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A66974 Two discourses concerning the adoration of a B. Saviour in the H. Eucharist the first: Animadversions upon the alterations of the rubrick in the Communion-Service, in the Common-Prayer-Book of the Church of England : the second: The Catholicks defence for their adoration of our Lord, as believed really and substantially present in the Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist. R. H., 1609-1678. 1687 (1687) Wing W3459; ESTC R16193 65,860 80

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adoration_n that_o inward_a honour_n which_o we_o always_o carry_v towards_o our_o lord_n christ_n as_o god_n now_o notwithstanding_o this_o §_o 47_o whereas_o the_o late_a declaration_n first_o say_v that_o adoration_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v do_v to_o any_o corporal_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v natural_a body_n as_o in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o 2_o that_o upon_o this_o reason_n because_o the_o natural_a body_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v not_o in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o 3_o that_o again_o upon_o this_o reason_n because_o this_o body_n be_v in_o heaven_n can_v also_o be_v in_o the_o eucharist_n i._n e._n in_o more_o place_n than_o one_o at_o the_o same_o time_n therefore_o it_o seem_v clear_o to_o deny_v adoration_n due_a to_o christ_n body_n as_o any_o way_n present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n contrary_a to_o the_o forecited_n doctrine_n and_o contrary_a to_o the_o religion_n of_o king_n james_n and_o bishop_n andrews_n publish_v to_o the_o world_n abroad_o or_o at_o least_o in_o thus_o deny_v adoration_n due_a to_o a_o corporal_a presence_n and_o then_o not_o declare_v any_o other_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o be_v adorable_a when_o as_o such_o a_o presence_n they_o believe_v it_o seem_v to_o betray_v the_o communicant_o to_o a_o great_a miscarriage_n in_o their_o behaviour_n as_o to_o such_o our_o saviour_n presence_n at_o the_o receive_n of_o these_o dreadful_a mystery_n and_o to_o abridge_v this_o duty_n of_o that_o extent_n in_o which_o it_o have_v former_o be_v
to_o catholic_n with_o s._n austin_n very_o unreasonable_a similiter_fw-la etiam_fw-la say_v he_o epist_n 118._o januario_n siquid_fw-la horum_fw-la tota_fw-la per_fw-la orbem_fw-la frequentat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la nam_fw-la &_o hinc_fw-la quin_fw-la ita_fw-la faciendum_fw-la sit_fw-la disputare_fw-la insolentissimae_fw-la insaniae_fw-la est_fw-la and_o graeci_fw-la omnes_fw-la say_v bishop_n forbes_n de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a church_n adorant_a christum_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n et_fw-la quis_fw-la ausit_fw-la omnes_fw-la hos_fw-la christianos_n idololatriae_fw-la arcessere_fw-la &_o damnare_fw-la §_o 28_o v._n last_o beside_o this_o great_a body_n catholic_n have_v since_o luther_n time_n in_o the_o reformation_n no_o small_a number_n of_o protestant_n i_o mean_v such_o as_o be_v the_o genuine_a son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n proceed_v thus_o far_o as_o to_o confess_v both_o a_o real_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o adoration_n of_o it_o as_o present_v there_o a_o real_a presence_n of_o it_o to_o each_o worthy_a receiver_n though_o not_o to_o the_o element_n and_o hooker_n if_o he_o mistake_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o his_o time_n say_v eccles_n pol._n l._n 5._o §_o 67._o wherefore_o shall_v the_o world_n continue_v still_o distract_v and_o rend_v with_o so_o many_o manifold_a contention_n when_o there_o remain_v now_o no_o controversy_n save_v only_o about_o the_o subject_n where_o christ_n be_v nor_o do_v any_o thing_n