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A11461 Of romanizing recusants, and dissembling Catholicks. A counter-maund of a counterfeit embassage. Or, An answer to the posthume pamphlet of Ralfe Buckland sometime a popish priest secretly printed and published after his death about a yeere a goe. Sanderson, Thomas, 1560 or 61-1614. 1611 (1611) STC 21711; ESTC S114100 46,568 117

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jmitarion But yet of them who are sure they maintayne the truth of god as those were and did not of your Pope-lings though yee bee stout much lesse when yee be stammering in your opinions For what say yee what would Tobias what would the Israelites what the 7. Brethren what would Eleazar what Maccabeus what would Peter what Paul or my beloued Iohn haue done in these times would they not haue joyned with my professors the Protestāts I say yes they would and I am sure You they would haue despised abhorred reiected and all your Babylonish jmpieties and Profanations no lesse then they did the heathen persecutors Blud-suckers jdolaters of their time and then they did those named Hereticks Simon Magus Elymas and Cerinthus and all the like with their heathnish jdolatries and detestable heresies But here I haue somewhat against you Will you neuer clense your filthy tongues neuer cease to reuile and rayle at my faithfull seruants and worthy Champions of my truth Luther What is Luther like to Simon Magus no. But I must tell you That man of sinne who brags and vaunts him selfe to be an vniuersall Bishop in Simon Peters place and is not to be the Vicar generall of the vniuersall Church on earth and by me was neuer appointed to that office is a very subtill Simon and a Magicall enchaunter of my people For I neuer gaue to my beloued Apostle Simon Peter him selfe any such place or power as this your Peter Pope by many crafty sleights and deuilish practices hath aduanced himselfe vnto Luther founder and Grandfather of many falsehoods No No but ordained of old and borne by my great prouidence and mercy to be the discouerer of your falsehoods and recouerer finder out of that holy truth which long had bin lost in the ground and dung of your Canonisticall and Sophisticall diuinitie and many other of your meet machiauellianly politicall and practicall corruptions Therfore you hate him the more deadly and I loue him the more dearely and will loue honour him in my heauenly Kingdome eternally Dare you say of Iohn Caluin Caluin An Arch Haeretick and corrupter of whole Prouinces whome though I know to haue knowne the truth in part and to haue prophecied in part 1. Cor. 13.9 as all my Seruants do yet I haue well approued for a choyce Teacher and Instructor of the truth by his laborious writings godly jnstitutions through all the parts of Christendome I say therefore once more touch not mine Annoynted do my prophets no harme Psal 105.5 make not the Ministers of my gospell the seducers of soules 1. Tim. 4.16 for they shall saue themselues and them that heare them Els I will come against you shortly and not onely consume you with the breath of my mouth 2. Thes 2.8 but vtterly abolish you by the brightnesse of my cōming Then shall you see and know the third sort of your examples myne Ancient true Martyrs worthy jndeed of all jmitation for their constant labouring and striuing in defence of my gospell vnto the death to be none of your defiled and corrupted Church yea you shall see them I say Crowned with jmmortall happines and glory but your selues with a number of false Martyrs whome yee haue thrust into your yerely Kalender with all haereticks and jdolaters to be cast out into vtter Darknes Mat. ●4 51 there shal be weeping and gnashing of teeth The false Embassador Participatition in works of Haeresie worse then in Acts of Idolatry IF now you be so simple as to thinke that Heresie is not worse then Idolatry that to forsake me c. Greater sacriledge then the courtesie of Cap and Knee c. Euery Iote of whose rituall Customes c. 24. 24. Heresie worse then jnfidelity jdolatry Seeing euery falshood the more it hath of truth is the more apt to beguile c. A plaine fable is laughed at but not hated c. The Lord Christ. WHether Haeresie be worse then Idolatry or no I do not reasō with you neither is it to the purpose here They are both Abhominable in my sight and damnable it is to communicate with either But this is your perpetuall error to take the Protestants for Haereticks reforme that and this declaration is altogether jmpertinent Let Haeresie be worse then Infidelitie and Idolatry yet if the professed Protestants of England be not Haereticks and their seruice not haereticall you haue no Reason by that reason to call those your adhaerents in some opinions from those their Congregations where they may learne to reforme them but yee say if yee be so simple as to thinke that to cast 2. or 3. graines of frankincense vppon an heathen Altar or to lay c. that is to offer and doe homage to the Idols of the heathen Bacchus