Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
england_n book_n church_n write_v 2,919 5 5.8866 4 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A09107 A relation of the triall made before the King of France, vpon the yeare 1600 betvveene the Bishop of Eureux, and the L. Plessis Mornay About certayne pointes of corrupting and falsifying authors, wherof the said Plessis was openly conuicted. Newly reuewed, and sett forth againe, with a defence therof, against the impugnations both of the L. Plessis in France, & of O.E. in England. By N.D. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1604 (1604) STC 19413; ESTC S121884 121,818 242

There are 9 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

follow_v be_v extant_a in_o the_o french_a tongue_n and_o consequent_o like_o also_o to_o be_v in_o england_n before_o this_o day_n yet_o for_o that_o every_o man_n understand_v not_o that_o language_n nor_o be_v it_o so_o probable_a that_o many_o man_n will_v take_v the_o pain_n to_o translate_v &_o diwlge_v the_o same_o to_o such_o as_o may_v have_v need_n or_o desire_v to_o read_v it_o i_o judge_v the_o labour_n not_o unprofitable_a to_o perform_v the_o same_o from_o hence_o but_o beside_o there_o be_v another_o reason_n of_o more_o moment_n and_o more_o peculiar_a to_o this_o place_n to_o wit_n that_o albeit_o the_o former_a print_a challenge_n may_v come_v to_o englishman_n hand_n by_o other_o mean_n yet_o the_o combat_n itself_o with_o the_o true_a issue_n thereof_o together_o with_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o trial_n and_o particular_n occur_v therein_o which_o have_v be_v write_v hither_o by_o most_o authentical_a party_n as_o unto_o the_o place_n where_o account_n of_o such_o affair_n concern_v religion_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v give_v can_v not_o or_o will_v not_o perhaps_o so_o full_o and_o sincere_o be_v relate_v in_o england_n as_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o whole_a action_n require_v the_o reason_n whereof_o each_o man_n will_v easy_o consider_v these_o then_o be_v the_o cause_n that_o move_v i_o to_o take_v this_o little_a pain_n found_v as_o you_o see_v in_o the_o zeal_n of_o truth_n and_o fidelity_n i_o have_v think_v good_a to_o deliver_v faithful_o unto_o you_o such_o letter_n as_o have_v come_v to_o my_o hand_n about_o this_o affair_n though_o not_o all_o for_o that_o diverse_a letter_n write_v out_o of_o france_n by_o diverse_a other_o party_n reportinge_v the_o self_n same_o thing_n i_o think_v not_o needful_a for_o i_o to_o print_v nor_o to_o multiply_v relation_n without_o necessity_n but_o to_o content_v myself_o only_o for_o brevitye_n sake_n with_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o k._n majesty_n himself_o and_o with_o one_o other_o of_o the_o bishop_n that_o be_v a_o actor_n in_o the_o cause_n write_v to_o the_o king_n ambassador_n in_o this_o place_n and_o to_o some_o other_o cardinal_n beside_o by_o they_o to_o be_v exhibit_v unto_o his_o holiness_n credit_n to_o who_o the_o bishop_n well_o know_v that_o the_o self_n same_o thing_n will_v be_v write_v by_o other_o also_o les●e_n interest_v in_o the_o matter_n then_o himself_o and_o more_o than_o this_o that_o his_o say_a letter_n and_o report_n will_v be_v return_v to_o france_n again_o where_o all_o advantage_n will_v be_v take_v against_o he_o by_o the_o adversary_n if_o in_o any_o one_o point_n he_o shall_v exceed_v the_o bare_a truth_n in_o his_o narration_n which_o consideration_n may_v assure_v we_o that_o he_o will_v have_v great_a care_n to_o relate_v all_o point_n both_o true_o and_o modest_o as_o in_o his_o letter_n that_o ensue_v may_v be_v see_v that_o he_o do_v and_o the_o same_o may_v be_v gather_v also_o plain_o by_o the_o k._n letter_n itself_o to_o the_o duke_n of_o espernon_n which_o after_o we_o shall_v relate_v but_o yet_o beside_o these_o two_o letter_n there_o be_v another_o write_v two_o day_n after_o the_o say_v bishop_n letter_n by_o the_o pope_n nuntio_n in_o paris_n unto_o cardinal_n aldobrandino_n and_o by_o he_o to_o be_v deliver_v to_o his_o holiness_n wherein_o be_v relate_v &_o verify_v though_o in_o very_o few_o word_n the_o very_a same_o ensue_v narration_n which_o the_o bishop_n write_v as_o by_o the_o extract_n thereof_o hereafter_o set_v down_o appear_v and_o this_o now_o be_v sufficient_a for_o a_o preface_n only_o to_o this_o matter_n be_v it_o not_o that_o i_o have_v think_v expedient_a also_o to_o touch_v brief_o two_o other_o point_n first_o what_o these_o two_o person_n be_v which_o have_v the_o combat_n and_o then_o the_o brief_a sum_n of_o that_o which_o pass_v between_o they_o therein_o for_o first_o the_o l._n plessis_n morney_n morney_n his_o name_n and_o person_n be_v well_o know_v in_o england_n for_o that_o above_o 20._o year_n pass_v i_o see_v myself_o a_o book_n of_o his_o entitle_v of_o the_o church_n and_o note_n thereof_o translate_v into_o english_a and_o much_o esteem_v by_o protestant_n of_o that_o time_n for_o that_o he_o write_v more_o cunning_o and_o covert_o and_o be_v more_o plausible_a in_o show_n both_o of_o scripture_n &_o father_n then_o common_o other_o writer_n of_o his_o religion_n then_o be_v and_o for_o that_o he_o be_v a_o noble_a man_n bear_v and_o of_o the_o laity_n and_o not_o unlearned_a in_o diverse_a language_n and_o in_o great_a credit_n for_o many_o year_n with_o this_o king_n of_o france_n who_o ambassador_n he_o be_v in_o england_n whilst_o he_o be_v yet_o a_o protestant_n and_o his_o majesty_n king_n only_o of_o navarre_n and_o now_o since_o his_o come_n to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o france_n much_o trust_v also_o and_o use_v by_o he_o in_o his_o civil_a affair_n and_o in_o government_n of_o the_o town_n and_o country_n of_o saumur_n for_o these_o cause_n i_o say_v and_o for_o that_o he_o have_v write_v many_o book_n he_o be_v account_v every_o where_o for_o one_o of_o the_o cheeife_n champion_n and_o head_n pillar_n of_o protestant_a religion_n in_o france_n whereby_o this_o his_o disgrace_n so_o notorious_o receive_v in_o that_o thing_n wherein_o he_o make_v public_a profession_n to_o be_v exact_a to_o wit_n in_o true_a and_o plain_a dealing_v must_v needs_o open_v the_o eye_n of_o such_o as_o be_v discreet_a and_o desirous_a in_o deed_n to_o follow_v truth_n and_o decline_v from_o falsehood_n and_o so_o it_o do_v we_o after_o you_o see_v the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr on_o the_o other_o side_n named_z mounseur_fw-fr person_n eureux_fw-fr be_v a_o person_n no_o less_o eminent_a &_o markable_a both_o for_o that_o his_o parent_n be_v great_a protestant_n &_o himself_o also_o for_o many_o year_n he_o be_v a_o man_n also_o of_o great_a wyet_n &_o extraordinary_a memory_n and_o by_o reason_n of_o his_o state_n of_o life_n more_o occupy_v in_o study_n as_o be_v probable_a then_o the_o other_o come_n afterward_o by_o read_n and_o by_o god_n especial_a grace_n to_o be_v a_o catholic_a he_o become_v so_o zealous_a earnest_n and_o ardent_a therein_o as_o none_o do_v more_o when_o they_o be_v full_o inform_v that_o his_o great_a endeavour_n since_o his_o conversion_n have_v be_v to_o convert_v also_o other_o and_o to_o impart_v that_o light_n which_o god_n have_v bestow_v upon_o he_o to_o as_o many_o as_o possible_o he_o can_v in_o which_o respect_n the_o k._n majesty_n of_o france_n have_v love_v he_o much_o and_o esteem_v also_o before_o when_o he_o be_v a_o protestant_n and_o no_o less_o since_o that_o he_o have_v be_v a_o zealous_a catholic_a and_o know_v he_o to_o be_v both_o learned_a faithful_a &_o sincere_a make_v choice_n of_o he_o for_o his_o especial_o ambassador_n in_o rome_n in_o the_o year_n 1595._o to_o treat_v his_o great_a affair_n for_o his_o reconciliation_n to_o the_o catholic_a church_n which_o have_v come_v to_o that_o happy_a issue_n which_o ●ll_v the_o world_n see_v both_o for_o the_o good_a of_o his_o ●arson_n people_n and_o crown_n and_o thus_o much_o of_o these_o 2._o person_n who_o be_v both_o of_o they_o so_o grateful_a and_o well_o like_v of_o the_o king_n as_o i_o have_v show_v his_o majesty_n indifferency_n in_o judgement_n also_o between_o they_o both_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o cause_n only_o except_v must_v needs_o be_v void_a of_o all_o suspicion_n and_o consequent_o his_o sentence_n afterward_o prononce_v on_o the_o one_o side_n as_o by_o his_o letter_n appear_v must_v in_o reason_n be_v think_v to_o have_v proceed_v of_o the_o manifest_a difference_n of_o the_o say_a cause_n and_o force_v of_o truth_n itself_o which_o he_o discover_v upon_o that_o trial_n now_o then_o to_o speak_v a_o word_n or_o two_o of_o the_o action_n as_o it_o pass_v you_o must_v understand_v that_o about_o christmas_n last_o there_o come_v forth_o a_o book_n in_o paris_n of_o the_o aforesaid_a mounseur_fw-fr plessis_n against_o the_o mass_n action_n which_o book_n make_v show_n as_o the_o fashion_n be_v of_o great_a abundance_n and_o ostentation_n of_o father_n counsel_n doctor_n and_o story_n for_o his_o purpose_n great_a admiration_n seem_v to_o be_v conceive_v thereof_o and_o the_o protestant_n every_o where_o begin_v to_o triumph_v of_o so_o famous_a a_o work_n publish_v in_o their_o behalf_n whereupon_o diverse_a catholic_a learned_a man_n take_v occasion_n present_o to_o examine_v the_o say_a book_n &_o find_v many_o most_o egregious_a deceyt_v shift_n and_o falsification_n therein_o diverse_a book_n be_v write_v against_o it_o &_o one_o in_o particular_a by_o a_o french_a burdeg_n jesuite_n discover_v at_o least_o a_o thousand_o falsehood_n of_o his_o part_n all_o the_o preacher_n of_o paris_n in_o like_a manner_n
