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A43272	The lambs innocency defended, against lyes and slanders In answer to a second reply of a priest, who is called a minister at Lazonby in Cumberland called Simon Atkinson, who hath shewed his wolfish nature against those people called Quakers; ranking them up with the papists; falsly accusing them of those things which they utterly detest; but his weapons is turned against himselfe by one of the campe of the God of Israel, whose eye is opened in measure, ... working in the shadow of reformation translated into a fairer forme springing from the old corrupt root; and to see the bickerings of the night-armie running on heaps now in the dawning of the day; and the uncircumcised in Heart and Ears in flying from the light, and repoose of the same: and from the alarum of the spirits trumpet which is founded vvithin, for the cutting downe of the man of sin, and for the quenching of his motions. Written in defence of the truth as it is in Jesus, by a foole to the wisdom of this world, who, according to measure, hath tasted and obtained of the wisdome	Helling, Joseph.	1658 (1658)	Wing H1382; ESTC R216631	44,515	52

drink if he have necessity and we shall not hinder him of such wages as Christ gave his commission to receive Luke 10.7.8 but as for Tythes which you are not onely Preaching for but also as it were fighting for the ministers of the Gospel recorded in the Scriptures did not own them to be a lawfull ceremony after the change of the Priest-hood but preached the Law changed and the commandement disanulled Heb. 7.11 therefore unlawfull under the Gospel and as unlawfully used by you take it into consideration is there not a begger in England as there was not to be in Israel and where is your store house Ah ye Tythe-mungers let shame cover you all Pr. seventh con Whether the Ministers of England c. or the Quakers trade in Babels wares as thou chargest us I but stay a little sith thou art so forward in this matter I suspect thee the more and shall therefore make bold to search thy packe before we part that I may see what commodities thou carries and whence thou hadst thy wares c. I feare thou will be found most foule in this fauls thy selfe Ans I answer yee Parish-masters trades in Babells wares as is and may be proved and therefore my charge is truth and shall stick neer you till you come down from the throne of your imaginations where the stone of your building is graven your image molten And whereas thou saith Stay a little c. I say come freely with all thy Function and search me adn spare me not and accuse me for nothing but that which I carry so I shall say little more to this but take heed thou be not found a blinde searcher as the Reader may take notice as followeth And now I come to thy false conjunction or accusations wherein thou would ranke us with the Papists if thou could Pr. first accusation The Babylonish merchants I meane the Papists have their severall sorts of corrupt wares to sell which you are their onely chapmen for and hath taken them of their hands That the common light in all is sufficient to salvation provided men doe not stifle it nor extinguish it by wilfull sinning against it Sirs say not you-so too Ans This accusation is false and confused we never was at the Papists Colledges to learne a trade as most of you have bin as at Trinity Colledge Christs Colledge Jesus Colledge St. Johns Colledge c. these Colledges was instituted by the Popes Law and named after Saints for nursing up of Jesuites as also your Churches with the Popes Crosses upon the most of them and called by the name of Saints as St. Peters Church St. Pauls Church St. Maries Church c. so I have not given you a wrong title viz. Merchants of Babell which comes neerer you in the mistery then Papists outward tenents for I must tell thee and you That Babell may be builded with cunninger Carpenters then the outward impression of superstition neverthelesse you are found the Papists imitaters injoying both their learning-shops and market-shops to wit both Colledges and Masse-houses in which you buy and sell your wares as singing Hopkins and Sternholds meeter as part of your worship commanded by the Sexon Kings as in the year 747 by King Edgbert and in 924. by King Ethelstone alies Atelstine c. as also your sprinkling of Infants which was commanded by King I●as alies Ina. or Ive in 1213. I refer the Reader to Henry Clarks Book stiled a description of the Apostles and Ministers of Christ and of those called Ministers in England c. Thou saith the Papists holds that the common light in all is sufficient as before joyning us with them and yet thou asks us Whether we say so or not Here the Reader may take notice that thou