_o seem_v your_o judge_n be_v infallible_a it_o will_v be_v say_v here_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o pope_n power_n what_o his_o follower_n will_v say_v of_o he_o he_o style_v himself_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n servant_n if_o the_o canonist_n will_v call_v he_o 5._o our_o lord_n god_n the_o pope_n first_o it_o may_v be_v deny_v second_o it_o may_v be_v lay_v to_o the_o oversight_n of_o the_o writer_n or_o printer_n three_o if_o it_o be_v show_v to_o be_v leave_v stand_v still_o in_o the_o gloss_n of_o the_o canon_n law_n by_o they_o that_o be_v appoint_v to_o oversee_v and_o correct_v it_o what_o marvel_v if_o one_o word_n escape_v they_o through_o negligence_n or_o weariness_n or_o much_o business_n and_o yet_o if_o they_o think_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n not_o so_o usual_a indeed_o in_o the_o ordinary_a talk_n of_o christian_n but_o not_o differ_v from_o the_o custom_n of_o scripture_n be_v to_o be_v allow_v to_o a_o ancient_a writer_n the_o matter_n deserve_v not_o such_o outcries_a but_o the_o pope_n such_o be_v his_o modesty_n never_o usurp_v this_o title_n full_a of_o arrogancy_n never_o hear_v it_o with_o patient_a ear_n to_o this_o let_v it_o first_o be_v consider_v that_o the_o censor_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o come_v to_o the_o press_n be_v not_o to_o be_v imagine_v such_o babe_n as_o not_o to_o know_v what_o will_v please_v or_o displease_v his_o holiness_n especial_o in_o write_n dedicate_v to_o himself_o a_o man_n may_v be_v sure_a they_o will_v allow_v nothing_o the_o second_o time_n and_o after_o some_o exception_n and_o scandal_n take_v at_o it_o but_o what_o shall_v be_v justify_v how_o much_o more_o in_o the_o pope_n own_o town_n of_o bologna_n and_o when_o his_o chaplain_n can_v not_o be_v allow_v to_o print_v it_o at_o home_n but_o to_o let_v all_o these_o go_v we_o may_v have_v a_o more_o sensible_a proof_n how_o the_o pope_n taste_v these_o title_n that_o which_o he_o reward_v he_o approve_v benedictus_n be_v short_o after_o make_v for_o his_o pain_n bishop_n of_o caorli_n how_o worthy_o he_o deserve_v it_o you_o shall_v judge_v by_o his_o book_n which_o at_o my_o request_n vouchsafe_v to_o read_v over_o and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o merit_n you_o shall_v sure_o get_v great_a meed_n of_o patience_n in_o so_o do_v that_o you_o may_v not_o doubt_v of_o the_o pope_n judgement_n concern_v these_o title_n you_o shall_v further_o know_v that_o the_o matter_n be_v come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o protestant_n in_o france_n and_o england_n make_v they_o talk_v and_o write_v of_o it_o broad_o namely_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n in_o his_o mysterium_fw-la iniquitatis_fw-la and_o the_o bishop_n of_o chichester_n in_o his_o tortura_fw-la torti_n this_o give_v occasion_n to_o the_o cardinal_n gieurè_n to_o relate_v in_o the_o officio_fw-la santo_n at_o rome_n of_o the_o scandal_n take_v hereat_o and_o to_o make_v a_o motion_n de_fw-fr moderandis_fw-la titulis_fw-la it_o be_v on_o foot_n sundry_a month_n at_o last_o the_o pope_n revoke_v it_o to_o himself_o blame_v those_o that_o have_v speak_v against_o these_o title_n and_o say_v they_o be_v no_o whit_n great_a than_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n peter_n be_v successor_n do_v bear_v to_o return_v thither_o whence_o i_o have_v a_o little_a digress_v in_o the_o question_n whether_o the_o pope_n be_v the_o antichrist_n or_o no_o for_o my_o part_n i_o despair_v of_o all_o reconciliation_n for_o neither_o do_v there_o appear_v any_o inclination_n at_o all_o in_o the_o pope_n to_o reform_v any_o thing_n in_o doctrine_n or_o government_n nay_o he_o encroach_v daily_o more_o and_o more_o upon_o all_o degree_n even_o among_o his_o own_o subject_n