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A38702 The defence of Iohn Etherington against Steven Denison and his witnesses their accusatons and depositions vvherein their whole proceedings and ground whereupon he was censured and committed to prison by the high commission court is in brief declared : which he having now opportunitie and speciall occasion also urging, thought needfull to publish. Etherington, John, fl. 1641-1645. 1641 (1641) Wing E3384; ESTC R7935 45,195 66

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