Ceres Iupiter and the like to be greater sacriledge then the curtesie of Cap and knee and reuerentiall presence at their thrice Idolatrous Communion or then the seruice to maintenaunce thereof erected Euery iot of whose rituall Customes and publique prayers was inuented Commaunded practised and is still continewed only in detestation defiance extirpation and deniall of my faith Catholick Then oh then how are yee deceaued First why say you thrise Idolatrous Communion and not rather thrise haereticall in this place being now about to Call your fellowes from the Haeresie of the Church of England by presuming the same to be worse then Infidelitie idolatry But this Crazines in your braine I forgiue you only I would haue you shew but one poynt of Idolatry in that Communion 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 There is no worship of bread as in yours no veneration no adoration of a crosse or Crucifixe They onely kneele and do reuerence to me the honourable sonne of God represented vnto their faith when they receaue the bread and wine in remembraunce of my death and passion §. 20. pag. 36. lin 11. Againe haue yee so short and shitlie a memorie as to forget what you lately charged the Protestant Church withall viz. That their ministerie hath stolen away your Churches ornaments and let vp and downe clad in her robes that now you say euery lot of their rituall Customes and publique prayers was inuented Commaunded practised and is still continewed onely in detestation defiance extirpation and deniall of your faith Catholick for myne you call it falsely for if euery Iot of their rituall customes and publique prayers were inuented onely in deniall of your faith then haue they stolen away none of your ornaments nor let vp and downe in her robes c. And if they haue stolen any then euery Iot of their rituall Customes was not invented as yee say Thus jnconsequently and giddily to speake is this to bring a message from Heauen jn my name Now Fie vppon such folly Idolatrie and Haeresy are both alike abhominable It is Idle to argue which is the worse Yf I should examine your doughty
OF ROMANIZING RECVSANTS AND DISSEMBLING CATHOLICKS A COVNTER-MAVND of a counterfeit Embassage OR AN ANSWERE TO the posthume Pamphlet of Ralfe Buckland sometime a Popish Priest secretly printed and published after his death about a yeere a goe I haue not sent these Prophets sayth the Lord yet they ranne I haue not spoken to them yet they Prophecied Ieremy 23.21 AT LONDON Printed by Thomas Purfoot An. Dom. 1611. These things are performed in this Treatise 1 THe scope or drift of the Priests Pamphlet is iustified viz. That dissembling Papists in England ought to vnmaske themselues 2 The Popish Doctrine inserted is controwled by the Positiue Doctrine of Truth 3 The prophane blasphemies and vniust Criminations against the true professours called Protestants are iustly retorted vpon the Popish Synagogue 4 Vnsetled Consciences among the Papists are exhorted to continew their obedience to the proceedings of the English Protestant Church that by gods grace in the end they may be setled in the Truth TO THE MOST REVErend Father in God the Lord Arch-bishop of Canterbury his Grace Primate and Metropolitane of all England and of his Maiesties most Honourable priuie Councell my very good Lord. Most Reuerend Father THE DEDIcation of euery work framed against the Common Aduersary of our Church and State seemeth vnto me of right next vnder his Majestie to belong vnto your Grace in regard both of your Place and Person Your Place being as that of Zadock or Nathan to King Dauid your Person worthy of all Honour Whome God and the King haue so greatly honoured with such high and eminent graces and endowments as which truly none saue Haereticall and Prophane Spirits of enuy and malignitie can dis-tast but which the syncerely-christian ought to prosecute with all Honourable approbation and loyalty The consideration whereof respectiuely joyned with some other congruent motiues hath emboldned me at this time submisly to entreat your Graces Patronage of this my first Onset in this Kind which I haue giuen to the Iesuiticall Opposite Wherefore in all humilitie presuming to commend the same to your Graces protection I pray God almighty to assist and blesse your Grace in all your weighty affaires with his most holy Spirit and happy succes for euer Your Graces in all most humble affection and duty TH. SANDERSON To the Reader CHristian Reader In this Treatise Truth and zeale of Gods glory which were aymed at I trust will appeare But I should hardly haue deliuered store of reading though I had beene furnished therewith For neither doth the quality of the Message controwled require it neither is it fitting for him in whose name it is answered to make shew of it The Person answering is our blessed Sauiour himselfe whose word is a proofe inuincible In whose name a popish Priest hath audaciously praesumed to deliuer an Embassage which he neuer receaued The Message it selfe