que_fw-fr ie_fw-fr suis_fw-fr d'auis_fw-la que_fw-fr mes_fw-fr seruiteurs_fw-fr tiennent_fw-fr pour_fw-fr tirer_fw-fr fruit_n de_fw-fr ce_fw-fr saint_n oewre_fw-fr bon_fw-fr soir_fw-fr mon_fw-fr amy_n sachant_fw-fr le_fw-fr plaisir_fw-fr que_fw-fr vous_fw-fr en_fw-fr aurez_fw-fr vous_fw-fr estes_fw-fr seul_fw-fr a_fw-fr qui_fw-fr l'on_n le_fw-fr man_v le_fw-fr 5._o de_fw-fr may._n 1600._o henry_n au_n dessus_fw-fr de_fw-fr la_fw-fr lettre_fw-fr at_fw-fr mon_fw-fr cousin_n le_fw-fr duc_n d'_fw-fr espernon_n the_o copy_n of_o the_o k._n of_o france_z his_o former_a letter_n to_o the_o duke_n of_o espernon_n concern_v the_o late_a trial_n have_v between_o the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr and_o the_o lord_n plessis_n translate_v into_o english_a chap._n vi_o my_o friend_n the_o diocese_n of_o eureux_fw-fr have_v overcome_v the_o diocese_n of_o saumur_n saumur_n and_o the_o sweet_a manner_n of_o proceedinge_v that_o have_v be_v use_v have_v take_v away_o all_o occasion_n to_o any_o hugenot_n whatsoever_o he_o be_v to_o say_v that_o any_o force_n have_v be_v use_v beside_o the_o only_a force_n of_o truth_n the_o bearer_n hereof_o be_v present_a at_o the_o combat_n who_o will_v inform_v you_o what_o maruayle_v i_o have_v do_v therein_o certanily_n it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o great_a blow_n that_o have_v be_v give_v for_o the_o church_n of_o god_n this_o long_a while_n for_o the_o manifestation_n of_o this_o error_n by_o england_n this_o mean_n we_o shall_v reduce_v more_o in_o one_o year_n of_o they_o that_o be_v separate_v from_o the_o church_n then_o by_o any_o other_o way_n in_o 50._o year_n there_o be_v a_o large_a discourse_n to_o be_v make_v of_o each_o of_o their_o action_n but_o the_o same_o be_v to_o long_o to_o write_v the_o bearer_n shall_v tell_v you_o the_o manner_n which_o i_o will_v have_v all_o my_o servant_n to_o observe_v for_o reapinge_a fruit_n of_o this_o holy_a work_n good_a night_n my_o friend_n and_o for_o that_o i_o know_v what_o pleasure_n you_o will_v take_v hereof_o you_o be_v the_o only_a man_n to_o who_o i_o have_v write_v it_o this_o 5._o of_o may._n 1600._o henry_n the_o superscription_n to_o my_o cousin_n the_o duke_n of_o espernon_n extrict_a dv_o postscriptum_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr lettre_n de_fw-fr celvy_n qvi_fw-fr enuoy_fw-fr a_fw-fr ceste_fw-fr copy_n dela_n lettre_fw-fr du_fw-fr roy_fw-fr a_fw-fr rome_n chap._n vii_o mounseur_fw-fr i●_n vous_fw-fr enuoyé_fw-fr la_fw-fr copy_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr lettre_fw-fr du_fw-fr roy_fw-fr qu'il_fw-fr a_fw-fr enuoyé_fw-fr a_fw-fr mounseur_fw-fr d'espernon_fw-fr sur_fw-fr la_fw-fr dispute_n de_fw-fr l'euesque_fw-fr d'eureux_fw-fr contre_fw-fr du_fw-fr plessi-mornay_a pour_fw-fr verifier_n son_fw-fr liure_fw-fr qui_fw-fr s'est_fw-fr de_fw-fr tout_fw-fr trowé_fw-fr faulx_fw-fr &_o s'en_o est_fw-fr allé_fw-fr cacher_n comme_fw-fr un_fw-fr regnard_n dieu_fw-fr conduise_n tout_fw-fr a_fw-fr bonne_fw-fr fin_fw-fr a_fw-fr sa_fw-fr gloire_fw-fr &_o salut_fw-fr des_fw-fr ames_o a_o extract_n of_o the_o postscript_n of_o the_o letter_n of_o he_o that_o send_v this_o copy_n of_o the_o foresaid_a k._n letter_n to_o the_o french_a ambassador_n in_o rome_n my_o lord_n i_o do_v send_v you_o here_o the_o copy_n of_o the_o king_n letter_n write_v to_o the_o duke_n of_o espernon_n about_o the_o disputation_n of_o the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr against_o plessis_n mornay_n for_o iustifyinge_v of_o his_o book_n find_v altogether_o false_a and_o he_o be_v go_v to_o hide_v himself_o like_o a_o fox_n god_n conduct_v all_o to_o a_o good_a end_n for_o his_o glory_n and_o salvation_n of_o man_n soul_n thus_o much_o do_v write_v the_o king_n and_o his_o secretary_n the_o one_o to_o the_o duke_n of_o espernon_n the_o other_o to_o mounseur_fw-fr sylary_a ambassador_n in_o rome_n &_o both_o of_o they_o present_a at_o the_o conference_n the_o king_n letter_n as_o you_o see_v be_v very_o substantial_a &_o it_o seem_v his_o majesty_n be_v great_o move_v himself_o by_o the_o see_v and_o hear_v of_o this_o combat_n for_o so_o much_o as_o he_o affirm_v so_o resolute_o that_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o great_a blow_n that_o have_v be_v give_v for_o the_o church_n of_o god_n a_o long_a while_n &_o for_o discover_v the_o erroneous_a proceed_n of_o protestant_n the_o secretary_n also_o avouch_v as_o you_o see_v the_o falsehood_n find_v in_o mornayes_n book_n and_o that_o for_o shame_n thereof_o he_o be_v go_v to_o hide_v himself_o like_o a_o fox_n now_o shall_v you_o hear_v three_o other_o letter_n relate_v more_o particular_o the_o circumstance_n of_o this_o conference_n with_o the_o act_n &_o success_n thereof_o though_o all_o very_o brief_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o act_n themselves_o the_o copy_n of_o the_o letter_n of_o monsieur_n peron_n b._n of_o eureux_n to_o the_o l._n silary_n ambassador_n for_o the_o k._n of_o france_n in_o rome_n the_o 10._o of_o may_v 1600._o chap._n viii_o my_o lord_n at_o length_n the_o victory_n of_o the_o combat_n betwixt_o the_o l._n plessis_n and_o i_o remain_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o after_o many_o tergiversation_n which_o he_o use_v for_o the_o space_n of_o 5._o or_o 6._o day_n at_o fontayne-bleau_a i_o send_v he_o on_o wednesday_n the_o three_o of_o may_n threescore_o falsification_n take_v out_o of_o his_o book_n to_o begin_v the_o play_n withal_o for_o he_o to_o prepare_v himself_o to_o answer_v the_o next_o day_n of_o they_o he_o choose_v out_o 19_o the_o which_o he_o go_v &_o tell_v the_o king_n the_o next_o day_n that_o he_o have_v choose_v forth_o examine_v and_o find_v true_a and_o that_o he_o will_v loose_v his_o life_n if_o any_o one_o of_o they_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v false_o cite_v after_o dinner_n the_o same_o day_n in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o come_v forth_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o majesty_n and_o of_o 7._o or_o 8._o prince_n combat_n and_o of_o the_o l._n chancellor_n of_o france_n and_o other_o officer_n of_o the_o crown_n and_o counsellor_n of_o state_n where_o first_o his_o majesty_n declare_v both_o by_o himself_o and_o by_o the_o l._n chancellor_n that_o he_o will_v not_o in_o any_o wise_a that_o in_o this_o conference_n shall_v be_v handle_v any_o point_n of_o catholic_a religion_n whereof_o he_o doubt_v nothing_o and_o know_v also_o that_o the_o judgement_n thereof_o pertain_v unto_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a but_o only_o of_o the_o particular_a business_n of_o the_o l._n of_o plessis_n whether_o he_o have_v falsify_v the_o text_n of_o the_o father_n or_o no_o i_o add_v that_o when_o hunnericus_n k._n of_o the_o vandal_n will_v have_v have_v the_o catholic_n dispute_n with_o the_o arrian_n eugenius_n archbishopp_n of_o carthage_n as_o victor_n of_o utica_n rehearse_v answer_v vandalica_fw-la that_o he_o can_v not_o do_v it_o without_o the_o consentment_n of_o other_o bishop_n &_o chief_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o be_v head_n of_o all_o other_o &_o that_o this_o my_o enter_v into_o the_o present_a conference_n be_v not_o for_o that_o i_o bear_v less_o respect_n unto_o the_o seat_n apostolic_a than_o that_o holy_a bishop_n do_v but_o because_o there_o be_v no_o question_n of_o religion_n here_o to_o be_v discuss_v handle_v but_o only_o to_o show_v the_o falsification_n of_o the_o l._n plessis_n about_o the_o which_o i_o be_v well_o content_a to_o have_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o assistant_n for_o as_o much_o as_o appertain_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o grammar_n to_o wit_n whether_o the_o l._n plessis_n have_v corrupt_v the_o word_n of_o the_o author_n or_o no_o but_o not_o as_o touch_v point_n of_o divinity_n the_o which_o the_o k._n majesty_n have_v already_o very_o wise_o forbid_v we_o to_o treat_v for_o that_o he_o will_v not_o herein_o follow_v the_o example_n of_o k._n of_o juda_n which_o usurp_v the_o incensour_n and_o the_o function_n of_o priesthood_n but_o rather_o of_o constantyne_n &_o theodose_n and_o other_o religious_a emperor_n in_o remittinge_n the_o decision_n of_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n unto_o the_o church_n combat_n this_o do_v we_o begin_v to_o dispute_v &_o i_o begin_v to_o object_v unto_o he_o those_o place_n which_o himself_o have_v choose_v out_o among_o threescore_o send_v to_o he_o by_o i_o the_o day_n before_o follow_v therein_o the_o same_o order_n that_o he_o have_v take_v in_o choose_v they_o out_o the_o which_o all_o be_v convince_v of_o falsehood_n in_o order_n as_o they_o be_v propose_v &_o sentence_n be_v pronounce_v against_o he_o upon_o every_o place_n by_o the_o heretic_n themselves_o which_o assist_v he_o there_o and_o all_o with_o one_o voice_n condemn_v he_o the_o king_n in_o this_o conference_n have_v show_v himself_o so_o wise_a praise_v so_o intelligent_a so_o affectionate_a &_o so_o zealous_a take_v up_o the_o argument_n against_o he_o at_o every_o occasion_n and_o press_v he_o by_o disputation_n and_o so_o convince_a he_o of_o diverse_a falsehood_n as_o he_o have_v show_v manifest_o his_o wit_n and_o affection_n towards_o the_o catholic_a religion_n admirable_a