rest_v doubtful_a in_o this_o but_o whither_o when_o the_o sacrament_n be_v administer_v christ_n be_v whole_a within_o man_n only_o or_o else_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v also_o external_o seat_v in_o the_o very_a consecrate_a element_n themselves_o so_o that_o if_o hooker_n and_o his_o party_n be_v in_o the_o right_n catholic_n do_v not_o mistake_v christ_n body_n as_o present_v in_o a_o place_n where_o it_o be_v not_o but_o only_o in_o think_v it_o in_o that_o present_a to_o one_o thing_n the_o element_n when_o it_o be_v so_o only_o to_o another_o the_o receiver_n of_o they_o but_o then_o the_o same_o catholic_n have_v another_o half_n of_o the_o reformation_n viz._n all_o the_o lutheran_n protestant_n that_o affirm_v with_o the_o roman_a church_n christ_n body_n present_v also_o to_o the_o element_n or_o symbol_n and_o see_v mr._n thorndike_n also_o epilog_n l._n 3._o c._n 3._o much_o for_o this_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n to_o be_v in_o with_o or_o under_o the_o element_n immediate_o upon_o and_o by_o the_o consecration_n of_o they_o which_o consecration_n also_o he_o place_v l._n 3.4_o c._n p._n 24._o in_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o element_n before_o the_o break_n etc._n etc._n mention_v before_o §_o 7._o look_v back_o now_o upon_o all_o these_o plea_n of_o catholic_n and_o see_v if_o they_o will_v not_o make_v up_o at_o least_o a_o reasonable_a ground_n or_o motive_n of_o their_o adoration_n a_o reasonable_a ground_n i_o say_v not_o here_o what_o i_o may_v sufficient_v to_o secure_v their_o faith_n from_o all_o suspicion_n of_o error_n but_o which_o serve_v my_o purpose_n to_o secure_v they_o from_o idolatry_n in_o their_o adoration_n though_o they_o shall_v be_v mistake_v when_o as_o other_o person_n because_o proceed_v on_o like_o reasonable_a motive_n be_v by_o protestant_n in_o their_o adoration_n of_o a_o mistake_a presence_n or_o object_n excuse_v from_o it_o see_v before_o §_o 8._o as_o for_o example_n the_o lutheran_n the_o adorer_n of_o one_o much_o resemble_v our_o lord_n here_o on_o earth_n the_o adorer_n of_o a_o unconsecrated_a host_n or_o wafer_n place_v on_o the_o altar_n etc._n etc._n especial_o when_o catholic_n in_o credit_v such_o divine_a revelation_n of_o christ_n presence_n and_o so_o for_o their_o adoration_n receive_v no_o contradiction_n as_o it_o be_v pretend_v they_o do_v from_o their_o sense_n because_o they_o adore_v i_o mean_v with_o divine_a adoration_n nothing_o visible_a or_o sensible_a at_o all_o nor_o any_o substance_n invisible_a wherein_o any_o thing_n that_o occur_v to_o their_o sense_n inhere_n but_o only_o understand_v christ_n body_n present_v there_o where_o their_o sense_n can_v no_o way_n certain_o and_o against_o any_o pretend_a divine_a revelation_n inform_v they_o either_o when_o it_o be_v present_a or_o not_o since_o salvis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la phaenomenis_fw-la all_o appearance_n grant_v most_o true_a such_o a_o presence_n be_v possible_a §_o 29_o these_o rational_a ground_n of_o catholic_n for_o adoration_n which_o we_o expect_v shall_v have_v be_v most_o strict_o examine_v by_o those_o who_o conclude_v the_o roman_a practice_n herein_o idolatry_n be_v slight_o pass_v over_o by_o daille_n in_o pronounce_v that_o this_o error_n of_o catholic_n vient_fw-fr toute_fw-fr entiere_fw-fr de_fw-fr leur_fw-fr passion_n apolog._n des_fw-fr eglis_n reform_v c._n 11._o p._n 90._o and_o after_o in_o reduce_v all_o their_o ground_n thereof_o to_o a_o la_fw-fr seule_fw-fr authorite_n du_fw-fr pape_n &_o the_o son_n concile_v and_o by_o dr._n taylor_n real_a pres_n §_o 13._o p._n 346._o in_o call_v they_o some_o trifle_a pretence_n make_v out_o of_o some_o say_n of_o the_o father_n elsewhere_o indeed_o when_o he_o be_v in_o a_o more_o charitable_a