and_o resolve_v to_o carry_v all_o before_o he_o at_o the_o breast_n with_o his_o monarchy_n and_o infallibility_n on_o the_o other_o side_n the_o reformer_n partly_o embolden_v with_o success_n partly_o enforce_v by_o necessity_n chief_o tie_v with_o band_n of_o conscience_n and_o persuasion_n of_o truth_n be_v not_o like_a to_o retract_v what_o they_o have_v affirm_v in_o this_o behalf_n and_o whatsoever_o their_o difference_n be_v in_o other_o thing_n in_o this_o point_n they_o have_v a_o marvellous_a unity_n among_o they_o those_o in_o france_n have_v be_v molest_v for_o call_v the_o pope_n antichrist_n have_v be_v occasion_v as_o i_o have_v hear_v some_o few_o year_n since_o to_o take_v it_o into_o their_o confession_n thereby_o to_o justify_v themselves_o according_a to_o the_o edict_n of_o pacification_n give_v they_o liberty_n to_o profess_v their_o religion_n in_o england_n as_o you_o know_v it_o be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n yet_o a_o common_o receive_v opinion_n howbeit_o this_o be_v so_o far_o from_o hinder_v that_o the_o reform_a church_n and_o those_o which_o heretofore_o be_v or_o at_o this_o present_a be_v under_o the_o pope_n obedience_n be_v one_o church_n that_o be_v all_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_n that_o the_o protestant_n without_o this_o can_v make_v good_a the_o other_o for_o antichrist_n must_v sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n as_o chrysostome_n and_o theophylact_fw-mi interpret_v it_o and_o god_n people_n can_v not_o be_v command_v to_o go_v out_o of_o babel_n if_o he_o have_v none_o there_o chap._n v._o of_o the_o safeness_n to_o join_v to_o the_o roman_a be_v confess_v a_o true_a church_n by_o her_o opposite_n but_o you_o conclude_v hence_o that_o see_v many_o of_o the_o best_a learned_a protestant_n do_v grant_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n though_o faulty_a in_o some_o thing_n and_o contrary_o not_o only_a the_o romanist_n but_o puritan_n anabaptist_n and_o brownist_n deny_v the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o be_v so_o therefore_o it_o will_v be_v more_o safe_a and_o secure_a to_o become_v a_o roman_n catholic_n etc._n etc._n this_o discourse_n have_v a_o pretty_a show_n at_o the_o first_o blush_n and_o perhaps_o be_v use_v to_o you_o since_o your_o come_n into_o spain_n as_o it_o be_v to_o some_o there_o before_o at_o
as_o bellarmine_n himself_o will_v teach_v you_o lib._n de_fw-fr clericis_fw-la cap._n 3._o for_o among_o the_o lutheran_n and_o calvinist_n also_o say_v he_o which_o have_v take_v away_o almost_o all_o ecclesiastical_a rite_n they_o only_o lie_v on_o hand_n and_o make_v pastor_n and_o minister_n who_o though_o they_o be_v not_o pastor_n and_o bishop_n indeed_o will_v be_v so_o account_v and_o call_v in_o england_n you_o miss_v first_o the_o lesser_a order_n and_o say_v we_o be_v make_v minister_n per_fw-la saltum_fw-la as_o if_o all_o that_o be_v make_v priest_n among_o you_o be_v psalmist_n sexton_n reader_n exorcist_n torchbearer_n subdeacons_n and_o deacon_n before_o remember_v i_o pray_v what_o the_o master_n of_o the_o sentence_n say_v of_o deaconship_n and_o priesthood_n hos_fw-la solos_fw-la primitiva_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la legitur_fw-la habuisse_fw-la &_o the_o his_o solis_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la apostoli_fw-la habemus_fw-la he_o mean_v in_o the_o epistle_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n again_o subdiaconos_fw-la vero_fw-la &_o acolâ—thos_n procâ—donte_fw-fr tempore_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sibi_fw-la constituit_fw-la what_o and_o be_v the_o primitive_a and_o apostolic_a church_n no_o true_a church_n or_o need_v we_o to_o be_v ashamed_a to_o be_v like_o they_o beside_o those_o council_n that_o you_o speak_v of_o