accuseth us for thou knows not what and also that thou art a blind searcher who said thou would search my packe and yet thou art sain to inquire of us What we carry and what we say I say thou art not fit to judge seeing thou art both blinde and hasty and the Papists I deny with their bloody instigations but that light I own which the Prophet Prophesied of Isay 49.6 and John boare testimony to John 1.9.10 to be sufficient to salvation which was given for salvation Isay 46 6. John 8.12 and he that walks not in this light walks in darknesse and knows not whether he goes because darknesse hath blinded his eyes as is manifest upon thee S. A. which knows not what thou speaks nor whereof thou affirmeth Pr. 2. Ac. That mans naturall will is free to repent beleeve and turn to God and that conversion is not the fruit of the spirit in the elect alone A. Here thou wou'd joyn us with the Papists but we deny thy conjunction with the Papists and thou art found a blind searcher for we hold no such thing as above For we know that mans naturall fleshly carnall will and mind is not subject to the Law of God but naturally inclined to corruption from which he that walks in the light knows a cleansing 1 John 1.7 but that convertion is not the fruit of the spirit alone is false also For the spirit quickneth the flesh prositeth nothing John 6.63 and this we testifie that it is God in all his saints m●sch worketh in them both to will and to doe Phil. 2.13 so 5. A. thou must own a lyars portion except thou repont Pr. 3. Ac. The Papist teathouth that a man may be perfect without sin in this life and may fulfill all Gods Commandements and doe not the Quakeres the same A. Here thou accuseth us with the Papists in thy smoakie consusion for sirst thou said affirmatively that we had taken the Papists waves off their hands and now thou art asking us questions What we doe but thou should have had thine Eye better opened before thou had searched my packe for thou boasted proudly and yet thou inquires of us so thou art found a blind searcher in the streets of Sodom and therefore a blind guide nor fit to lead others And as for pe●f●ction I have spoken to it before and he that perfects is also the fulfuler and end of the Law for righteou●nesse sake to every one that beleeve●h to the Jew first and also to the Genetile Rom. 10.4 and the righteousnesse of the Law is sulfilled in them that walketh after the spi it Rom. 8.4 take notice of that ye who pretends Reformation and see if ye be yet come to the Law and h●w you have passed through its Ministration of condemnation to the Ministration of righteousnesse and peace Pr. 4. Ac. The Papists makes their perfection to lye in thi●●●n casting off of wordly imployments callings relations after the fl●sh propr●●ties as their Nuns Monkes and Hormots abusing Mat. 19 11 c. you are as like them herein as you were s●itted out of their moutles Ans We deny thy accusations and the papists perfection herein but this is our perfecter by

practises as the Reader may take notice in my Answers all along this Book to that of God in every Conscience who Reades it I appeale Pr. fourth con Caust thou prove or darest thou deny that Ministers in the Gosspel time were not seated in their own Churches whether in Countries Townes or Cities Act. 14.23 ch 20.28 Tit. 1 5. 1 Pet 5 1.2 Col. 1.17 all these places plainly speaboth the countrary Ans I doe not deny but that the Apostles ordained Elders in every Church and that such as was not greedy of filthy luere Tit. 1.7 1 Tim 3.3 but took the over sight not for silthy luere but of a ready mind 1 Pet. 5.1.2.3 and they watched for soules Heb. 13 17. and not for gain from their quarters as you Priests doe but that they were seated in Parishes the Popes division with their set stypends suing men at Law if they could not pay them the tenth of the increase of their goods and ground I say that of deny and all these Scriptures that thou hast cited will not prove such a thing as that the Eiders there spoken of received Tythes either Tews Tythes or Gentiles Tythes as tenth Stack tenth Cock tenth Lambe tenth Fleece tenth Geese tenth Pig and a Hen if one have but two and Smoake pence or Peter pence c. so S. A. thou and thy Fellows with your invented Elders must be forced to own the Pope to be the institutor and promulgator of your Gentiles Tythes and he is your example for these things and not the Apostles nor Elders of old and I refer the Reader to Henry Clarkes Book stiled a description of the Prophets Apostles and Ministers of Christ and also of them called Ministers in England c. there thou may take notice of the rise and foundation of your English Church order and your Ministers maintenance who is found deceitfull workers and