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A48816 Considerations touching the true way to suppress popery in this kingdom by making a distinction between men of loyal and disloyal principles in that communion : on occasion whereof is inserted an historical account of the Reformation here in England. Lloyd, William, 1627-1717. 1677 (1677) Wing L2676; ESTC R2677 104,213 180

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equivocal_a word_n improper_o papist_n papist_n r._n c._n i._n e._n ricardus_n chalcedonensis_n alias_o dr._n smith_n the_o last_o roman_n catholic_n bishop_n that_o pretend_a jurisdiction_n here_o in_o england_n be_v of_o this_o mind_n as_o appear_v by_o his_o book_n against_o the_o bishop_n of_o derry_n entitle_v a_o brief_a survey_n etc._n etc._n vid._n cap._n 5._o p._n 55._o where_o he_o say_v it_o be_v no_o point_n of_o faith_n whether_o the_o pope_n be_v st._n peter_n succeffor_a jur●_n divino_fw-la or_o humano_fw-la half-papists_a throrough-papists_a their_o description_n zenzelini_fw-la glossa_fw-la dominus_fw-la deus_fw-la noster_fw-la papa_n vid._n glos._n extravag_n cum_fw-la inter_fw-la de_fw-la verb._n signif_n edit_fw-la paris_n an._n 1585._o the_o main_a argument_n undistinguish_v severity_n be_v not_o the_o way_n to_o suppress_v popery_n it_o will_v be_v ineffectual_a 2._o it_o will_v not_o seem_v just_a and_o equitable_a it_o be_v so_o express_o provide_v in_o 27_o eliz._n for_o fthe_a oath_n of_o supremacy_n and_o 3_o jac._n for_o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n justitia_fw-la britannica_fw-la 8_o o._n lond._n 1584._o and_o k._n james_n work_v p._n 252._o &_o 336._o and_o k._n charles_n i._o vol._n 1._o p._n 384._o 384._o 1666_o jun._n 11._o v._n hist._n of_o irish_a remonstrance_n part_v 2._o page_n 671._o 671._o date_v 1533._o aug._n 30._o camden_n eliz._n a_o 1592._o ibid._n a_o 1602._o pag._n 276._o 276._o he_o write_v his_o book_n in_o the_o name_n of_o widdrington_n the_o pope_n and_o his_o party_n be_v against_o the_o distinguish_n of_o roman_a catholic_n catholic_n pref._n of_o his_o book_n against_o fitz_n herbert_n the_o jesuit_n jesuit_n father_n fitz_n herbert_n hist._n of_o the_o irish_a remon_n part_n 1._o p._n 515._o two_o way_n useful_a to_o the_o pope_n design_n against_o england_n i._o a_o undistinguish_a execution_n of_o the_o law_n against_o popery_n ii_o toleration_n toleration_n be_v a_o way_n to_o destroy_v the_o establish_a religion_n toleration_n will_v weaken_v the_o civil_a government_n v._o dr._n baily_n life_n of_o b._n fisher_n about_o the_o end_n of_o it_o a_o toleration_n will_v increase_v the_o number_n of_o papist_n the_o true_a way_n to_o suppress_v popery_n be_v by_o severity_n to_o papist_n and_o clemency_n to_o other_o roman_a catholic_n john_n 16.2_o 1_o pet._n 2.14_o prov._n 14.34_o isa._n 28.19_o euseb._n hist._n eccl._n v._n 24._o vales._n in_o locum_fw-la firmilians_n epistle_n among_o cyprian_n epist._n 75._o pag._n 166._o edit_n rigaltii_fw-la cypr._n epist._n 74._o &_o 75._o vide_fw-la rigalt_n in_o cyprian_a epist._n 75._o july_n 28._o and_o august_n 2._o 2._o cyprian_a ep._n 74._o &_o 75._o 75._o rigalt_n obs._n in_o ep._n 75._o 75._o almost_o 22_o year_n after_o the_o reign_n of_o alexander_n severus_n cyprian_a epist._n 75._o p._n 160._o 160._o in_o their_o synodical_a epist._n epist._n see_v in_o the_o codex_fw-la canonum_fw-la universalis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la or_o 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