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A61526 An answer to some papers lately printed concerning the authority of the Catholick Church in matters of faith, and the reformation of the Church of England Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1686 (1686) Wing S5562; ESTC R14199 24,213 73

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did this come to be a Point of Salvation And for the Practice of it she saith the Bishops told her they did it daily Whether they did it or not or in what sense they did it we cannot now be better informed But we are sure this could be no Argument for her to leave the Communion of our Church because she was told by these Bishops they did it and continued in the Communion of it 4. Lastly As to the Infallibility of the Church If this as applied to the Roman Church could be any where found in Scripture we should then indeed be to blame not to submit to all the Definitions of it But where is this to be found Yes Christ hath promised to be with his Church to the end of the World Not with his Church but with his Apostles And if it be restrained to them then the end of the World is no more than always But suppose it be understood of the Successors of the Apostles were there none but at Rome How comes this Promise to be limited to the Church of Rome and the Bishops of Antioch and Alexandria and all the other Eastern Churches where the Bishops as certainly succeeded the Apostles as at Rome it self not to enjoy the equal Benefit of this Promise But they who can find the Infallibility of the Church of Rome in Scripture need not despair of finding whatever they have a Mind to there But from this Promise she concludes That our Saviour would not permit the Church to give the Laity the Communion in One kind if it were not lawful so to do Now in my Opinion the Argument is stronger the other way The Church of Rome forbids the doing of that which Christ enjoyned therefore it cannot be Infallible since the Command of Christ is so much plainer than the Promise of Infallibility to the Church of Rome But from all these things laid together I can see no imaginable Reason of any force to conclude that she could not think it possible to save her Soul otherwise than by embracing the Communion of the Church of Rome And the Publick will receive this Advantage by these Papers that thereby it appears how very little is to be said by Persons of the greatest Capacity as well as Place either against the Church of England or for the Church of Rome FINIS An Advertisement Of Books Printed for Richard Chiswell THe History of the Reformation of the Church of England By GILBERT BVRNET D. D. in two Volumes Folio The Moderation of the Church of England in her Reformation in Avoiding all undue Compliances with Popery and other sorts of Phanaticisms c. By TIMOTHY PVLLER D. D. Octavo A Dissertation concerning the Government of the Ancient Church more particularly of the Encroachments of the Bishops of Rome upon other Sees By WILLIAM CAVE D. D. Octavo An Answer to Mr. Serjeants Sure Footing in Christianity concerning the Rule of Faith With some other Discourses By WILLIAM FALKNER D. D. 40. A Vindication of the Ordinations of the Church of England in Answer to a Paper written by one of the Church of Rome to prove the Nullity of our Orders By GILBERT BVRNET D. D. Octavo The History of the Gunpowder Treason collected from Approved Authors as well Popish as Protestant With a Vindication of the said History and of the Proceedings and Matters relating thereunto from the Exceptions which have been made against it And more especially of late Years by the Author of the Catholick Apology and others 40. A Relation of the Barbarous and Bloody Massacre of about an hundred thousand Protestants begun at Paris and carried on over all France in the Year 1572. Collected out of Mezcray Thuanus and other Approved Authors 40. The APOLOGY of the Church of England and an Epistle to one Signior Scipio a Venetian Gentleman concerning the Council of Trent Written both in Latin by the Right Reverend Father in God IOHN IEWEL Lord Bishop of Sarisbury Made English by a Person of Quality To which is added The Life of the said Bishop Collected and Written by the same Hand Octavo A LETTER writ by the last Assembly General of the Clergy of France to the Protestants inviting them to return to their Communion Together with the Methods proposed by them for their Conviction Translated into English and Examined by GILB BVRNET D. D. 80. The Life of WILLIAM BEDEL D. D. Bishop of Kilmore in Ireland Together with Certain Letters which passed betwixt him and Iames Waddesworth a late Pensioner of the Holy Inquisition in Sevil in Matter of Religion concerning the General Motives to the Roman Obedience 40. The Decree made at ROME the Second of March 1679. condemning some Opinions of the Iesuits and other Casuists Quarto A Discourse concerning the Necessity of Reformation with respect to the Errors and Corruptions of the Church of Rome Quarto First Part. The Second Part of the same Discourse shewing the Vanity of the Pretended Reformation of the Council of Trent and of R. H's Vindication of it in his Fifth Discourse concerning the Guide to Controversies 40. In the Press and will be published in few days A Discourse concerning the Celebration of Divine Service in an Unknown Tongue Quarto A PAPIST not Misrepresented by PROTESTANTS Being a Reply to the Reflections upon the Answer to A Papist Misrepresented and Represented Quarto An Exposition of the Doctrine of the Church of England in the several Articles proposed by the late BISHOP of CONDOM in his Exposition of the Doctrine of the Catholick Church Quarto A CATECHISM explaining the Doctrine and Practices of the Church of Rome With an Answer thereunto By a Protestant of the Church of England Octavo In the Press * Morley Bp of Winchester * Preface to his Treatise P. 5. † Letter to her Royal Highness from the Bp of Winton P. 3 4. Blandford Pag. 14. Sheldon A. B. of Canterb Blanford Bp of Worcester Blandford Bishop of Worcester Preface p. 2. p. 4.