enemies to the Crosse of Christ Pr. fifth con Were not the Apostles Evangelists and Prophets extraordinary Officers in the Church 1 Cor. 12.28 and particularly Commissioned to Preach up and down at itinerants any where every where without limitation Mark 16.15 and doth not thy deniall of this argue grosse ignorance of the very Scripture letter Ans Here thou shews thine extravagant spirit confusedly Reader compare the fourth proposition and fifth together and see what contraditions is in them for in the fourth thou S. A. goes about to prove the Ministers setled in Churches whether in Countries Townes or Cities and now thou saith they are Commissioned to Preach any where every where without limitation and also that they are particularly Commissioned and were extraordinary Officers citing Marks 16 15 as though none but the eleven had had that commission let Paul Silas Timothy Barnabas and these Scriptures Acts 20.4.5.6 ch 13.1 ch 9.10 bear witnesse against thy falacy for Apostles Prophets and Evangelists with Pastors and Teachers Eph. 4.11 is but ordinary members compacted in the body 1 Cor. 12.12 27.28 and ordinarily supplyeth that place in the body where they are placed as also doth the lesser members and one cannot say to another I have no need of thee 1 Cor. 12.21.22 c. so but ordinary Officers in the body for the edifying of the same and for the compleating and perfecting it so here thy deceipt is seen and thou not to be like unto them nor none of you Tythe-mongers who is at ease in the flesh and in your parishes with a fat benefice And whereas thou saith I deny the Apostles Evangelists and Prophets Call Commission Office and Ministry w●ch was without limitation here I charge thee in meeknes and in truth to be a lyar for I own the Apostles Prophets and Evangelists their call commission office and travell in their Ministry and I honour them with my soule whose record layes open such leveners as thou to be deceitfull workers and enemies to the Crosse of Christ transformed into the name of the Ministers of Christ but the nature ground commission and life of Christ his Apostles you want so take thy shameles accusations home again who hath thus belied me the Lord open thy eyes to see thy own folly Pr. sixth con Is there not a vast difference between taking hire and wages which the workman is worthy of Luke 10.7.1 Cor 9.7.10.15 1 Tim. 5.18 and teaching for hire and filthy lucre sake and if it be the duty of all that are taught in the Word to communicate to him that teacheth in all good things Gal. 6 6. canst thou prove that it is not lawfull for them to take such things and if Tythes are a Legall ceremony and unlawfull under the Gospel A. Here the end of thy drut is seen Meats for the belly and the belly is for meat but God shall destroy both it and them 1 Cor. 6.13 but there is a great difference between that hire wages which the Apostles was commissioned to receive and taking of Gentile tythes which was never commanded in the Old or New Testament and also taking set stipends making bargains with Parishes suing and casting into prisons as is proved I say here is a vast difference thou hast cited Luke 10 1.1 Cor. 10 7. 10 15.1 Tim 5.8 for the defence of your hire Reader take notice of Luke 10.7 where Christ saith in the same house r●m●in eating and drinking c. for the labourer is worthy of his hire also v 8. Eat such things as is set before you mark he doth not say Take Tythes and if they will not give you Tythes sue them at Law or cast them into prison as you priests doe but he said they might cate and drink with them that did receive them Luke 10.8 mind that they were not to bide where they were not received v 10. But the Priests of our time who calls themselves Ministers of Christ as men voyd of all reason compels all sorts of people to maintain them albeit they be not received and they that denyes them to Tythes let them be what they will in opinion or judgement in Law or prison they must goe Oh shamelesse men where is your comission or example in the New Testament for these things yea or in the Old Testament And whereas thou cites 1 Cor. 9 7. I say take notice Paul saith v. 4. have we not power to eat and to drink I mark he doth not say have we not power to take Tythes and although he had power to eat and to drink yet he used none of these things neither did he write that it should be done unto him see ve●ses 15.16.17 18 19. And as for 1 Tim 5.18 I answer we shall not deprive the Oxe of his provender nor the labourer of his hire but shall communicate of our carnalls to them that sows spirituall and teaches in all good things as al 6.6 I say if any who labours in the Word and preaches freely as he hath received it come amongst us he shall have meat and