temper_n liberty_n of_o prophe_n p._n 258._o he_o say_v that_o for_o a_o motive_n to_o such_o a_o opinion_n roman_a catholic_n have_v a_o divine_a revelation_n who_o literal_a and_o grammatical_a sense_n if_o that_o sense_n be_v intend_v will_v warrant_v they_o to_o do_v violence_n to_o all_o the_o science_n in_o the_o circle_n but_o prudent_o there_o omit_v their_o plea_n of_o catholic_n tradition_n secure_v to_o they_o such_o a_o literal_a sense_n of_o the_o text._n dr._n stilling-fleet_n rom_n idol_n c._n 2._o §_o 7._o say_v first_o that_o if_o a_o mistake_n in_o this_o case_n will_v excuse_v the_o romanist_n it_o will_v excuse_v the_o gross_a idolatry_n in_o the_o world_n and_o in_o compare_v two_o person_n one_o worship_v christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sun_n another_o christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n he_o say_v as_o inconsiderate_o as_o magisterial_o that_o suppose_v a_o mistake_n in_o both_o we_o be_v not_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o mistake_n i._n e._n as_o he_o say_v before_o concern_v the_o probability_n of_o the_o one_o mistake_v more_o than_o of_o the_o other_o but_o the_o influence_n it_o have_v upon_o our_o action_n so_o he_o but_o what_o be_v more_o manifest_a than_o that_o the_o influence_n which_o a_o mistake_n have_v upon_o our_o action_n as_o to_o make_v they_o culpable_a or_o innocent_a be_v not_o always_o the_o same_o but_o very_o various_a and_o often_o contrary_a render_v they_o sometime_o blameless_a sometime_o faulty_a according_a as_o the_o mistake_n be_v ex_fw-la ●r_n in-excusable_a next_o he_o grant_v ibid._n §_o 5._o a_o catholic_n tradition_n of_o transubstantiation_n to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o adoration_n but_o the_o cacholick_a tradition_n that_o be_v plead_v here_o necessary_a for_o adoration_n be_v only_o that_o of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n now_o for_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n of_o such_o a_o tradition_n i_o refer_v the_o conscientious_a reader_n to_o what_o have_v be_v say_v before_o wave_v that_o of_o transubstantiation_n as_o to_o this_o controversy_n though_o the_o same_o catholic_n tradition_n authorize_v both_o namely_o a_o corporal_a presence_n by_o a_o mutation_n of_o the_o element_n into_o our_o lord_n body_n this_o from_o §_o 24._o of_o the_o rational_a ground_n catholic_n have_v for_o their_o adoration_n §_o 30_o 8ly_n for_o such_o rational_a ground_n therefore_o of_o their_o worship_n as_o be_v here_o give_v and_o not_o from_o any_o excess_n of_o charity_n or_o from_o the_o singular_a fancy_n of_o some_o few_o though_o learned_a man_n as_o dr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o preface_n to_o roman_a idolatry_n will_v insinuate_v idolatry_n be_v by_o many_o protestant_n of_o late_a either_o not_o at_o all_o or_o but_o faint_o charge_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o see_v mr._n thorndike_n in_o his_o epilogue_n 3._o l._n 30._o c._n p._n 350._o i_o say_v first_o say_v he_o that_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n prescribe_v be_v not_o necessary_o idolatry_n i_o say_v not_o what_o it_o may_v be_v accidental_o by_o that_o intention_n which_o some_o man_n may_v conceal_v and_o may_v make_v it_o idolatry_n as_o to_o god_n but_o i_o speak_v upon_o supposition_n of_o that_o intention_n which_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o church_n form_v and_o in_o his_o just_a weight_n c._n 19_o p._n 125._o they_o who_o give_v the_o honour_n proper_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n be_v idolater_n they_o that_o worship_v the_o host_n give_v the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n this_o be_v take_v for_o a_o demonstration_n that_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o host_n