is full of rayling lyes and blasphemies but no learning at all I cannot find that scarcely once he attempteth to prooue any of those idolatrous and Popish opinions which he euery where scattereth As he layeth downe false principles of Popish doctrine without proofes so it may be found in this Countermand that they are crossed and checked with the Positiue Truth supported with some chiefe fundamentall arguments thereof Of this I thought good to aduertise thee because this Answere intendeth onely to discouer the praesumption of a false Embassadour the impudent calumniations of a notable Rayler and the erroneous doctrines of a Romish Priest to the end to controwle the malapert sawcines of the Embassadour to retort the iniurious criminations of the Railer to oppose the Truth of God to the Romish profession that wisedome may be iustified of all her children and they that run well may run so still vntill the light of God do shine full in their hearts and vntill vnremooueable grace bee with all them that loue the Lord Iesus Christ in syncerity The Preface A Short Horse is soone curried though a ragged Colt is not so sodenlie broken A pettie pamphlet may be sodenlie answered though a prophane pedantick Haeretick is not so readily put to silence But it is no matter Dogs will barke and euill workers will euer be busie bodies and the Concision will neuer bee of the true circumcision Si pro errore homines damnabili dissensione conuicta modis omnibus falsitate tanta praesumunt c. quantò magis aequum est oportet eos qui pacis vnitatis Christianae asserunt veritatem c. satagere instanter atque impigrè non solum pro eorum munimine quiiam catholici sunt verum etiā pro eorum correctione qui nondum sunt Nam sipertinacia insuperabiles vires habere conatur quātas debet habere constantia Aug. ad Festū ep 197. quae in eo bono quod perseuerantèr infatigabilitèr agit Deo placere se nouit proculdubio non potest hominibus prudentibus displicere It is therefore expedient and it shall not be grieuous because it is a work of no great labour as to answere words with words againe a foole according to his follie c so to teach a yong coltish Priest by this Priest to range about without an errand and pretend an Embassage without a message Whose ragged Rhetorick jmpudēt boldnes is the more jntolerable because he taketh vpon him the person of Christ hauing been himselfe a Priest lym of Antichrist hauing crept like a Locust out of the bottomlesse pit he crowneth himselfe the king of kings and Lord of Lords as comming downe from heauen Is it any matter to halter the necks and euen to breake the hearts of such Colts Who dare to entitle their owne beastlie and blasphemous neighings with the name of An Embassage from the sonne of God our Lord and sauiour Iesus Christ But because this Embassador is now departed the mortalitie of this life as it seemeth to be insinuated in the preface I leaue him to the Iudgement of the Eternall Iudge Augustinus whose Iudgements are sometimes manifest sometimes secret alwaies iust Neuer-thelesse as one of the Lords Prophets and servants of Christ in the cause and quarrell of my Maister though the meanest and weakest of Ten-thousand I haue thought good to take in hand from a true and harty zeale that I beare vnto the Church of Christ to examine this Embassage And first he might haue gyuen leaue to some sturdier steed to haue rushed into the battell formost whether his meaning were in simple honestie to call backe his friends from the Enemies campe or in slye subtiltie to stirre and raise vp an open Rebellion so to muster all the papists in this Kingdome Recusants and Schismaticks as himselfe diuideth them in one Armie I will not determine his meaning because I know not his Conscience I leaue the purpose of his heart to him that is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 But as one saith Quicquid id est Virg. AEneid 2. Prov. 12.5 timeo
from the precept c. Dissembling in religion is abhominable Reuealed you are to your owne shame and to my griefe c. The Lord Christ DIssimulation and double dealing I hate in euery thing and in acts of Religion I vtterly abhorre you need not proue it by the Prohibitions in the law Deut. 22 10.11 of wearing a garment of linsey woolsey ploughing with an Oxe an Asse sowing a field with diuers kind of seeds Prou. 10.9 or by the parable of Salomon He that walketh vprightly walketh safely or boldly But will yee then remember how I cannot but detest your popish aequiuocation and mentall reseruation which is nothing else but flat lying hypocrisie As for those of your popish opinions which conforme themselues vnto the Protestants herein they must needs offend me in that they beleeue with you and professe with them for I would haue them not only professe as they doe but also change their Faith as long as they beleeue the doctrine of your Antichristian Synagogue me they cannot please For as they are Christians and know full well that my Commaundement Deut. 13.1 not to hearken vnto a Deceauer belongeth vnto all so my wil is further that they should take knowledge how that you Papists are the false-prophets of these times who compasse sea and land to make one proselyte and to draw as many as you can vnto that new strange and false doctrine of your romish faith vsing all diligence and diabolicall crafts you can in imitation of the diuell himselfe the great compasser of the earth either to perswade Iob. 1.7 or else to enforce them to fall downe and worship the whoore the beast and the false prophet Apoc. 19.20 and him only to serue I say euen that new and strange abhominable Idoll An●●e Eudaemō etiā apolog pro Hen. Garnet pag. 137. 