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A second friendly epistle to Mr. George Keith and the reformed Quakers who are now convinced that water baptism is an ordinance of Christ ... / by the reformed Quakers old friend Trepidantium Malleus.
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Trepidantium Malleus.
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A Second Friendly Epistle TO Mr. George Keith AND The Reformed Quakers Who are now Convinc'd That Water Baptism is an Ordinance of Christ to continue to the End of the World But are Enquiring about the Mode and Form of Administration Whether by Effusion or Plunging Wherein is proved with the Approbation of some of the most Learned Divines in London I. That John the Baptist and Peter the Apostle declare that they Plunged not II. That Plunging is contrary to the Doctrin of Baptism and therefore is no lawful Baptism III. That if Plunging were a Duty and commanded by Christ our Brethren the Anabaptist practise it not and so are Self-condemned on their own Principles Humbly offer'd to the Consideration of all the Baptized Congregations in England and also of the Dipt Ones By the Reformed Quakers old Friend Trepidantium Malleus LONDON Printed for John Marshal at the Bible in grace-Grace-Church Street 1700. BOOKS Written by the Author of this Treatise and Sold by John Marshal at the Bible in grace-Grace-Church Street WIlliam Pen and the Quakers Impostors or Apostates which they please proved from their avow'd Principles and Contrary Practices Price 1 s. The Bostonian Quakers Dunces Lyars and Slanderers proved out of George Fox's Journal and other Scriblers Price 6 d. A Reprimand for the Author of a Libel intituled Mr. Keith an Apostate Price 4 d. A Friendly Epistle to Mr. George Keith the Reformed Quaker Price 6 d. Three Contending Brethren Reconciled and made Friends Mr. Lobb Mr. Alsop Mr. Williams A Censure of three Scandalous Pamphlets The first New-Years Gift for the Antinomians The second and last New-Years Gift for the Antimonians with Animadversions on the Conversion of a Jew Salom Ben. Sholomah With a large Epitaph on the late Reverend and Learned Mr. Steph. Lobb Price 6 d. A friendly Conference between the Suffering Saints for Conscience sake the Jacobites c. Vindiciae Anti-Baxterianae Or Some Animadversions on a Book intituled Reliquiae Baxterianae Or The Life of Mr. Richard Baxter A Second Friendly Epistle TO Mr. George Keith AND THE Reformed QUAKERS c. BRETHREN I Shall not trouble my self nor you much about the Subjects of Baptism now Whether Infants or the Adult only are to be Baptiz'd Because you are Mon and Women and grown up Persons to whom I now apply my self and who are with too great Acrimony and very severe Censures contending about the manner of Baptizing We who blessed be God own and our purblind Brethren who disown Infant Baptism are agreed as one Man in this That all Unbaptized Persons young or old ought to be Baptized I now bring I hope not a drop of Oil but much Water to quench these Flames It is a common Cant among too many paper-headed Men That none should be Baptized till they come to the Years of Discretion but if we read some of their Scrible and hear some of their Chats would they had stay'd till then the Controversy might the sooner be ended According to your desire My worthy Friend Mr. Keith I appear to prove Not so much-that the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to Baptize signifys to Plunge only they are in a Dream that affirm it and with me it is an idle Question but other things Yet to do our Plungers vulgarly so right and equity I do acknowledge that one place urged against them by otherwise learned Pedobaptists is ignorantly unlearnedly and foolishly urged Mark 4. the first part of the 7th Ver. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And when they came from the Market they eat not we read and that congruously except they wash These Men Criticise except they are Wash'd or Baptiz'd For say they the Word is the Passive Voice not Active O miserable Grecians It is neither but the Mean Voice the first Aorist of the Subjunctive Mood from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the first Future of the Indicative Yet I acknowledge other Places well urged by these Lights as Hebr. 9.11 There were says St. Paul 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 among the Jews many Washings or Baptisms and among the rest Sprinkling with Blood Now if Sprinkling with Blood were a Baptism Sprinkling with Water is so In the 8th of