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A47734 An answer to a book, intituled, The state of the Protestants in Ireland under the late King James government in which, their carriage towards him is justified, and the absolute necessity of their endeavouring to be free'd from his government, and of submitting to their present Majesties, is demonstrated. Leslie, Charles, 1650-1722. 1692 (1692) Wing L1120; ESTC R994 223,524 303

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inhabitant_n of_o this_o province_n and_o the_o little_a encouragement_n and_o great_a discouragement_n they_o have_v have_v from_o we_o yet_o you_o know_v what_o i_o esteem_v as_o a_o great_a presage_n of_o future_a good_a they_o continue_v and_o remain_v as_o firm_a and_o faithful_a to_o we_o as_o the_o irish_a papist_n against_o we_o how_o frequent_o do_v we_o hear_v they_o tell_v we_o that_o though_o we_o continue_v to_o injure_v they_o rob_v and_o destroy_v they_o yet_o they_o must_v trust_v in_o we_o and_o be_v true_a and_o faithful_a to_o we_o we_o have_v just_a now_o intelligence_n of_o the_o arrival_n of_o the_o french_a succour_n and_o vast_a store_n of_o arm_n and_o provision_n oh_o sir_n where_o be_v our_o fleet_n do_v they_o want_v early_a notice_n of_o their_o approach_n what_o lethargy_n attend_v they_o and_o what_o judgement_n we_o that_o the_o irish_a have_v have_v as_o secure_v passage_n from_o dublin_n to_o france_n scotland_n and_o england_n as_o if_o we_o have_v 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