138. the Lord your God the Pope of which Title and Blasphemy some of you are now ashamed As touching the doctrine of the Protestants shew in what one point it is not ancient and Apostolicall that you call it new They tell you and haue prooued it oft vnto you Popish new doctrines that your Canon Idoll of the Masse your Carnall presence and transubstantiation in the holy Supper your interdiction of the Cup to the Laitie your adding of salt and spittle oyle and creame in the Ceremonie of Baptisme and many other points of your beleefe where neuer heard of in myne Apostles times or in many yeares after But ye exclame and cry out vppon them new Doctrine new Faith new Ghospell yet are yee not able to say and prooue it of any point thereof This is new How is it then that you are so malapert with my Ghospell and the truth of christianitye which they professe to begin the originall thereof both foolishly and falsely slaunderously Luther Caluin and blasphemously from Mart. Luther and Iohn Caluin Remowned and worthy Instruments of my glory they were in their time and valiant oppugners and expugnators of your Antichristian haeraesies But no first founders or Authors of my aeternall truth and ghospell Moreouer Caluins Idoll who or what is that I pray you The Popes Idoll is the Masse And which are the Calamities of this present tyme whereof yee prate The hand of Iustice is to remisse and ouerslack vppon you as appeareth in that you are so bold to speake and write and print your paltry Pamphlets and seditious Libels at your pleasure Wherfore neuer tel your supposed Schismaticks that They are reuealed to their owne shame and to my griefe neither Call vppon them any more to confesse your Faith by a conuersation pleasing you but learne your selues at length to profes Syncerely the true faith by a godly life or I will make it shortly knowne to all the world to your owne perpetuall shame and horror that yee are the men who haue greiued and vexed me with your calumnious exclamations against my Saints and jdolatrous abhominations against my selfe The false Embassador ADmit that neither reason nor rule of conscience suggested vnto you Schismaticks contemne the authoritie of the Church nor that I expresly exacted of you such firme confession of faith yet ought not the authoritie of my Church c. Nor to my Vicar on earth c. The declaration of my generall Councell at Trent c. The Lord Christ. WHat a doe is here will ye neuer giue ouer railing and slaunder how long shall I suffer you Oh yee disobedient and jmpudent Generation I tell you againe your Church your Priests your Vicar your Councell at Trent are none of mine I renounce you all your Church for the Synagogue of Sathan your priests for the ministers of Beliall your Vicar for a deceaver an jdolater a grand false Prophet as Balaam your councell at Trent for a private Conventicle of Popish Prelats and Priests of your owne faction Foolishly then and ridiculously doe you charge your Schismaticks of contempt of my Church my Spouses voyce and admonition Madly doe you censure them for worse then Heathens and Infidels and divelishly do you accurse them all It is jndeed as sacrilegious as Idolatry to obay your Church to enter your haereticall Conuenticles to giue external consent to your detestable rites But to frequent the service of the Protestant Churches the Ecclesiasticall assemblies of my true Saints is so well pleasing vnto me that had these harkned vnto your Priests who called them there-from I should haue held it grieuous sacriledge by consent betweene them both had they refrayned and refused the pardon of life vpon so godly a condition viz to communicate with my Church of England I should haue found them guilty of their own bloud as now I doe these Priests I had a godly Bishop that gaue them a godly rule Augus Dulcitio ep 61. Jdem ad Festum ep 167. if they had had the grace to haue kept it Causa non paenafacit Martyrem the cause not the punishment maketh the Martyr And my selfe haue pronounced them blessed that suffer But Mat. 5.10 Addidit magnam differentiam quae vera Sacrilegio pietas Sec●rnatur Aug. cont ep Permeniani lib. 1. 1. Reg. 18.28 Santons Hagies propter Iustitiam in a righteous cause or for righteousnes sake But tell mee now how farr vnlike herein were these your Papists to the Priests of Baall that cut and launced their bodies and those phantasticall Santons or Hagies as they call them among the Turks and Moores that disoculate and wound and even kill themselues in the madnes of their Superstition Also I know I know your Pope not my Vicar is after a fashion so solicitous for soules that hee spareth neither care nor cost yet not to saue them but to destroy and murther them so that hee most aptly resembleth even Sathan himselfe the great compasser of the Earth as his jesuitical vasals also doe those their famous Praedecessors the Pharisees Mat. 23.15 that compassed both Sea