caluyns_n religion_n lead_v to_o turkism_n or_o a_o comparison_n of_o turkish_a religion_n with_o caluinisme_n the_o other_o be_v of_o the_o aforesaid_a polonian_a gentleman_n stanislaus_n rescius_fw-la ambassador_n and_o treasurer_n for_o his_o king_n in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o naples●_n where_o his_o say_a work_n be_v print_v 4._o year_n pass_v as_o have_v be_v say_v to_o wit_n in_o the_o year_n 1596._o and_o it_o be_v divide_v into_o two_o book_n the_o title_n whereof_o be_v this_o de_fw-fr atheismis_n &_o phalerismis_n euangelicorum_fw-la nostri_fw-la temporis_fw-la libri_fw-la duo_fw-la quorum_fw-la prio_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la atheismis_n posterior_n tractat_fw-la de_fw-la operibus_fw-la eorum_fw-la which_o in_o english_a be_v thus_o two_o book_n of_o the_o atheism_n and_o phalerisme_n or_o crueltye_n of_o the_o ghospeller_n of_o our_o time_n whereof_o the_o first_o treat_v of_o their_o faith_n the_o second_o of_o their_o work_n this_o be_v the_o title_n and_o i_o do_v assure_v the_o reader_n if_o he_o peruse_v they_o with_o attention_n and_o indifferency_n he_o will_v remain_v inform_v by_o their_o read_n and_o not_o a_o little_a astonish_v to_o behold_v what_o be_v there_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o write_n of_o protestant_n themselves_o and_o other_o authentical_a witness_n in_o this_o behalf_n of_o the_o other_o work_n of_o master_n william_n reynolds_n provinge_v that_o caluyns_n religion_n be_v worse_a in_o condition_n and_o less_o probable_a in_o reason_n then_o that_o of_o the_o turk_n &_o have_v less_o ground_n &_o substance_n therein_o than_o the_o other_o for_o all_o this_o and_o much_o more_o he_o declare_v in_o this_o work_n i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o treat_v here_o nor_o yet_o give_v notice_n of_o the_o book_n for_o that_o it_o be_v write_v &_o print_v very_o late_o in_o flanders_n &_o be_v no_o doubt_n or_o may_v be_v easy_o in_o england_n before_o this_o day_n only_o i_o will_v add_v this_o of_o the_o judgement_n of_o stranger_n to_o wit_n that_o by_o testimony_n and_o asseveration_n of_o diverse_a very_o learned_a man_n of_o other_o nation_n there_o be_v never_o write_v a_o thing_n in_o that_o kind_n and_o of_o such_o a_o argument_n more_o excellent_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o infinite_a variety_n of_o heretical_a book_n which_o he_o show_v to_o have_v read_v and_o well_o ponder_v and_o for_o the_o many_o invincible_a reason_n &_o demonstration_n which_o he_o allege_v for_o his_o purpose_n and_o so_o much_o of_o this_o and_o now_o i_o will_v speak_v somewhat_o large_a of_o the_o four_o reproach_n and_o shame_n accompanyinge_v common_o heretic_n and_o sectarye_n lyinge_v and_o especial_o the_o head_n and_o chief_a thereof_o that_o write_v book_n which_o be_v counterfaytinge_n deceytfull_a dealing_v falsifyinge_v and_o open_a lyinge_v but_o principal_o in_o alleaginge_v antiquity_n for_o their_o purpose_n whereof_o i_o have_v occasion_n by_o this_o present_a story_n of_o plessis_n mornay_n to_o say_v somewhat_o and_o the_o accusation_n of_o ancient_a father_n father_n that_o call_v heretic_n falsarij_fw-la that_o be_v falsifiar_n and_o corrupter_n of_o antiquity_n occur_v every_o where_o in_o their_o book_n so_o as_o the_o spirit_n of_o old_a heretic_n agree_v with_o this_o of_o our_o new_a in_o this_o point_n as_o well_o as_o in_o many_o other_o and_o if_o we_o will_v consider_v the_o cause_n &_o necessity_n of_o this_o reproach_n in_o like_a manner_n we_o shall_v find_v they_o no_o less_o evident_a or_o forcible_a than_o the_o former_a for_o that_o sectarye_n pretendinge_v antiquity_n in_o their_o doctrine_n for_o that_o otherwise_o it_o will_v have_v no_o credit_n &_o find_v all_o antiquity_n whole_o against_o they_o except_o only_o the_o antiquity_n of_o heretic_n and_o sectarye_n which_o they_o dare_v not_o allege_v open_o though_o they_o follow_v they_o they_o be_v force_v to_o fain_v and_o forge_v somewhat_o of_o their_o own_o as_o for_o example_n some_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n to_o be_v with_o they_o or_o else_o shall_v they_o remain_v without_o all_o show_n or_o colour_n of_o honest_a pretence_n in_o which_o point_n notwithstanding_o they_o do_v not_o agree_v among_o themselves_o beginning_n for_o that_o first_o martin_n luther_n their_o great_a father_n forseeinge_v this_o difficulty_n &_o not_o willinge_v at_o the_o begin_v to_o cast_v himself_o into_o these_o two_o troublesome_a labyrinth_n first_o of_o shiftinge_v of_o by_o divised_a interpretation_n those_o manifold_a authoritye_n of_o father_n that_o be_v to_o be_v bring_v against_o he_o and_o then_o in_o find_v out_o other_o father_n in_o his_o own_o behalf_n he_o take_v a_o more_o brief_a and_o compendious_a way_n which_o be_v to_o deny_v and_o contemn_v they_o all_o for_o so_o he_o do_v in_o very_a many_o place_n of_o his_o work_n protest_v at_o the_o very_a beginning_n almost_o of_o all_o his_o heresy_n to_o wit_n in_o the_o year_n 1521._o in_o a_o epistle_n write_v to_o a_o german_a knight_n 1521._o that_o he_o be_v tie_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o no_o father_n though_o never_o so_o holy_a if_o he_o be_v not_o approve_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n whereof_o you_o must_v imagine_v himself_o world_n be_v judge_v and_o add_v in_o the_o same_o place_n that_o the_o father_n write_n be_v full_a of_o error_n contrary_a often_o to_o themselves_o and_o disagree_v the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o wrestinge_v scripture_n and_o the_o like_a the_o same_o also_o he_o say_v of_o counsel_n in_o the_o same_o place_n and_o in_o the_o next_o year_n after_o this_o write_v against_o k._n henry_n the_o 8._o he_o say_v 1522._o i_o do_v oppose_v against_o all_o the_o testimony_n of_o father_n of_o man_n never_o so_o holy_a of_o angel_n and_o of_o devil_n etc._n etc._n whereby_o we_o may_v see_v what_o account_n he_o make_v of_o father_n and_o counsel_n when_o they_o be_v against_o he_o and_o the_o same_o do_v zuinglius_fw-la caluyn_n and_o other_o after_o he_o for_o a_o time_n when_o father_n authoritye_n plain_o be_v against_o they_o and_o can_v not_o be_v shift_v of_o by_o sleight_n interpretation_n as_o in_o their_o work_n appear_v and_o rescius_fw-la declare_v it_o notable_o and_o large_o by_o manifold_a example_n and_o place_n in_o his_o ten_o chapter_n and_o first_o book_n aforesaid_a but_o when_o this_o audacity_n grow_v in_o time_n to_o be_v very_o reproachful_a some_o late_a follower_n of_o they_o blushinge_v thereat_o and_o desiringe_v to_o exercise_v their_o wit_n in_o a_o high_a kind_n of_o subtlety_n father_n they_o betake_v themselves_o to_o a_o more_o plausible_a but_o yet_o more_o shameful_a and_o desperate_a course_n then_o these_o their_o master_n which_o be_v to_o say_v that_o indeed_o the_o father_n and_o ancient_a writer_n be_v whole_o for_o they_o &_o not_o for_o we_o as_o the_o philosopher_n that_o will_v defend_v that_o swow_o be_v black_a &_o not_o white_a and_o this_o course_n take_v first_o of_o all_o peter_n martyr_n in_o the_o ●yeare_n 1549._o and_o three_o of_o the_o reign_n of_o k._n edward_n the_o 6._o as_o appear_v by_o fox_n in_o the_o last_o edition_n of_o his_o 1549._o act_n and_o monument_n and_o this_o perhaps_o peter_n martyr_n be_v force_v to_o do_v at_o that_o time_n by_o commandment_n of_o b._n cranmer_n and_o other_o of_o the_o privy_a counsel_n who_o appoint_v his_o disputation_n for_o more_o authorise_v of_o their_o new_a decree_n in_o religion_n scarce_o two_o month_n before_o agree_v upon_o &_o will_v perforce_o have_v the_o father_n to_o be_v of_o their_o side_n 1549._o but_o what_o success_n peter_n martyr_n have_v in_o this_o attempt_n it_o may_v appear_v sufficient_o by_o the_o place_n themselves_o which_o fox_n allege_v for_o he_o out_o of_o ten_o or_o twelve_o several_a father_n whereof_o the_o reader_n will_v scarce_o find_v one_o though_o the_o say_v text_n be_v brief_o allege_v true_o cite_v in_o all_o respect_n but_o that_o either_o the_o word_n next_o go_v before●_n or_o immediate_o follow_v or_o both_o make_v whole_o against_o they_o be_v purposely_o leave_v out_o and_o other_o put_v in_o or_o mistranslate_v and_o let_v any_o man_n who_o list_v examine_v the_o same_o and_o confer_v they_o with_o the_o author_n book_n themselves_o he_o shall_v find_v this_o to_o be_v true_a england_n for_o i_o have_v examine_v they_o with_o some_o diligence_n myself_o as_o upon_o some_o other_o occasion_n hereafter_o may_v chance_n appear_v but_o now_o it_o be_v to_o long_o to_o allege_v they_o in_o this_o place_n i_o mean_v the_o manifest_a falsification_n therein_o use_v but_o if_o any_o protestant_n in_o defence_n of_o peter_n martyr_n and_o john_n fox_n h●s_v honour_n will_v take_v upon_o he_o to_o verify_v the_o same_o and_o their_o quotation_n to_o be_v good_a and_o without_o fraud_n let_v he_o write_v a_o little_a pamphlet_n thereof_o as_o easy_o he_o may_v they_o be_v contain_v in_o less_o than_o one_o page_n &_o he_o shall_v present_o