Object of Holy Worship We must give the Eucharist in both kinds according to Christ's express Institution We must understand our Prayers when St. Paul's words are so clear about it So far at least we have plain and positive Words of Scripture on our side And for Implications and far fetch'd Interpretations commend me to the Pope's Bulls especially when they have a mind to prove their Authority from Scripture which they can do from In the beginning to the end of the Apocalypse But that which seems to be aimed at here is This is my Body wherein the words seem to be plain and positive on their side and our sense to be from Implications or far-fetched Interpretations To which I Answer That there are Expressions in Scripture as plain and positive as this which none think themselves bound to understand in their literal sense For then we must all believe that God hath Eyes and Ears a Face Hands and Feet as firmly as that the Bread was then turned into Christ's Body when he spake those words And I would know whether the Christian Church rejecting the Doctrine of Those who made God to be like to Man was not chargeable with the same resisting the Truth and denying plain and positive Words of Scripture as we are And yet I hope the Christian Church did then believe it self Suppose any should assert That the Rock in the Wilderness was really changed into Christ's Body would not he have the very same Things to say against those who denied it For are not the Words as plain and as positive That Rock was Christ But Sacramental Expressions by the consent of the Christian Church and the very Neture of the Things are of a different sense from Logical Propositions And if this had been intended in the plain and literal sense St. Paul would never have as plainly and positively called it Bread after Consecration nor the Cup be said to be the New Testament in his Blood The Conclusion is Is there any other Foundation of the Protestant Church but that if the Civil Magistrate pleases he may call such of the Clergy as he thinks fit for his turn at that time and turn the Church either to Presbytery or Independency or indeed what he pleases This was the way of our pretended Reformation here in England And by the same Rule and Authority it may be altered into as many Shapes and Forms as there are Fancies in Mens Heads This looks like a very unkind Requital to the Church of England for her Zeal in asserting the Magistrate's Power against a Foreign Jurisdiction to infer from thence that the Magistrate may change the Religion here which way he pleases But although we attribute the Supream Iurisdiction to the King yet we do not question but there are inviolable Rights of the Church which ought to be preserved against the Fancies of some and the Usurpations of others We do by no means make our Religion mutable according to the Magistrate's pleasure For the Rule of our Religion is unalterable being the Holy Scripture but the Exercise of it is under the regulation of the Laws of the Land And as we have cause to be thankful to God when Kings are Nursing Fathers to our Church so we shall never cease to pray for their continuing so and that in all things we may behave our selves towards them as becomes good Christians and Loyal Subjects AN ANSWER TO THE Third Paper THE Third Paper is said to be written by a Great Lady for the satisfaction of her Friends as to the Reasons of Her leaving the Communion of the Church of England and making her self a Member of the Roman Catholick Church If she had written nothing concerning it none could have been a competent Judg of those Reasons or Motives she had for it but her self but since she was pleased to write this Paper to satisfy her Friends and it is thought fit to be published for general Satisfaction all Readers have a right to judg of the strength of them and those of the Church of England an Obligation to vindicate the Honour of it so far as it may be thought to suffer by them I am sensible how nice and tender a thing it is to meddle in a Matter wherein the Memory of so Great a Lady is so nearly concern'd and wherein such Circumstances are mentioned which cannot fully be cleared the Parties themselves having been many Years dead But I shall endeavour to keep within due bounds and consider this Paper with respect to the main Design of it and take notice of other Particulars so far as they are subservient to it The way of her Satisfaction must needs appear very extraordinary for towards the Conclusion she confesses She was not able nor would she enter into Disputes with any Body Now where the Difference between the two Churches lies wholly in Matters of Dispute how any one could be truly satisfied as to the Grounds of leaving one Church and going to the other without entring into matter of Dispute with any body is hard to understand If Persons be resolved before-hand what to do and therefore will hear nothing said against it there is no such way as to declare they will enter into no Dispute about it But what Satisfaction is to be had in this manner of proceeding How could one bred up in the Church of England and so well instructed in the Doctrines of it ever satisfy her self in forsaking the Communion of it without enquiring into and comparing the Doctrines and Practices of both Churches It is possible for Persons of Learning who will take the pains of examining things themselves to do that without entring into Disputes with any Body but this was not to be presumed of a Person of her Condition For many things must fall in her way which she could neither have the leisure to examine nor the Capacity to judg of without the Assistance of such who have made it their business to search into them Had she no Divines of the Church of England about her to have proposed her Scruples to None able and willing to give her their utmost Assistance in a Matter of such Importance before she took up a Resolution of forsaking our Church This cannot be imagined considering not only her great Quality but that just esteem they had for her whilst she continued so zealous and devout in the Communion of our Church But we have more than this to say One of the Bishops who had nearest Relation to her for many Years and who owns in Print That he bred her up in the Principles of the Church of England was both able and willing to have removed any Doubts and Scruples with respect to our Church if she would have been pleased to have communicated them to him And however she endeavoured to conceal her Scruples he tells her in his Letter to her which he since printed for his own vindication That he had heard much Discourse concerning her