Numbers and in the 19th Chap. of that Book they were said to be Clean by Sprinklings on them and those Sprinklings were some of their Washings or Baptisms Also those Worthies do well and unanswerably urge Mark 4.7 the latter part of that Verse where we read of the Baptizing of Beds and Boards c. were they Wash'd or Baptiz'd by being plunged into Water or Water poured on them But there is one place which our Eagle Ey'd Men urge tho' some too often in this Controversy forget it that doth knock this Dispute in the Head Luke 11.38 When the Pharisee invited Christ to Dine with him He wonder'd 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that he was not Wash'd or Baptiz'd before Dinner Did he wonder that a Man he brought just before into his House had not been plunged all over before he sate down to Meat No but that he did not what is expressed elsewhere wash his Hands before Dinner Now this Argument I dare aver is Irrefragable If a Man may be said to be Baptized when his Hands only were wash'd he may be said to be Baptized when his Face only is wash'd Is there any Proposition in Euclid more evident To say this is Synecdochical and so fâ—â— as they were Baptiz'd or Wash'd they were Baptized Why Sirs are you Men Will not this Answer serve us as well as you Away with such Childish Subterfugies they washt Hands by pouring 2 K. 3.11 As great Folly is it to tell us with inflexible confidence That all Criticks in their Lexicons and Comments tell us that the word Baptize fignifys only to Plunge or Dip. Were it true as it is notoriously false I cared not when sacred Writings tell us so plainly the contrary as if written with a Sun Beam and every one that can understand his Greek Testament may run and read it I am even Sick of any Question about this and crave Excuse I have taken any Notice of it My Work to you Good Mr. Keith and the Reformed Quakers and to all the Baptized Congregations in England and Dipt ones too is to prove First That John the Baptist and Peter the Apostle solemnly declare to all they Baptized to all the Spectators and by them to us and to all Men to the end of the World That when they Baptized such a vast Concourse and so many Thousands that they plunged not a Man of them Secondly That therefore Plunging is contrary to the Doctrine of Baptism and is no lawful Baptism but a Human or Diabolical Invention a Breach a notorious Breach an intolerable Breach of the sixth and seventh Commandment and to be abhor'd not only by all serious Christians but sober Men and Women Thirdly That if Plunging were a Duty and a Command of Christ our Dippers practice it not but are
Ball 's Catechism leave and the Quakers Paraphrase to prove the Baptism to be Spiritual But is Spiritual Baptism the Work of Man No but of the Spirit And Water Baptism is the Work of Man But where is Spiritual Baptism or Sanctifying Work said to be into the Name of God O â—ard Phrase Other places may be urged when Occasion is Mark 1.9 shews John Baptized â—ot Christ when in Galilee but when he came â—o Jordain 3. But that which is accounted the strongest Effort 〈◊〉 That many Pedobaptists grant John Plunged and that so did the Primitive Christians a long â—â—me First Not so many say so as you imagin Secondly Some think when they read Anciâ—nt History of them that Baptized in such a River that they Plunged They that so mistake Scripture no wonder if they do Eccleâ—astical History I once liv'd in a Town where 〈◊〉 a River and there as is said of Enon were 〈…〉 many Waters 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 no Convenience was there to Plunge as Gecgraphers say Is not in Enon I often thought when I walked by the River which was not seldom that had I been the Instrument in the Hand of God or any other been so and they all had been baptized by Effusion I doubt not we had all gone down into that River for our Convenience and yet never have thought of such a nasty Trick as Plunging Yet some would have ask'd What did you do there As Foolish to ask What did John do in Jordain I pray did you never go into the Water for no other end but to be Plunged there not to Swim with your Heads above Water nor to wash only your Feet I pray what had John to do in the Wilderness Go there eat Locust and wild Honey as well as choose a River for Baptism In neither was John to be a President for us III. The Transmarine Anabaptist though so fierce against Infant-baptism yet are one with me in this point and so some here in England The Dutch Anabaptist lately wrote to the English ones to know Why they Plunge For