s._n augustine_n be_v present_a and_o upon_o both_o the_o say_a counsel_n earnest_a request_n the_o same_o be_v accurse_v also_o by_o pope_n innocentius_n the_o first_o as_o testify_v s._n augustine_n epist_n 90._o 92._o &_o 93._o and_o this_o be_v the_o first_o shift_n second_o of_o all_o the_o father_n that_o speak_v of_o this_o matter_n against_o he_o and_o s._n augustine_n by_o name_n in_o almost_o infinite_a place_n he_o make_v his_o adversary_n to_o allege_v only_o one_o text_n out_o of_o the_o say_a father_n and_o we_o must_v believe_v he_o for_o that_o we_o have_v not_o his_o adversaries_n treatise_n s._n augustine_n place_n be_v lib._n 3._o de_fw-la anima_fw-la cap._n 9_o 9_o but_o cite_v not_o his_o word_n yet_o answer_v they_o thus_o to_o s._n augustine_n i_o answer_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o such_o as_o die_v in_o original_a sin_n and_o seem_v to_o contemn_v baptism_n father_n this_o be_v the_o most_o blockish_a refuge_n that_o possible_o can_v be_v imagine_v for_o first_o all_o man_n before_o baptism_n die_v in_o original_a sin_n and_o second_o s._n austen_n speak_v of_o infant_n that_o have_v not_o capacity_n to_o contemn_v baptism_n his_o word_n be_v these_o noli_fw-la credere_fw-la noli_fw-la dicere_fw-la noli_fw-la docere_fw-la etc._n etc._n do_v not_o thou_o believe_v do_v thou_o not_o say_v do_v thou_o not_o teach_v if_o thou_o will_v be_v a_o catholic_a that_o infant_n prevent_v by_o death_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v can_v come_v to_o receive_v pardon_n of_o original_a sin_n behold_v then_o the_o forehead_n of_o sutcliffe_n that_o will_v wipe_v of_o both_o this_o and_o infinite_a place_n of_o s._n augustine_n more_o express_o avouchinge_v the_o same_o doctrine_n by_o such_o a_o senseless_a sleight_n damnari_fw-la animas●_n say_v he_o write_v to_o s._n hierome_n ●_o hieron_n si_fw-mi sine_fw-la baptismo_fw-la de_fw-la corpore_fw-la exierint_fw-la &_o sancta_fw-la scriptura_fw-la &_o sancta_fw-la testis_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la that_o the_o soul_n be_v damn_v that_o pass_v out_o of_o this_o world_n without_o baptism_n both_o holy_a scripture_n and_o holy_a church_n be_v witness_v now_o will_v i_o demand_v of_o sutcliffe_n whether_o ever_o he_o read_v these_o place_n or_o not_o if_o he_o do_v not_o then_o must_v he_o confess_v himself_o to_o be_v ignorant_a or_o wilful_a in_o that_o he_o will_v answer_v s._n augustine_n without_o look_v upon_o he_o if_o he_o do_v and_o answer_v as_o he_o do_v then_o be_v he_o both_o malicious_a and_o shameless_a but_o now_o three_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o their_o communion-booke_n bring_v against_o he_o by_o e._n o._n say_v that_o none_o be_v save_v shift_n that_o be_v not_o regenerate_v by_o baptism_n he_o answer_v thus_o it_o be_v impious_a to_o tie_v god_n grace_n to_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n we_o exclude_v not_o extraordinary_a course_n wherein_o first_o as_o you_o see_v he_o reject_v plain_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o say_a communion-booke_n that_o tie_v salvation_n to_o regeneration_n by_o baptism_n &_o second_o you_o must_v remember_v that_o the_o question_n whether_o this_o doctrine_n of_o sutcliffe_n of_o extraordinary_a course_n and_o savinge_v man_n without_o baptism_n be_v catholic_a &_o conform_v to_o the_o universal_a doctrine_n of_o ancient_a father_n or_o no_o whereof_o he_o speak_v not_o one_o word_n nor_o allege_v any_o one_o testimony_n to_o prove_v his_o opinion_n catholic_a that_o be_v to_o say_v general_a and_o universal_a but_o only_o say_v we_o exclude_v not_o extroordinary_a course_n and_o tell_v we_o not_o who_o these_o we_o be_v for_o that_o it_o can_v be_v the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o set_v forth_o the_o say_a communion_n book_n and_o consequent_o have_v neither_o the_o ancient_a church_n nor_o our_o church_n at_o this_o day_n nor_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o stand_v with_o he_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v how_o he_o will_v make_v his_o opinion_n catholic_a that_o be_v universal_a and_o thus_o much_o of_o the_o three_o shift_n the_o four_o be_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o his_o own_o word_n allege_v against_o he_o by_o e._n o._n whereunto_o he_o answer_v thus_o cozenage_n i_o do_v confess_v that_o infant_n die_v in_o original_a sin_n be_v damn_v to_o hell_n fire_n but_o i_o hope_v no_o man_n will_v say_v that_o all_o that_o die_v before_o baptism_n albeit_o they_o much_o desire_v it_o and_o believe_v in_o christ_n jesus_n die_v in_o original_a sin_n o_o slippery_a evasion_n our_o question_n here_o be_v sir_n matthew_n of_o infant_n that_o can_v desire_v baptism_n for_o as_o for_o other_o that_o be_v of_o age_n and_o do_v desire_v it_o they_o may_v be_v save_v by_o baptism_n in_o desire_n as_o before_o be_v grant_v again_o your_o immediate_a word_n before_o in_o this_o very_a sentence_n do_v speak_v of_o infant_n for_o you_o say_v i_o do_v confess_v that_o infant_n be_v damn_v to_o hell_n fire_n and_o what_o a_o fellow_n be_v you_o then_o which_o say_v in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o same_o sentence_n albeit_o they_o much_o desire_v it_o and_o believe_v in_o christ_n jesus_n three_o you_o say_v a_o little_a before_o that_o want_n of_o baptism_n do_v soud_v infant_n to_o hell_n and_o now_o you_o say_v that_o infant_n die_v in_o original_a sin_n be_v damn_v to_o hell_n fire_n which_o though_o in_o our_o sense_n be_v all_o one_o that_o hold_v infant_n die_v without_o baptism_n do_v die_v in_o original_a sin_n yet_o in_o your_o sense_n that_o hold_v that_o infant_n may_v die_v before_o baptism_n &_o yet_o free_v from_o original_a sin_n be_v altogether_o different_a &_o consequent_o a_o mere_a consenage_n so_o to_o alter_v your_o word_n for_o deceive_a your_o reader_n but_o now_o we_o come_v to_o the_o last_o shift_a answer_n of_o all_o which_o be_v such_o and_o so_o unintelligible_a as_o no_o man_n read_v &_o consider_v the_o same_o can_v otherwise_o think_v but_o that_o the_o author_n be_v either_o distemper_v or_o bereave_v of_o his_o sense_n when_o he_o frame_v it_o i_o shall_v relate_v it_o in_o his_o own_o word_n &_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v of_o it_o place_n he_o conclude_v final_o say_v he_o to_o wit_n e._n o._n that_o see_v the_o want_n of_o baptism_n do_v send_v infant_n to_o hell_n these_o be_v sutcliffes_n own_o word_n before_o recite_v ergo_fw-la baptism_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o his_o consequent_a be_v weak_a and_o of_o no_o value_n 13._o for_o many_o thy_fw-mi for_o want_n of_o knowledge_n and_o for_o want_v of_o small_a matter_n and_o not_o only_o of_o baptism_n and_o yet_o god_n be_v not_o necessary_o tie_v to_o save_v none_o but_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v sick_a man_n dody_a for_o want_v of_o physic_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o physic_n absolute_o necessary_a in_o this_o place_n therefore_o the_o detector_n wander_v out_o of_o his_o way_n &_o yet_o effect_v nothing_o thus_o he_o and_o heerwith_o end_v his_o whole_a defence_n upon_o this_o second_o charge_n give_v he_o by_o e._n o._n and_o sure_o if_o he_o write_v it_o not_o more_o than_o half_a a_o sliepe_a or_o when_o he_o be_v great_o distract_v in_o other_o matter_n i_o know_v not_o what_o to_o think_v or_o say_v of_o it_o many_o say_v he_o die_v for_o want_v of_o knowledge_n &_o for_o want_n of_o small_a matter_n &_o not_o only_o of_o baptism_n either_o he_o mean_v here_o of_o eternal_a or_o temporal_a death_n if_o of_o eternal_a how_o can_v it_o be_v cause_v by_o the_o want_n of_o small_a matter_n if_o of_o temporal_a how_o be_v it_o cause_v by_o want_n of_o knowledge_n or_o how_o agree_v it_o with_o the_o death_n cause_v by_o want_n of_o baptism_n which_o be_v eternal_a how_o agree_v it_o also_o with_o sendinge_v to_o hell_n which_o be_v to_o endure_v everlasting_o again_o if_o a_o man_n die_v precise_o or_o only_o for_o want_v of_o physic_n than_o be_v physic_n absolute_o necessary_a to_o save_v that_o man_n life_n otherways_o he_o do_v not_o die_v absolute_o for_o want_n of_o physic_n &_o so_o whereas_o he_o accuse_v the_o detector_n for_o wandringe_v out_o of_o the_o way_n and_o effectinge_v nothing_o this_o man_n reel_v up_o and_o down_o in_o the_o way_n and_o effect_v his_o own_o disgrace_n and_o shame_n with_o all_o reader_n and_o looker_n on_o and_o now_o by_o the_o examination_n of_o these_o 2._o place_n you_o may_v see_v the_o fashion_n of_o this_o man_n answer_v and_o how_o easy_a a_o matter_n it_o be_v and_o may_v be_v for_o any_o man_n to_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o answer_v of_o all_o adversaries_n whatsoever_o in_o this_o manner_n and_o by_o these_o two_o example_n you_o may_v guess_v at_o all_o the_o rest_n and_o albeit_o i_o will_v glad_o end_v here_o have_v be_v long_a than_o i_o purpose_v yet_o can_v i_o not_o without_o examine_v one_o place_n more_o which_o be_v the_o four_o in_o order_n concern_v prayer_n &_o