end is to be burned Your vnsavoury comparisons of the smale worme and contemptible Iuye are more agreeable vnto your selues Such eating vermins are your Iesuits that neble at my goodly vyne such clasping Iuye sucking out the sap of this my noble Plant and Tree which in my Paradise of England myne owne right hand hath Planted hedged and defenced Therefore as you counsell and commaund them in my name so do I with this onely difference that not the Protestants but you and your Church are in mine accompt the Haereticks the Babylon the Korahs companie and the Sodome And I would haue both them and you to know that as I am the mightie God and Sauiour of the world so that all my counsels are commaunds Among your selues the sonnes of men yee haue a Rule and men of wisedome haue great regard vnto it Potentiores cum rogant iubent And can you then jmagine that whatsoeuer I aduize must not carrie with it the force of a Commaund This then I say and commaund vnto your Schismaticks dissembling papists false-hearted catholicks Hypocrits weaklings Newters terme them what yee will be they as they are Phil. 3.1 to whome you haue directed this Embassage Beware of Dogs beware of euill workers beware of the Concision Flee the felowship of Romane Haereticks be not jnfected with the leuen of their Doctrine goe out of Babell come out from amōg them be yee separated and touch no vncleane thing no Idols no shrines no reliques no wafer-gods or the like I will receaue you Yf ye will not perish in the error of Balaam and the gaine-saying of Korah if yee will come from Antichrist and his Adhaerents myne Aduersaries camp and dwell among my Chosen if yee will loue me embrace and learne my true religion which they profes 2. Cor. 6.17.18 I wil be a Father vnto you and yee shal be my Sonnes and Daughters I am the Lord Almighty The Lords Conclusion HEtherto yee wicked Impes of antichrist I haue vouchsafed to lay abroad your folly and jmpiety in your owne vaine and even in mine owne words to controwle and Counter-mand your false Embassage and blasphemous Message which you haue divulged as from my selfe To the end that all the world may know how greatly I detest how deeply I abhorr your whoorish and even devilish jmpudency to abuse my person and breath out blasphemies in my sacred name Now because I see you reele and tumble backe againe into your former accusations of obstinacy and jngratitude to God of jmpugning the Catholick Faith § ●3 34.35.36 c. of greiuously abusing God and in all the rest of your declamation onely reason with them how they can excuse themselues from this your jmputation of joyning with my true professors alleadging many colours pretenses and excuses as ye suppose of this their fact whether they be guilty or no they are in this poynt wise and able and old enough let them answere for themselues If they answere you syncerely that the loue of truth hath drawne them herevnto never blame them any more For mine Apostle by my spirit hath commanded 1 Thes 5.21 1. Ioh. 4.1 Try all keepe the good Another Trie the Spirits whether they be of God or no. Prouided alwayes that they be not euer learning 2. Tim. 3.7 and neuer come to the knowledge of the Truth But if they do indeed as you haue layd the load vpon their consciences dissemble only tell a time shall serue to vnmaske themselues with me their God Lord with the world Alas alas are they such fooles to walke in Darkenes in my sight For the Darknes is no Darkenes to me Psal 139.12 the Darkenes and light to me are both alike But let them answere for themselues because yee doe prouoke them and I wil be the Arbitrator betweene you both For I will surely Iudge both them and you and all the world Iu. ep vers 14 15. at mine jllustrious Apparition in the Clouds when I shall come with Thousands of my Saints and I will giue sentence against all men and will take vengeance and rebuke all the vngodly among them of all their wicked deeds which they haue vngodly committed and of all their cruell speakings which wicked sinners haue spoken against me FINIS Jgnatius epist 6. ad Philadel 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Brethren be not deceiued if any man follow him that deuideth him-selfe from the truth he shall not inherit the Kingdome of God And yf any man withdraw not himselfe from a false teaching or a lying Preacher he shall be condemned into Hell For neither ought we to depart from the godly neither to haue conuersation with the vngodly