it_o shall_v seem_v be_v of_o no_o great_a either_o antiquity_n or_o authority_n when_o not_o only_a presbyter_n without_o pasâ—â—â—g_v through_o any_o order_n but_o bishop_n without_o be_v so_o much_o as_o baptize_v be_v ordain_v as_o nectarius_n of_o constantinople_n synesius_n of_o cyrene_n ambrose_n of_o milan_n constantine_n ii_o of_o rome_n itself_o this_o therefore_o be_v a_o very_a slight_a exception_n your_o next_o be_v well_o worse_o touch_v the_o ordination_n at_o the_o nagshead_n where_o the_o consecration_n of_o our_o first_o bishop_n as_o you_o say_v be_v attempt_v but_o not_o effect_v it_o be_v certain_a you_o say_v and_o you_o be_v sure_a there_o be_v such_o a_o matter_n although_o you_o know_v and_o have_v see_v the_o record_n themselves_o that_o afterward_o there_o be_v a_o consecration_n of_o doctor_n parker_n at_o lambeth_n alas_o master_n waddesworth_n if_o you_o be_v resolve_v to_o believe_v lie_n not_o only_o against_o public_a act_n and_o your_o own_o eye_n sight_n but_o against_o all_o probability_n who_o can_v help_v it_o i_o have_v well_o hope_v to_o have_v find_v that_o ingenuity_n in_o you_o that_o i_o may_v have_v use_v your_o testimony_n unto_o other_o of_o that_o side_n touch_v the_o vanity_n of_o this_o fable_n as_o have_v show_v you_o the_o copy_n of_o the_o record_n of_o doctor_n parker_n consecration_n which_o i_o have_v procure_v to_o be_v transcribe_v out_o of_o the_o act_n which_o yourself_o also_o at_o your_o return_n from_o london_n tell_v i_o you_o see_v in_o a_o black_a book_n now_o i_o perceive_v by_o your_o perplex_a write_v and_o enterline_v in_o this_o part_n of_o your_o letter_n you_o will_v fain_o discharge_v your_o conscience_n and_o yet_o uphold_v this_o lie_n perhaps_o as_o loath_a to_o offend_v that_o side_n where_o you_o now_o be_v and_o therefore_o you_o have_v devise_v this_o temper_n that_o the_o one_o be_v attempt_v the_o other_o effect_v but_o it_o â—ill_v not_o be_v for_o first_o of_o all_o if_o that_o at_o the_o 〈◊〉_d head_n be_v but_o attempt_v what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o purpose_n of_o our_o ordination_n which_o be_v not_o derive_v from_o it_o but_o from_o the_o other_o which_o as_o you_o say_v be_v effect_v at_o lambeth_n and_o be_v you_o sure_o there_o be_v such_o a_o matter_n how_o be_v you_o sure_a be_v you_o present_v there_o in_o person_n or_o have_v you_o hear_v it_o of_o those_o that_o be_v present_a neither_o of_o both_o i_o suppose_v but_o if_o it_o be_v so_o that_o some_o body_n pretend_v to_o have_v be_v there_o present_a tell_v you_o so_o much_o how_o be_v you_o sure_a that_o he_o lie_v not_o in_o say_v so_o much_o more_o when_o you_o have_v it_o but_o at_o the_o three_o or_o four_o hand_n perhaps_o the_o thirty_o or_o forty_o but_o consider_v a_o little_a be_v it_o probable_a that_o man_n of_o that_o sort_n in_o a_o action_n of_o that_o importance_n and_o at_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o queen_n reign_n when_o especial_o it_o concern_v both_o they_o and_o she_o to_o provide_v that_o all_o thing_n shall_v be_v do_v with_o reputation_n will_v be_v so_o hasty_a and_o heedless_a as_o to_o take_v a_o tavern_n for_o a_o church_n why_o may_v they_o not_o have_v go_v to_o the_o next_o church_n as_o well_o they_o think_v to_o make_v the_o old_a catholic_n bishop_n drunken_a thus_o the_o wisbich_n and_o framyngham_n priest_n be_v wont_a to_o tell_v the_o tale_n be_v it_o likely_a that_o they_o will_v not_o forethink_v that_o possible_a this_o good_a old_a man_n will_v not_o drink_v so_o free_o as_o to_o be_v drunken_a and_o if_o he_o be_v yet_o will_v not_o be_v in_o the_o humour_n to_o do_v as_o they_o will_v have_v he_o for_o who_o can_v make_v any_o foundation_n upon_o what_o another_o will_v do_v in_o his_o cup_n what_o a_o scorn_n will_v this_o be_v to_o they_o man_n be_v not_o