be_v answer_v albeit_o if_o he_o do_v but_o set_v down_o the_o whole_a place_n themselves_o as_o they_o lie_v in_o the_o father_n book_n whence_o they_o be_v cut_v they_o will_v need_v no_o answer_n but_o will_v answer_v themselves_o and_o confute_v the_o alleager_v and_o show_v the_o shameless_a dealing_v either_o of_o peter_n martyr_n or_o john_n fox_n or_o of_o both_o in_o cytinge_v they_o the_o like_a deceytfull_a dealing_v be_v use_v by_o nicolas_n ridley_n b._n 1549._o then_o of_o rochester_n and_o after_o of_o london_n the_o next_o month_n follow_v in_o the_o cambridge_n disputation_n about_o the_o same_o controversy_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n whereof_o he_o be_v precedent_n martin_n bucer_n refuse_v utter_o to_o deal_v in_o that_o controversy_n he_o affirm_v to_o the_o whole_a university_n 1261._o that_o he_o have_v five_o sure_a ground_n for_o the_o opinion_n of_o zuinglius_fw-la whereof_o the_o first_o be_v to_o use_v his_o word_n the_o authority_n majesty_n and_o verity_n of_o holy_a scripture_n the_o second_o the_o most_o certain_a testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a father_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o both_o these_o foundation_n be_v most_o evident_o against_o he_o as_o much_o the_o one_o as_o the_o other_o which_o bucer_n well_o know_v &_o therefore_o will_v not_o take_v part_n with_o he_o in_o that_o matter_n though_o soon_o after_o to_o remedy_v this_o breach_n he_o put_v up_o three_o other_o impertinent_a question_n to_o be_v dispute_v against_o catholic_n but_o in_o this_o other_o article_n he_o know_v that_o ridley_n lie_v shameful_o against_o his_o own_o conscience_n for_o that_o all_o farther_n be_v against_o he_o most_o evident_o &_o so_o do_v the_o magdeburgian_o their_o chief_a protestant_a chronicler_n show_v &_o declare_v in_o every_o age_n father_n or_o century_n of_o their_o ecclesiastical_a history_n and_o it_o shall_v be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o reader_n to_o cast_v his_o eye_n over_o the_o 4._o chapter_n only_o of_o every_o century_n entitle_v of_o doctrine_n and_o thus_o much_o for_o k._n edward_n day_n when_o zuinglian_n religion_n first_o peep_v up_o in_o our_o country_n after_o this_o man_n step_v to_o paul_n cross_n in_o the_o begin_v of_o this_o queen_n day_n about_o the_o year_n 1559._o and_o 1560._o 1560._o master_n john_n jewel_n otherwise_o call_v b._n of_o salisbury_n and_o he_o proceed_v yet_o further_o in_o this_o brag_v or_o fiction_n for_o he_o protest_v there_o even_o with_o feign_a tear_n that_o if_o any_o one_o authority_n place_n sentence_n or_o asseveration_n of_o any_o one_o father_n doctor_z council_n or_o authentical_a history_n within_o the_o first_o 600._o year_n after_o christ_n can_v be_v bring_v forth_o by_o any_o man_n live_v for_o any_o one_o of_o those_o point_n of_o catholic_a religion_n which_o he_o there_o recite_v to_o be_v in_o controversy_n that_o then_o plain_o and_o sincere_o he_o will_v subscribe_v against_o which_o vain_a and_o shameless_a brag_v when_o doctor_n harding_n and_o diverse_a other_o learned_a man_n of_o our_o side_n begin_v to_o write_v from_o lovayne_n and_o to_o bring_v forth_o authoritye_n of_o all_o father_n doctor_n counsel_n and_o history_n in_o great_a abundance_n the_o first_o effect_n of_o this_o challenge_n that_o appear_v to_o the_o world_n be_v a_o severe_a proclamation_n that_o no_o such_o book_n write_v in_o english_a by_o the_o catholic_a party_n shall_v be_v receive_v or_o read_v in_o england_n under_o great_a punishment_n by_o which_o provision_n master_n jewel_n think_v himself_o meet_o well_o defence_v he_o ply_v the_o pulpit_n often_o and_o renew_v his_o challenge_n many_o time_n and_o perceive_v notwithstanding_o that_o doctor_n hardings_n confutation_n be_v come_v into_o england_n cha●lge_v he_o answer_v the_o same_o with_o a_o long_a volume_n of_o rhetorical_a word_n &_o stuff_v the_o margin_n thereof_o with_o the_o show_n of_o infinite_a author_n as_o though_o the_o whole_a world_n have_v be_v for_o he_o and_o none_o for_o the_o other_o side_n and_o with_o this_o he_o deceive_v the_o people_n then_o and_o do_v to_o this_o day_n such_o i_o mean_v as_o have_v not_o commodity_n or_o learning_n or_o other_o mean_n to_o examine_v those_o place_n and_o to_o find_v out_o the_o manifold_a lie_n and_o falsification_n therein_o contain_v and_o this_o be_v the_o gain_n by_o all_o likely_a hood_n that_o master_n jewel_n pretend_v to_o his_o cause_n by_o that_o work_n know_v full_a well_o that_o this_o sort_n of_o man_n be_v far_o the_o great_a which_o will_v be_v gain_v and_o settle_v in_o his_o doctrine_n before_o the_o learnede_a sort_n who_o be_v but_o few_o in_o comparison_n of_o the_o other_o can_v have_v time_n book_n and_o commodity_n to_o discover_v &_o refute_v he_o &_o when_o they_o shall_v do_v it_o they_o shall_v hardly_o be_v believe_v and_o in_o this_o conceit_n he_o be_v not_o deceive_v if_o we_o respect_v that_o present_a time_n and_o many_o year_n after_o as_o also_o it_o be_v probable_a the_o l._n plessis_n mornay_n have_v the_o like_a designment_n in_o stuff_v up_o his_o book_n with_o the_o like_a authoritye_n of_o father_n but_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o continuance_n of_o time_n whereof_o truth_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o daughter_n it_o have_v succeed_v unto_o he_o as_o you_o have_v hear_v and_o will_v do_v more_o and_o more_o daily_o as_o to_o such_o shift_n be_v wont_a to_o happen_v that_o be_v to_o say_v accord_v to_o king_n david_n say_v before_o record_v ●ppr●brium_fw-la sempiternum_fw-la dedit_fw-la eye_n catholik_o god_n lay_v everlasting_a shame_n upon_o they_o for_o how_o many_o learned_a man_n light_o of_o our_o nation_n have_v take_v upon_o serious_o to_o go_v over_o that_o book_n of_o master_n jewel_n &_o to_o examine_v it_o by_o the_o author_n themselves_o with_o any_o indifferency_n of_o mind_n have_v for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v thereby_o convert_v to_o catholic_a religion_n though_o never_o so_o great_a protestant_n fore_o of_o which_o sort_n i_o have_v hear_v relation_n of_o many_o but_o of_o some_o i_o can_v testify_v myself_o for_o that_o i_o have_v hear_v it_o from_o their_o own_o mouth_n who_o of_o earnest_a protestant_n be_v make_v most_o zealous_a catholic_n by_o that_o mean_v principal_o of_o which_o number_n i_o think_v it_o not_o inconvenient_a to_o name_v h●●re_o some_o 2._o or_o 3._o omittinge_n other_o which_o for_o just_a respect_n may_v not_o to_o be_v name_v the_o first_o of_o they_o be_v sir_n thomas_n copley_n protestancy_n make_v lord_n afterward_o in_o his_o banishment_n by_o the_o k._n of_o france_n who_o often_o time_n have_v relate_v unto_o i_o with_o much_o comfort_n of_o his_o soul_n how_o that_o be_v a_o zealous_a protestant_n and_o very_o familiar_a to_o the_o late_a earl_n of_o licester_n in_o the_o begin_v of_o this_o q._n day_n when_o master_n jewel_n book_n be_v new_o come_v forth_o he_o be_v also_o learn_v himself_o in_o the_o latyn_n tongue_n take_v pain_n to_o examine_v certain_a leaf_n thereof_o and_o find_v many_o falsehood_n therein_o which_o be_v in_o excusable_a as_o they_o seem_v to_o he_o he_o confer_v the_o same_o with_o the_o say_a earl_n who_o will_v he_o that_o the_o next_o time_n master_n jewel_n dine_v at_o his_o table_n he_o shall_v take_v occasion_n after_o dinner_n to_o propose_v the_o same_o which_o he_o do_v soon_o after_o and_o receive_v certain_a trifle_a answer_n from_o master_n jewel_n he_o wax_v more_o hot_a and_o urge_v the_o matter_n more_o earnest_o which_o jewel_n perceavinge_v copley_n tell_v he_o in_o effect_n that_o papist_n be_v papist_n and_o so_o they_o be_v to_o be_v deal_v withal_o and_o other_o answer_n he_o can_v not_o get_v which_o thing_n make_v the_o good_a gentleman_n to_o make_v a_o new_a resolution_n with_o himself_o and_o to_o take_v that_o happy_a course_n which_o he_o do_v to_o leave_v his_o country_n and_o many_o great_a commodity_n which_o he_o enjoy_v therein_o to_o enjoy_v the_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n for_o salvation_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o so_o he_o both_o live_v and_o die_v in_o voluntary_a banishment_n for_o confession_n of_o that_o truth_n which_o his_o saviour_n by_o occasion_n of_o master_n jewel_n falsehood_n have_v reveyl_v unto_o he_o the_o second_o example_n which_o i_o remember_v of_o my_o own_o knowledge_n steven_n be_v master_n doctor_n steven_n a_o learned_a man_n yet_o alive_a who_o be_v secretary_n or_o chaplyn_n to_o master_n jewel_n for_o i_o remember_v not_o well_o whether_o and_o a_o forward_a man_n in_o protestant_a religion_n at_o that_o time_n espy_v certain_a false_a allegation_n in_o his_o master_n book_n whilst_o it_o be_v yet_o under_o the_o print_n in_o london_n whereof_o advertisinge_v he_o by_o letter_n for_o that_o he_o suppose_v it_o may_v be_v by_o oversight_n the_o other_o command_v notwithstanding_o the_o print_n to_o go_v forward_o and_o pass_v it_o over_o