they disown it and plead for pouring as I do May not I as well urge their Authority against them as they some Commentators against me IV. I cared not if many more granted John Plunged if I prove he declares he did not I believe John's Words not their horrid Exposition I therefore soberly not as a Doubter as iâ— many things O that all were as clear I say I soberly ask without intemperate Heat but with burning Zeal mixed with Love 1. What were John's and Peter's Arms and Legs made of Of Flesh and Bone or Wood and Stone to stand and embrace and plunge â—o many Mat. 3.5 All Jerusalem all Judea all the Regions round about Jordain were baptized So when Three Thousand were baptized by Peter in one Day he had not much time to do it in considering his Antecedent and Consequent Work For my part I should have read the History of John's and Peter's Baptism a thousand times over before I should have thought of such an ill lookt thing as Plunging had I not heard of some that dreamt of it Either they were plunged with their Cloaths on if so then indeed had they lookt like Men full of new Wine All must have smil'd and I think the gravest of themselves Or they were plunged with their Cloaths off They were then guilty of Immodesty Peter's Converts never thought of being baptized when they came out and so brought no change of Cloaths if they had there could be no putting on without putting off What! Men and Women seen naked before all Persons young and old Wet Cloaths next to the Body is dangerous in all Places to most Persons but I suppose their Bodies were made of no Man knows what Did Christ indeed deliver from the Yoke of Bondage and take away so many easy things comparitavely to Plunging and bring under this â—oke Bread and Wine are things grave and decent in the other Sacrament and I doubt not so must Washing be in this without change of Cloaths without strong Liquors to fortify against the Danger of a Gospel Ordinance 4. Some others Object There must be Plunging on another Account if you have a Baptism that answers some of the ends of Baptism that is not enough Vnless it answers all the ends of Baptism it is not right Now we are said Rom. 6.4 to be buried with Christ in Baptism 1. Prove if you can that those words have any Relation to the Form of Baptism but to the Confession of Sin the Person baptiz'd made see Mat. 3.6 Confession of Sin we are said elsewhere to be dead with Christ and risen with Christ where not a word is mentioned of Water Baptism by which we understand Mortification and Vivification Thus Men deny others Symbolical Signs and yet make some to themselves 2. Yet were it so not to say what others have well done of the Jows way of Burials as we read of Joseph of Arimathea c. our Form of Baptizing more represents a Burial than theirs When we bury a Man do we drive him or plunge him into the Earth or pour Earth upon him Comparisons run not on all four I am under a Necessity of taking up this and a sew Passages more I have written in other Books Pardon me Reader I use not to offend this way I cannot help it this once When any Anabaptist goes down into the Water I wish he would remember the words of God by the Prophet to them that went down into Egypt Oh do not this abominable thing my Soul hates This is a Breach of the sixth and seventh Commandment which forbids all Temptations Incentives unnecessary Actions that have a tendency to it besides the God and Man provoking Sin of some that deny their true Baptism What is the reason that more Frenehers among the Anabaptists long professing Religion should at last fall more before one particular Sin than other Ministers As I have observed where Providence hath cast me I speak not now of young Men but Men of Years I verily believe nay I doubt it not they got their Infection by embracing the fair Sex Would I were sure Mr. T. got none of his there Mrs. Roe of Bristol for Twenty Years or more confessed to her Husband to all Ministers and me among the rest and to good Mr. Fairclough who mentioned it in my hearing in the open Pulpit That one of the first Plungers there at Baptist-Mill for so is the place called frequently lay with the Women he plunged with her in particular which made her go up and down as a Terror to her self I call the great God to record I mention not this Story on any Design against the Anabaptist but to cure them of this Evil if there may be hope I doubt not the Piety of many of them He that had the Vanity of writing himself lately Medicinae Doctor Academia Cantabrigiensis to make himself look bigger after the