always_o so_o provident_a in_o their_o action_n true_o but_o such_o man_n be_v not_o to_o be_v imagine_v so_o sottish_a as_o to_o attempt_v so_o solemn_a a_o action_n and_o join_v common_o with_o some_o great_a feast_n and_o as_o you_o observe_v well_o out_o of_o the_o act_n with_o the_o queen_n mandate_n for_o the_o action_n to_o be_v do_v and_o hang_v all_o upon_o a_o drunken_a fit_n of_o a_o old_a man_n beside_o how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o we_o can_v never_o understand_v the_o name_n of_o the_o old_a bishop_n or_o of_o those_o who_o he_o shall_v have_v consecrate_v or_o which_o consecrate_v themselves_o when_o he_o refuse_v to_o do_v it_o for_o so_o do_v your_o man_n give_v it_o out_o howsoever_o you_o say_v it_o be_v not_o there_o effect_v and_o in_o all_o the_o space_n of_o queen_n elizabeth_n reign_n wherein_o so_o many_o set_v themselves_o against_o the_o reformation_n by_o she_o establish_v be_v it_o possible_a we_o shall_v never_o have_v hear_v word_n of_o it_o of_o all_o the_o english_a on_o that_o side_n the_o sea_n if_o it_o have_v be_v any_o other_o than_o a_o fly_a tale_n after_o forty_o five_o year_n there_o be_v find_v at_o last_o a_o irish_a jesuit_n that_o dare_v put_v it_o in_o print_n dubliniensis_n to_o prove_v by_o it_o as_o now_o you_o do_v that_o the_o parliamentary_a pastor_n lack_v holy_a order_n but_o he_o relate_v sundry_a particular_n and_o bring_v his_o proof_n for_o the_o purpose_n this_o ordainer_n or_o consecrater_n he_o say_v be_v laudasensis_fw-la episcopus_fw-la homo_fw-la senex_fw-la &_o simplex_fw-la his_o name_n nay_o that_o you_o must_v pardon_v he_o but_o of_o what_o city_n or_o diocese_n be_v he_o bishop_n for_o we_o have_v none_o of_o that_o title_n here_o i_o think_v once_o that_o by_o error_n it_o have_v be_v put_v for_o landaffensis_fw-la of_o landaffe_n in_o wales_n save_o that_o three_o time_n in_o that_o narration_n it_o be_v write_v laudasensis_n which_o notwithstanding_o i_o continue_v to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n because_o i_o find_v bishop_n bonner_n name_n twice_o alike_o false_a write_v bomerus_n but_o lo_o in_o the_o margin_n a_o direction_n to_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr schismate_fw-la fol._n 166._o where_o he_o say_v this_o matter_n be_v touch_v and_o it_o be_v direct_o affirm_v that_o they_o perform_v the_o office_n of_o bishop_n without_o any_o episcopal_a consecration_n again_o that_o great_a labour_n be_v use_v without_o a_o irish_a archbishop_n in_o prison_n at_o london_n to_o ordain_v they_o but_o he_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v bring_v thereto_o so_o it_o seem_v we_o must_v pass_v out_o of_o wales_n into_o ireland_n to_o find_v the_o see_v of_o this_o bishop_n or_o archbishop_n but_o i_o believe_v we_o may_v sail_v from_o thence_o to_o virginia_n to_o seek_v he_o for_o in_o ireland_n we_o shall_v not_o find_v he_o let_v we_o come_v to_o those_o that_o he_o shall_v have_v ordain_v what_o be_v their_o name_n candidati_fw-la if_o that_o will_v content_v you_o more_o you_o get_v not_o why_o they_o may_v have_v be_v remember_v as_o well_o as_o the_o nagshead_n as_o well_o as_o bonner_n name_n and_o his_o see_v and_o that_o he_o be_v dean_n of_o the_o bishop_n he_o mean_v of_o the_o archbishopric_n seed_n vacant_a and_o that_o he_o send_v his_o chaplain_n his_o name_n also_o be_v unknown_a to_o forbid_v the_o ordination_n at_o least_o their_o see_z to_o cut_v the_o matter_n short_a quid_fw-la plura_fw-la scoraeus_fw-la monachus_n post_fw-la herefordensis_fw-la pseudo-episcopus_a caeteris_fw-la ex_fw-la caeteris_fw-la quidam_fw-la scoraeo_n manus_fw-la imponunt_fw-la fiuntque_fw-la sine_fw-la patre_fw-la silij_fw-la &_o pater_fw-la à _fw-la filiis_fw-la procreatur_fw-la res_fw-la seculis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la