as_o it_o be_v which_o this_o man_n see_v that_o have_v a_o conscience_n and_o seek_v the_o truth_n indeed_o resolve_v to_o take_v another_o way_n of_o find_v it_o out_o and_o have_v find_v it_o in_o the_o catholic_a church_n where_o only_o it_o be_v to_o be_v find_v he_o resolve_v also_o to_o follow_v it_o and_o so_o he_o do_v and_o go_v voluntary_o into_o banishment_n for_o the_o same_o where_o yet_o he_o live_v unto_o this_o day_n in_o france_n with_o good_a reputation_n both_o of_o learning_n and_o godliness_n the_o three_o example_n that_o i_o call_v to_o mind_n be_v the_o worthy_a man_n before_o name_v master_n william_n reynolds_n reynolds_n who_o be_v first_o a_o earnest_a professor_n and_o preacher_n of_o protestant_a religion_n in_o england_n and_o much_o engage_v among_o the_o puritan_n in_o northamptonshire_n as_o he_o be_v wont_a to_o tell_v he_o fall_v in_o the_o end_n to_o read_v over_o master_n jewel_n book_n and_o do_v translate_v some_o part_n thereof_o into_o latyn_n but_o before_o he_o have_v pass_v half_o over_o he_o find_v such_o stuff_n as_o make_v he_o great_o mislike_v of_o the_o whole_a religion_n and_o so_o he_o leave_v his_o hope_n &_o commodity_n in_o england_n go_v over_o the_o sea_n into_o these_o part_n and_o the_o last_o year_n of_o jubiley_n to_o wit_n 1575._o he_o come_v to_o rome_n and_o bring_v that_o book_n with_o he_o rome_n and_o present_v both_o himself_o and_o it_o to_o the_o tribunal_n of_o inquisition_n of_o his_o own_o free_a motion_n and_o accord_n where_o i_o guess_v the_o book_n remain_v still_o if_o it_o be_v not_o burn_v and_o himself_o after_o absolution_n receive_v from_o his_o former_a error_n which_o he_o with_o great_a humility_n and_o zeal_n require_v &_o myself_o also_o at_o that_o time_n speak_v with_o he_o in_o that_o place_n he_o return_v into_o france_n and_o flanders_n and_o there_o live_v many_o year_n with_o singular_a edification_n for_o his_o rare_a virtue_n &_o learning_n and_o how_o hearty_o indeed_o he_o be_v convert_v may_v well_o appear_v by_o his_o zealous_a writing_n both_o in_o latyn_n &_o english_a in_o defence_n of_o catholic_a religion_n &_o in_o confutation_n of_o protestant_a error_n which_o himself_o before_o have_v hold_v for_o veritye_n and_o thus_o much_o of_o the_o falsehood_n of_o master_n jewel_n wrytyng_n whereof_o he_o that_o will_v see_v more_o let_v he_o read_v master_n hardings_n return_n of_o untruth_n but_o especial_o it_o will_v import_v he_o that_o have_v learning_n leisure_n and_o commodity_n to_o examine_v the_o quotation_n themselves_o by_o a_o good_a library_n but_o in_o this_o kind_n of_o false_a dealing_v i_o can_v give_v master_n jewel_n a_o companion_n as_o good_a as_o himself_o if_o not_o exceedinge_v he_o which_o be_v john_n fox_n who_o above_o all_o that_o ever_o write_v perhaps_o may_v be_v record_v for_o notorious_a in_o this_o behalf_n i_o have_v have_v occasion_n these_o tome_n month_n past_a to_o peruse_v a_o great_a part_n of_o his_o last_o edition_n of_o act_n and_o monument_n print_v the_o five_o time_n in_o the_o year_n 1596._o and_o do_v find_v it_o so_o stuff_v with_o all_o kind_n of_o falsehood_n and_o deceytfull_a manner_n of_o tell_v tale_n as_o i_o can_v never_o true_o have_v believe_v it_o if_o i_o have_v not_o find_v it_o by_o my_o own_o experience_n and_o i_o do_v persuade_v myself_o full_o notwithstanding_o all_o his_o hypocritical_a word_n and_o protestation_n which_o be_v more_o and_o often_o repeat_v by_o he_o then_o in_o all_o the_o writer_n together_o that_o i_o have_v read_v in_o my_o life_n that_o there_o be_v scarce_o one_o whole_a story_n in_o that_o huge_a volume_n tell_v by_o himself_o except_o when_o he_o relate_v other_o man_n word_n out_o of_o record_n and_o thereby_o be_v bind_v to_o the_o formality_n thereof_o f●lsifyinge_v but_o that_o it_o be_v falsify_v and_o pervert_v one_o way_n or_o other_o either_o in_o the_o beginning_n middle_a or_o end_n by_o add_v cut_v of_o conceal_v false_a translate_n wrong_a cite_n or_o cunning_a juggle_n and_o falsification_n which_o i_o do_v not_o speak_v for_o any_o tooth_n against_o the_o man_n that_o be_v dead_a and_o who_o i_o never_o know_v but_o in_o respect_n of_o truth_n only_o and_o of_o so_o many_o deceive_v soul_n as_o be_v in_o danger_n to_o perish_v by_o his_o deludinge_v they_o nor_o when_o i_o speak_v of_o master_n fox_n his_o falsehood_n do_v i_o make_v account_n of_o any_o error_n or_o oversight_n though_o never_o so_o gross_a that_o be_v find_v in_o he_o as_o to_o reckon_v some_o for_o martyr_n that_o be_v alive_a at_o the_o make_n of_o his_o book_n for_o this_o he_o excuse_v in_o his_o late_a edition_n in_o that_o he_o be_v deceive_v by_o false_a information_n nor_o do_v i_o urge_v that_o other_o be_v make_v calendar-martyr_n by_o he_o who_o he_o can_v gainsay_v but_o that_o they_o be_v malefactor_n and_o some_o of_o they_o either_o 1._o mad_a or_o deny_v christ_n himself_o and_o yet_o place_v he_o they_o in_o his_o calendar_n for_o saint_n these_o escape_v i_o say_v be_v not_o here_o to_o be_v urge_v by_o i_o now_o but_o rather_o in_o another_o place_n the_o point_n that_o i_o for_o the_o present_n accuse_v he_o of_o be_v wilful_a corruption_n and_o falsification_n that_o can_v be_v excuse_v as_o among_o other_o thing_n and_o for_o example_n sake_n when_o he_o recite_v any_o point_n in_o controversy_n of_o the_o catholic_n doctrine_n he_o put_v it_o down_o common_o in_o plain_a contrary_a word_n &_o sense_n to_o that_o which_o he_o must_v needs_o know_v that_o they_o hold_v and_o teach_v for_o so_o much_o as_o their_o public_a book_n be_v extant_a in_o every_o man_n hand_n to_o testify_v the_o same_o of_o this_o kind_n leaf_n a_o certain_a learned_a student_n of_o divinity_n bring_v to_o i_o of_o late_o 30._o place_n take_v out_o of_o two_o only_a leaf_n of_o fox_n his_o book_n to_o wit_n from_o the_o 12._o to_o the_o 14._o which_o i_o look_v upon_o find_v they_o all_o most_o evident_a by_o conference_n of_o the_o catholic_a author_n allege_v by_o the_o say_a student_n and_o moreover_o beside_o these_o thirty_o i_o do_v discover_v so_o many_o other_o plain_a falsehood_n and_o manifest_v wilful_a lie_n in_o those_o only_o two_o leaf_n as_o may_v well_o england_n double_a the_o former_a number_n and_o i_o do_v offer_v to_o prove_v they_o one_o by_o one_o if_o any_o friend_n of_o john_n fox_n will_v join_v issue_n with_o i_o upon_o this_o point_n and_o then_o if_o by_o arithmetic_n a_o man_n will_v multiply_v these_o lie_n &_o falsification_n of_o two_o leaf_n only_o with_o a_o thousand_o and_o more_o which_o fox_n have_v in_o this_o last_o volume_n and_o will_v add_v afterward_o to_o every_o two_o leaf_n so_o many_o falsehood_n the_o number_n will_v rise_v to_o so_o huge_a a_o account_n as_o be_v a_o shame_n to_o set_v down_o and_o will_v much_o surpass_v john_n sley●ans_v story_n in_o this_o kind_n though_o he_o be_v the_o protestant_n protochronicler_n out_o of_o which_o a_o eleven_o thousand_o lie_n be_v only_o gather_v by_o the_o catholic_a writer_n of_o germany_n liar_n and_o this_o be_v so_o much_o as_o for_o the_o present_a seem_v needful_a to_o be_v say_v about_o this_o matter_n the_o end_n of_o the_o relation_n there_o follow_v the_o defence_n a_o defence_n of_o the_o precedent_n relation_n against_o the_o shift_n calumniation_n and_o tergiversation_n as_o well_o of_o the_o l._n plessis_n himself_o and_o some_o of_o his_o hugonote_n in_o france_n as_o of_o their_o proctor_n o._n e._n in_o england_n the_o preface_n concern_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o act_n set_v forth_o in_o france_n the_o former_a relation_n be_v set_v down_o whole_o and_o entire_o as_o it_o be_v print_v in_o the_o year_n 1600._o though_o somewhere_o more_o explain_v and_o towards_o the_o end_n make_v s●orter_n i_o be_o first_o to_o yield_v a_o reason_n in_o this_o place_n why_o the_o passage_n or_o point_n accuse_v of_o falsehood_n that_o be_v handle_v in_o the_o conference_n ensue_v not_o here_o as_o they_o do_v in_o the_o former_a edition_n whereof_o the_o cause_n be_v for_o that_o those_o passage_n indeed_o be_v never_o see_v or_o view_v by_o the_o relator_n himself_o but_o add_v only_o by_o a_o friend_n as_o in_o the_o preface_n thereof_o be_v signify_v according_a to_o his_o write_v copy_n receive_v from_o paris_n which_o copy_n though_o it_o agree_v in_o truth_n and_o substance_n with_o the_o public_a act_n themselves_o of_o that_o conference_n which_o afterward_o have_v be_v authentical_o 〈◊〉_d forth_o yet_o for_o that_o the_o point_n be_v not_o so_o clear_o lay_v open_a as_o some_o man_n perhaps_o will_v require_v i_o have_v think_v good_a to_o relate_v the_o same_o again_o in_o this_o my_o defence_n out_o of_o the_o say_v act_v
cyrill_n be_v not_o find_v in_o he_o leave_v it_o easy_a to_o the_o hearer_n say_v he_o to_o infer_v that_o the_o sense_n notwithstanding_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o he_o which_o be_v a_o great_a untruth_n for_o that_o the_o sentence_n register_v by_o all_o 4._o secretarye_n comprehend_v the_o whole_a passage_n in_o these_o word_n 72._o the_o passage_n cite_v by_o mounseur_fw-fr plessis_n out_o of_o cyrill_n be_v not_o find_v in_o cyrill_n which_o sentence_n contain_v as_o you_o see_v both_o sense_n and_o word_n and_o it_o be_v a_o poor_a shift_n of_o plessis_n to_o go_v about_o to_o help_v himself_o by_o so_o childish_a a_o inference_n as_o for_o that_o they_o give_v sentence_n that_o the_o word_n allege_v by_o he_o be_v not_o in_o cyrill_n it_o may_v be_v infer_v that_o the_o sense_n be_v after_o this_o the_o bishop_n show_v diverse_a other_o gross_a untruth_n in_o this_o kind_n as_o namely_o that_o in_o reportinge_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o chancellor_n depravation_n and_o deputye_n upon_o the_o last_o place_n examine_v out_o of_o theodorete_n about_o idol_n he_o false_o pervert_v the_o same_o leave_v out_o the_o principal_a important_a word_n of_o the_o say_a sentence_n to_o wit_n adore_v by_o paynim_n and_o adore_v for_o god_n contrary_a to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o record_n themselves_o uniformal_o take_v by_o all_o 4._o secretarye_n &_o then_o again_o to_o excuse_v himself_o from_o a_o foul_a disgrace_n happen_v in_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o first_o place_n about_o the_o real_a presence_n out_o of_o scotus_n 65._o who_o text_n plessis_n can_v not_o read_v he_o tell_v in_o his_o discourse_n this_o notable_a lie_n that_o the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr have_v use_v a_o certain_a fraudulent_a