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A00166 A defence of Nicholas Smith against a reply to his discussion of some pointes taught by Mr. Doctour Kellison in his Treatise of the ecclesiasticall hierarchy. By A.B. A. B.; Wilson, M., attributed author. 1631 (1631) STC 1017; ESTC S115849 45,068 102

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place_n by_o make_v my_o lord_n not_o bishop_n of_o the_o country_n but_o only_o give_v he_o authority_n refer_v to_o the_o person_n ordinary_n have_v jurisdiction_n in_o respect_n both_o of_o place_n and_o person_n catholic_n and_o heretic_n and_o therefore_o in_o they_o extent_n of_o place_n be_v much_o more_o considerable_a last_o although_o it_o be_v grant_v as_o a_o thing_n not_o make_v much_o for_o our_o present_a purpose_n that_o the_o extent_n of_o place_n in_o england_n be_v much_o considerable_a thence_o at_o the_o most_o can_v be_v infer_v that_o england_n be_v capable_a of_o a_o bishop_n not_o that_o it_o must_v of_o necessity_n have_v one_o which_o be_v our_o only_a question_n as_o there_o be_v some_o diocese_n for_o extent_n of_o place_n well_o capable_a of_o too_o or_o more_o bishop_n and_o yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o of_o necessity_n they_o must_v have_v too_o or_o more_o if_o by_o one_o they_o can_v be_v sufficient_o govern_v yea_o there_o be_v diverse_a place_n capable_a of_o one_o or_o more_o bishop_n who_o have_v no_o bishop_n at_o all_o but_o be_v govern_v by_o other_o superior_n 10._o likewise_o the_o replyer_n n._n 9_o about_o this_o point_n cit_v the_o word_n of_o the_o discussour_n n._n 7._o very_o imperfect_o in_o this_o manner_n to_o affirm_v that_o one_o diocese_n or_o city_n be_v a_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o thing_n which_o no_o divine_a yea_o no_o man_n of_o judgement_n will_v say_v the_o word_n entire_o cite_v be_v these_o to_o affirm_v that_o one_o diocese_n or_o city_n or_o indeed_o not_o so_o much_o as_o one_o diocese_n or_o city_n be_v a_o great_a or_o notable_a part_n of_o that_o church_n which_o reach_v as_o far_o as_o the_o rise_n and_o set_v of_o the_o sun_n and_o that_o it_o must_v therefore_o jure_fw-la divino_fw-la by_o the_o divine_a law_n have_v a_o bishop_n so_o as_o no_o cause_n can_v excuse_v the_o want_n of_o one_o be_v a_o thing_n which_o no_o divine_a etc._n etc._n this_o say_n of_o nicolas_n smith_n be_v so_o evident_a as_o no_o man_n can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v true_a and_o yet_o for_o this_o speech_n he_o be_v deep_o charge_v by_o the_o inquisitor_n and_o replyer_n of_o great_a immodesty_n beside_o nicolas_n smith_n never_o say_v d_o m._n doctor_n affirm_v all_o this_o but_o only_o by_o good_a consequence_n he_o show_v that_o this_o and_o diverse_a other_o hard_a conclusion_n must_v follow_v out_o of_o his_o principle_n 11._o what_o he_o cit_v n._n 14._o out_o of_o the_o regulars_n answer_v to_o my_o lord_n of_o calcedon_n letter_n be_v by_o he_o odious_o force_v to_o a_o sense_n by_o the_o neither_o mean_v nor_o write_v it_o be_v clear_a they_o speak_v not_o of_o episcopal_a authority_n in_o general_a but_o of_o a_o bishop_n in_o these_o time_n with_o power_n of_o ordinary_a in_o foro_fw-la externo_fw-la coactive_a to_o erect_v a_o tribunal_n etc._n etc._n which_o they_o say_v will_v in_o these_o time_n prove_v pernitions_a to_o soul_n etc._n etc._n as_o m._n doctor_n chap._n 15._o confess_v my_o lord_n of_o chalcedon_n to_o say_v that_o such_o a_o tribunal_n be_v not_o suitable_a to_o these_o time_n preach_v be_v a_o holy_a thing_n and_o as_o ancient_a as_o our_o saviour_n christ_n yet_o to_o do_v it_o public_o in_o these_o time_n may_v be_v call_v a_o novelty_n and_o pernicious_a to_o catholic_n 12._o in_o more_o than_o three_o whole_a leaf_n from_o n._n 16._o he_o labour_v to_o make_v good_a that_o sotus_n favour_v m._n doctor_n all_o his_o discourse_n be_v reduce_v to_o this_o when_o sotus_n teach_v it_o to_o be_v of_o divine_a law_n that_o in_o general_a to_o every_o church_n according_a to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a division_n proper_a bishop_n be_v to_o be_v apply_v those_o word_n in_o general_a be_v to_o be_v interpret_v as_o if_o one_o shall_v say_v christ_n in_o general_n have_v ordain_v that_o every_o man_n shall_v be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o by_o our_o saviour_n command_n every_o particular_a man_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v the_o discussour_n interprete_v sotus_n by_o the_o word_n ingenerall_n to_o mean_v indeterminat_o of_o some_o diocese_n according_a as_o particular_a circumstance_n of_o person_n time_n and_o place_n shall_v require_v &_o not_o that_o sotus_n do_v teach_v a_o absolute_a precept_n of_o place_v bishop_n in_o every_o determinate_a particular_a diocese_n this_o interpretation_n be_v gather_v out_o of_o sotus_n his_o whole_a drift_n which_o be_v to_o prove_v afterward_o against_o catharines_n that_o the_o residence_n of_o bishop_n be_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la divino_fw-la of_o the_o divine_a law_n and_o also_o out_o of_o his_o word_n cite_v by_o the_o replyer_n n._n 22._o that_o the_o bishop_n must_v adsalutem_fw-la gregis_fw-la oculate_a attendere_fw-la look_v as_o it_o be_v with_o his_o eye_n to_o the_o good_a of_o his_o flock_n &_o propter_fw-la peculiarem_fw-la curam_fw-la &_o vigilantiam_fw-la for_o the_o peculiar_a care_n and_o vigilancy_n necessary_a to_o his_o church_n all_o which_o demonstrate_v sotus_n his_o meaning_n only_o to_o be_v that_o bishop_n by_o the_o divine_a law_n must_v be_v so_o apply_v to_o particular_a church_n as_o may_v suffice_v for_o the_o good_a government_n of_o the_o same_o but_o not_o so_o absolute_o that_o when_o they_o may_v be_v otherwise_o provide_v for_o every_o diocese_n must_v of_o necessity_n have_v its_o bishop_n which_o sotus_n know_v well_o to_o be_v against_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n wherein_o diverse_a territorye_n as_o great_a as_o diocese_n be_v exempt_a from_o all_o particular_a bishop_n as_o sotus_n teach_v that_o bishop_n must_v be_v apply_v to_o particular_a diocese_n so_o he_o teach_v that_o parish_n priest_n must_v be_v apply_v to_o particular_a parish_n as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the_o word_n cite_v by_o the_o replyer_n &_o it_o be_v strange_a that_o sotus_n shall_v therefore_o be_v allege_v to_o hold_v it_o a_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o parish_n have_v its_o parish_n priest_n if_o otherwise_o it_o be_v sufficient_o provide_v sotus_n then_o must_v be_v understand_v only_o indeterminate_o that_o some_o diocese_n must_v have_v their_o bishop_n because_o otherwise_o they_o can_v be_v sufficient_o govern_v but_o not_o absolute_o that_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n each_o one_o must_v have_v its_o bishop_n although_o otherwise_o it_o can_v be_v furnish_v with_o all_o necessarye_n and_o this_o in_o effect_n be_v no_o more_o than_o we_o say_v in_o this_o question_n n._n 1._o and_o evince_v the_o no_o necessity_n of_o a_o bishop_n in_o england_n by_o the_o divine_a law_n if_o without_o a_o bishop_n we_o can_v be_v sufficient_o provide_v for_o according_a to_o this_o true_a meaning_n of_o sotus_n it_o follow_v not_o as_o the_o replyer_n think_v sotus_n teach_v that_o there_o must_v be_v a_o bishop_n in_o every_o particular_a diocese_n ergo_fw-la much_o more_fw-it in_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n because_o if_o a_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n can_v be_v otherwise_o well_o govern_v it_o will_v no_o more_o according_a to_o sotus_n require_v a_o bishop_n than_o a_o particular_a diocese_n yea_o there_o may_v happen_v to_o be_v a_o great_a obligation_n of_o place_v a_o bishop_n in_o some_o particular_a diocese_n then_o in_o a_o great_a country_n where_o the_o bishop_n can_v perform_v his_o office_n or_o can_v come_v without_o great_a damage_n to_o catholic_n which_o be_v consideration_n depend_v whole_o upon_o particular_a circumstance_n and_o not_o to_o be_v determine_v by_o general_a notion_n of_o great_a or_o less_o extent_n of_o place_n beside_o m._n doctor_n allege_v sotus_n absolute_o now_o the_o replyer_n have_v recourse_n to_o inference_n if_o sotus_n mean_v as_o the_o replyer_n will_v have_v he_o that_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n the_o pope_n must_v apply_v a_o particular_a bishop_n to_o every_o diocese_n or_o rather_o to_o every_o place_n capable_a to_o be_v a_o diocese_n the_o doctrine_n be_v not_o true_a in_o itself_o and_o be_v against_o the_o replier_n pag._n 30._o n._n 12._o who_o grant_v that_o the_o pope_n may_v govern_v some_o little_a province_n otherwise_o then_o by_o a_o bishop_n as_o we_o see_v frequent_o practise_v in_o territorye_n of_o good_a extent_n it_o be_v then_o a_o hard_a shift_n out_o of_o a_o doctrine_n not_o true_a by_o inference_n to_o prove_v a_o point_n so_o prejudicial_a to_o catholic_n as_o m._n doctor_n conclusion_n be_v at_o least_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o sotus_n his_o word_n by_o this_o diversity_n of_o interpretation_n appear_v to_o be_v obscure_a and_o therefore_o can_v yield_v but_o uncertain_a relief_n to_o m._n doctor_n hard_a assertion_n 13._o concern_v bannez_fw-fr see_v the_o discussour_n n._n 11._o who_o true_o affirm_v that_o he_o make_v nothing_o for_o m._n doctor_n when_o he_o teach_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v remove_v bishop_n from_o a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n