sleight_n to_o disgrace_v he_o which_o be_v to_o bring_v two_o edition_n of_o scotus_n the_o one_o fair_a to_o be_v read_v which_o he_o send_v he_o overnight_o with_o the_o 60._o place_n to_o prepare_v himself_o the_o other_o he_o retain_v with_o he_o of_o a_o evil_a print_n which_o he_o obtrude_v to_o he_o in_o the_o conference_n but_o this_o shameless_a fiction_n the_o bishop_n refute_v first_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o they_o that_o bring_v back_o again_o the_o book_n from_o plessis_n house_n to_o the_o conference_n and_o then_o by_o the_o witness_n of_o 4._o several_a french_a gentleman_n refute_v to_o wit_n mounseur_fw-fr du_fw-fr bertant_fw-la du_fw-fr beaulien_n du_fw-fr berulle_n and_o du_fw-fr salettes_n that_o come_v with_o he_o from_o paris_n &_o know_v that_o he_o bring_v but_o one_o only_a edition_n of_o scotus_n with_o he_o which_o be_v in_o folio_n of_o the_o print_n of_o badius_n ascensius_n in_o the_o year_n 1519._o and_o lend_v unto_o he_o by_o the_o college_n of_o sorbone_n in_o paris_n for_o this_o conference_n which_o book_n be_v give_v to_o plessis_n to_o verify_v his_o place_n allege_v out_o of_o he_o he_o can_v not_o so_o much_o as_o read_v nor_o turn_v the_o book_n for_o that_o there_o be_v some_o abreviation_n therein_o after_o the_o manner_n of_o schooledoctor_n and_o thereby_o all_o the_o looker_n on_o and_o hearer_n well_o perceive_v that_o he_o be_v utter_o ignorant_a in_o read_v schooledoctor_n though_o every_o where_o for_o ostentation_n of_o learning_n he_o be_v accostomed_a to_o cyte_v they_o in_o his_o book_n and_o this_o shame_n plessis_n have_v no_o other_o way_n to_o cover_v at_o that_o present_a before_o all_o the_o auditor_n but_o to_o say_v that_o he_o be_v not_o practise_v but_o in_o his_o own_o book_n only_o though_o afterward_o upon_o more_o deliberation_n he_o think_v good_a to_o devise_v this_o other_o shift_n of_o changinge_v the_o book_n by_o the_o bishop_n which_o yet_o be_v so_o malicious_o convince_v of_o calumniation_n by_o the_o witness_n before_o mention_v do_v exceed_o tend_v to_o plessis_n discredit_n and_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o the_o first_o point_n of_o plessis_n reply_n wherein_o you_o see_v that_o for_o defence_n of_o his_o 9_o place_n before_o convict_v of_o falsification_n he_o utter_v 9_o other_o great_a untruth_n for_o doublinge_v the_o number_n as_o for_o the_o other_o two_o point_n of_o new_a shift_n and_o recrimination_n discourse_n i_o will_v remit_v the_o reader_n to_o the_o bishop_n his_o own_o refutation_n for_o they_o that_o understand_v the_o french_a tongue_n and_o for_o the_o rest_n it_o will_v not_o be_v hard_a to_o guess_v by_o example_n of_o this_o which_o we_o have_v allege_v what_o manner_n of_o stuff_n it_o be_v which_o plessis_n can_v allege_v for_o his_o further_a defence_n in_o so_o manifest_a convince_a falsification_n and_o you_o shall_v hear_v present_o what_o o._n e._n in_o england_n can_v say_v for_o he_o and_o if_o you_o find_v he_o by_o this_o little_a a_o man_n with_o out_o faith_n or_o spirit_n of_o truth_n in_o his_o assertion_n then_o shall_v it_o be_v wisdom_n to_o beware_v not_o only_o of_o this_o his_o book_n against_o the_o mass_n wherout_a so_o many_o falsification_n have_v be_v gather_v but_o of_o other_o also_o write_v in_o the_o same_o spirit_n and_o namely_o of_o one_o that_o for_o many_o year_n have_v go_v in_o english_a entitle_v of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v smothe_o write_v and_o stuff_v out_o with_o great_a show_n and_o ostentation_n of_o scripture_n father_n history_n and_o other_o such_o furniture_n have_v dazzle_v the_o eye_n of_o many_o as_o do_v also_o this_o other_o against_o the_o mass_n until_o it_o be_v sift_v and_o examine_v by_o learned_a man_n but_o for_o the_o other_o in_o english_a i_o can_v assure_v the_o reader_n that_o it_o be_v a_o most_o deceytfull_a book_n and_o may_v be_v well_o brother_n to_o this_o against_o the_o mass_n church_n and_o it_o be_v now_o very_a near_o twenty_o year_n go_v that_o the_o late_a earl_n of_o leicester_n give_v one_o of_o they_o to_o a_o kinsman_n of_o he_o name_v guildford_n to_o read_v for_o his_o satisfaction_n in_o religion_n who_o confer_v the_o same_o with_o another_o learned_a gentleman_n a_o friend_n of_o i_o desire_v that_o it_o may_v be_v examine_v which_o my_o say_a friend_n begin_v to_o do_v with_o such_o commodity_n of_o book_n as_o he_o can_v procure_v at_o that_o time_n and_o find_v so_o full_o stuff_v with_o all_o kind_n of_o deceatfull_a imposture_n and_o falsification_n as_o he_o remain_v astonish_v thereat_o and_o confer_v the_o same_o with_o a_o learned_a baron_n of_o the_o realm_n now_o dead_a and_o he_o with_o another_o yet_o live_v and_o near_o to_o his_o majesty_n person_n who_o do_v all_o wonder_n at_o so_o notorious_a treachery_n though_o th'examen_n pass_v not_o through_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o book_n for_o that_o it_o be_v interrupt_v by_o some_o trouble_n fall_n to_o the_o examiner_n but_o he_o have_v affirm_v many_o time_n since_o and_o do_v at_o this_o day_n that_o it_o be_v incredible_a to_o believe_v what_o corrupt_v dealing_v there_o be_v therein_o and_o exhort_v all_o those_o that_o have_v mean_n to_o try_v the_o truth_n of_o this_o his_o assertion_n which_o i_o can_v do_v at_o this_o present_a for_o that_o i_o have_v not_o the_o book_n by_o i_o yet_o i_o think_v it_o convenient_a to_o give_v a_o note_n thereof_o for_o stayinge_v of_o they_o that_o have_v or_o may_v be_v deceive_v thereby_o and_o for_o styrringe_a up_o of_o other_o to_o make_v this_o examen_fw-la and_o so_o for_o this_o time_n we_o leave_v plessis_n to_o himself_o and_o to_o his_o shift_n in_o france_n and_o shall_v pass_v over_o to_o consider_v what_o o._n e._n his_o advocate_n can_v say_v for_o he_o in_o england_n what_o o._n e._n otherwise_o mathew_n sutcliffe_n have_v write_v for_o defence_n of_o plessis_n mornay_n concern_v the_o 9_o place_n handle_v in_o the_o former_a conference_n and_o how_o he_o commit_v far_o great_a fault_n than_o plessis_n himself_o chap._n v._n have_v peruse_v what_o monsieur_n plessis_n have_v be_v able_a to_o say_v for_o himself_o both_o in_o the_o conference_n and_o after_o upon_o better_a deliberation_n we_o must_v now_o examine_v brief_o what_o our_o old_a friend_n o._n e._n for_o under_o that_o vizard_n he_o mask_v hitherto_o have_v divise_v for_o his_o defence_n for_o that_o my_o foresaid_a brief_a relation_n fall_n into_o his_o hand_n he_o think_v it_o to_o appertain_v to_o his_o manhood_n as_o a_o martial_a minister_n to_o proclaim_v himself_o champion_n in_o plessis_n quarrel_n thereby_o to_o fulfil_v the_o proverb_n that_o none_o so_o bold_a as_o blind_a bayard_n and_o though_o he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o defend_v his_o own_o head_n as_o after_o you_o shall_v see_v from_o the_o same_o or_o like_a blow_n which_o plessis_n have_v receive_v yet_o will_v he_o needs_o be_v do_v &_o intrude_v himself_o for_o a_o shield_n to_o the_o other_o and_o this_o with_o such_o violence_n or_o rather_o virrulency_n of_o speech_n rage_v and_o ravinge_v at_o all_o those_o
base_a and_o unworthy_a adversaries_n pleasure_n be_v say_v he_o to_o contend_v with_o i_o about_o certain_a small_a quyrk_n and_o question_n about_o certain_a pretend_a untruth_n and_o falsification_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o your_o honour_n shall_v perceive_v the_o great_a weakness_n of_o our_o adversaries_n and_o the_o poverty_n of_o the_o principal_a actor_n in_o the_o same_o who_o abandoninge_v the_o main_n point_v in_o controversy_n begin_v now_o to_o pick_v quarrel_n at_o word_n allegation_n point_n quotation_n and_o other_o by-matter_n and_o cease_v to_o join_v with_o we_o and_o like_o divine_n to_o argue_v and_o dispute_v fall_v to_o plain_a calumniation_n and_o rail_n thus_o he_o and_o here_o again_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o the_o lord_n umpire_n will_v laugh_v to_o hear_v sutcliffe_n account_n the_o falsification_n of_o father_n doctor_n and_o ancient_a writer_n and_o this_o both_o in_o word_n &_o sense_n allege_v they_o express_o against_o their_o own_o meaning_n to_o be_v but_o quirk_n quarrel_n and_o question_n about_o word_n point_n quotation_n and_o other_o such_o by-matter_n as_o if_o two_o contend_v about_o some_o great_a inheritance_n and_o the_o one_o obiectinge_v that_o his_o adversary_n have_v falsify_v the_o evidence_n whereby_o the_o whole_a controversy_n must_v be_v try_v the_o other_o shall_v answer_v that_o these_o be_v but_o quirk_n and_o by-matter_n and_o this_o be_v the_o account_n which_o master_n sutcliffe_n and_o his_o people_n do_v make_v of_o false_a or_o true_a dealing_v or_o changinge_v choppinge_v alter_v or_o pervertinge_v the_o author_n who_o they_o allege_v as_o it_o make_v best_a for_o their_o purpose_n but_o we_o on_o the_o contrary_a side_n must_v here_o profess_v as_o man_n bind_v to_o strict_a truth_n be_v that_o we_o esteem_v high_o of_o these_o matter_n not_o only_o in_o chief_a point_n of_o controversy_n the_o belief_n whereof_o concern_v our_o soul_n but_o even_o in_o less_o matter_n also_o for_o that_o they_o discover_v a_o bad_a mind_n &_o wicked_a conscience_n whersoever_o they_o be_v find_v witting_o and_o willing_o comit_v and_o yet_o be_v not_o we_o so_o rigorous_a in_o this_o point_n but_o that_o we_o do_v easy_o allow_v unto_o master_n sutcliffe_n that_o which_o in_o this_o epistle_n to_o sir_n robert_n he_o demand_v for_o himself_o say_v do_v what_o a_o man_n can_v yet_o may_v ●ther_o marginal_a note_n be_v misplace_v or_o word_n stand-disorder_o or_o thing_n be_v mistake_v this_o i_o say_v we_o easy_o grant_v neither_o be_v there_o ever_o i_o think_v any_o controversy_n hitherto_o between_o we_o about_o misplacinge_n of_o marginal_a note_n or_o disorderly_a stand_a of_o word_n so_o they_o alter_v not_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o author_n which_o yet_o it_o have_v please_v master_n sutcliffe_n disorderly_a to_o bring_v in_o to_o the_o end_n he_o may_v seem_v that_o the_o accusation_n lay_v against_o he_o be_v for_o such_o trifle_n but_o neither_o these_o trifle_n nor_o the_o mistakinge_a of_o matter_n themselves_o so_o it_o be_v without_o fraud_n be_v urge_v by_o we_o against_o they_o but_o only_o where_o wilful_a deceit_n be_v evident_a and_o where_o the_o deceaver_n can_v moral_o be_v think_v to_o have_v be_v ignorant_a of_o his_o deceit_n these_o i_o say_v be_v the_o fault_n which_o we_o object_n unto_o master_n sutcliffe_n and_o his_o fellow_n and_o not_o misplace_v of_o marginal_a note_n or_o mistandinge_v of_o word_n point_n or_o quotaetion_n nay_o we_o may_v add_v a_o further_a degree_n of_o false_a dealing_v that_o have_v no_o excuse_n in_o the_o world_n which_o be_v falsification_n that_o where_o the_o falsehood_n be_v evident_a and_o can_v be_v deny_v nor_o by_o any_o probable_a mean_n defend_v yet_o not_o to_o confess_v the_o same_o nor_o to_o excuse_v it_o by_o ignorance_n forgetfulness_n trust_v upon_o other_o man_n or_o by_o any_o like_a error_n but_o to_o continue_v and_o bolster_v out_o the_o same_o by_o other_o sleight_n and_o new_a fraud_n this_o i_o say_v be_v the_o high_a degree_n of_o all_o falsehood_n and_o impudence_n &_o use_v as_o now_o you_o have_v see_v both_o by_o master_n plessis_n in_o his_o reply_n after_o his_o first_o confutation_n and_o much_o more_o by_o master_n sutcliffe_n his_o advocate_n in_o his_o break_a defence_n and_o the_o like_a we_o shall_v see_v practise_v again_o by_o he_o afterward_o in_o this_o chapter_n upon_o like_a occasion_n of_o defendinge_v himself_o and_o his_o own_o write_n concern_v which_o write_n he_o demand_v in_o his_o say_a epistle_n to_o sir_n robert_n cecil_n as_o also_o in_o his_o preface_n to_o the_o reader_n a_o certain_a privilege_n from_o the_o civil_a law_n which_o be_v that_o when_o diverse_a case_n be_v propose_v by_o one_o party_n in_o law_n to_o be_v admit_v or_o except_v against_o by_o the_o other_o and_o that_o the_o other_o except_v only_o against_o some_o and_o let_v pass_v the_o rest_n than_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v say_v the_o law_n that_o those_o which_o be_v not_o except_v against_o be_v admit_v which_o benefitt_a master_n sutcliffe_n will_v have_v allow_v to_o his_o challenge_n that_o be_v whereas_o e._n o._n have_v except_v only_o against_o some_o 26._o place_n of_o father_n and_o doctor_n corrupt_v and_o falsify_v by_o he_o all_o the_o rest_n beside_o these_o 26._o may_v be_v hold_v as_o free_v from_o corruption_n iur_fw-fr if_o lawyer_n say_v true_a say_v he_o that_o exception_n confirm_v the_o rule_n in_o case_n not_o except_v then_o have_v my_o adversary_n confirm_v the_o main_n discourse_n against_o person_n and_o his_o adherent_n have_v not_o say_v any_o thing_n unto_o it_o but_o only_o except_v against_o a_o few_o place_n whereof_o he_o take_v 13._o to_o be_v untrue_o allege_v and_o 13._o to_o be_v falsify_v and_o again_o in_o his_o preface_n to_o the_o reader_n if_o he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o except_v against_o more_o place_n than_o 26._o or_o there_o about_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o i_o have_v say_v true_a in_o the_o rest_n and_o that_o i_o have_v argue_v and_o allege_v authoritye_n to_o good_a purpose_n law_n so_o he_o and_o will_v not_o here_o our_o judge_n laugh_v again_o think_v you_o to_o see_v this_o poor_a man_n endeavour_v so_o diligent_o to_o authorise_v his_o book_n by_o the_o accusation_n of_o his_o adversary_n and_o by_o a_o privilege_n draw_v from_o the_o civil_a law_n the_o rule_n allege_v of_o exception_n do_v hold_v only_o where_o some_o few_o case_n be_v propose_v to_o be_v except_v against_o by_o the_o adverse_a party_n but_o it_o hold_v not_o in_o a_o main_n book_n where_o the_o point_n be_v many_o and_o almost_o infinite_a that_o be_v handle_v and_o propose_v and_o out_o of_o which_o be_v lawful_a for_o any_o accuser_n to_o take_v his_o accusation_n where_o he_o will_v without_o authorizinge_v or_o ratifyinge_v the_o rest_n and_o in_o our_o common_a law_n of_o england_n no_o man_n can_v be_v ignorant_a but_o that_o if_o one_o shall_v be_v accuse_v for_o example_n for_o stealinge_v of_o 5._o sheep_n and_o shall_v acquitte_v himself_o thereof_o yet_o this_o will_v not_o bar_v any_o other_o accuser_n that_o will_v afterward_o call_v he_o into_o trial_n for_o have_v steal_v fiftye_a more_o wherefore_o master_n sutcliffe_n can_v not_o shroud_v himself_o by_o this_o but_o that_o other_o man_n also_o may_v examine_v his_o challenge_n 9_o beside_o e._n o._n as_o we_o have_v see_v that_o vv._n r._n have_v do_v and_o gather_v out_o a_o infinite_a huge_a heap_n of_o untruth_n and_o if_o i_o guess_v not_o amiss_o not_o much_o less_o than_o a_o hundred_o in_o one_o chapter_n wherefore_o see_v sutcliffe_n be_v so_o earnest_a to_o provoke_v &_o entreat_v adversaries_n to_z write_v against_o he_o it_o be_v reason_n he_o prepare_v himself_o to_o answer_v all_o comer_n &_o not_o to_o slip_n away_o under_o the_o shadow_n of_o a_o civilian_n rule_n or_o privilege_n for_o so_o much_o as_o he_o be_v a_o englishman_n &_o consequent_o must_v be_v try_v by_o the_o common_a law_n of_o the_o land_n and_o this_o may_v suffice_v for_o this_o first_o part_n of_o his_o new_a work_n stand_a in_o epistle_n &_o preface_n except_o you_o will_v have_v a_o brief_a example_n represent_v you_o here_o at_o this_o very_a beginning_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o answer_v and_o shiftinge_v which_o he_o mean_v to_o use_v afterward_o in_o his_o whole_a discourse_n and_o thereby_o know_v the_o man_n &_o his_o talon_n even_o at_o his_o first_o entrance_n hear_v then_o how_o he_o answer_v a_o speech_n of_o his_o adversary_n touch_v the_o continuance_n of_o catholic_a religion_n reader_n my_o adversary_n say_v he_o call_v popish_a religion_n catholic_a &_o affirm_v it_o be_v plant_v here_o by_o gregory_n the_o great_a etc._n etc._n and_o that_o it_o be_v always_o visible_a since_o christ_n etc._n etc._n but_o he_o shall_v do_v well_o to_o show_v how_o true_a
two_o famous_a ●ookes_n m._n reynolds_n caluino●turcismus_n stanislaus_n rescius_fw-la de_fw-fr atheismis_n the_o 4._o reproach_n of_o heretic_n or_o open_o lyinge_v heretic_n call_v falsarij_fw-la by_o ancient_a father_n luther_n &_o other_o sectarye_n deny_v all_o father_n at_o the_o beginning_n luth._o in_o epist_n ad_fw-la equitem_fw-la germ._n a_o 1521._o luth._o count_n henr._n angl._n reg._n a_o 1522._o a_o new_a divise_n of_o late_a protestant_n about_o the_o father_n father_n pag._n 1549._o peter_n martyr_n disputation_n in_o oxford_n a_o 1549._o see_v these_o place_n examine_v part_n 3._o c._n 19_o &_o 20._o &_o 21._o of_o the_o treatise_n of_o 3._o counersion_n of_o england_n b._n ridley_n &_o bucers_n disputation_n in_o cambridge_v a_o 1549._o fox_n pag._n 1261._o the_o magdeburgian_o refute_v ridleyes_n vaunt_n of_o father_n b._n jewel_n hypocritical_a challenge_n at_o paul_n cross_n a_o 1560._o the_o meaning_n of_o m._n jewel_n cha●lge_v man_n convert_v by_o m._n jewel_n book_n to_o be_v catholik_o the_o l._n coplcy_n and_o his_o conversion_n from_o protestancy_n m._n jewel_n answer_v to_o the_o l._n copley_n m._n doctor_n steven_n m._n william_n reynolds_n m._n jewel_n book_n pretend_v to_o the_o tribunal_n of_o inquisition_n in_o rome_n rome_n this_o may_v appear_v by_o the_o treatise_n of_o 3._o conversion_n of_o england_n set_v ●orth_o in_o three_o tome_n john_n fox_n his_o f●lsifyinge_v f●lsifyinge_v see_v the_o story_n of_o collyns_n and_o co●bridge_n 10_o &_o 11._o octobris_fw-la part_n 1._o 30._o ●falsifications_n of_o fox_n in_o two_o leaf_n leaf_n now_o they_o be_v find_v to_o be_v quadruple_a to_o wit_n above_o ●20_n see_v part_n 3._o cap._n 22._o of_o the_o treatise_n of_o 3._o conversion_n of_o england_n sleida●_n a_o great_a liar_n the_o occasion_n of_o publishinge_v the_o acts._n discourse_v veritable_a etc._n etc._n act_n fol._n 100l_n see_v athanas_n in_o his_o apologyes●_n and_o s._n aug●_n 〈◊〉_d breviculo_fw-la the_o letter_n of_o the_o b_o of_o eureux_fw-fr to_o the_o k._n of_o france_n 29._o aug._n a_o 1600._o the_o first_o occasion_n of_o the_o conference_n act._n fol._n 1._o 1._o supra_fw-la cap._n 3._o the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr letter_n to_o the_o king_n act._n fol._n 5._o 5._o supra_fw-la cap._n 4._o no_o general_a dispute_n of_o religion_n to_o be_v permit_v without_o approbation_n of_o the_o supreme_a pastors●_n act_n fol._n 8._o 9_o 10._o the_o judge_n &_o deputye_n choose_v for_o ●oth_a side_n a_o new_a memorial_n of_o plessis_n contain_v 4._o point_n for_o new_a delay_n act._n pag._n 13._o 14._o 15._o 16._o 16._o supra_fw-la cap._n 3._o another_o delay_n seek_v by_o petition_n of_o monsieur_n plessis_n to_o the_o king_n act_n fol._n 21._o mounseur_fw-fr plessis_n threaten_v by_o the_o king_n act_n fol._n 17._o 18._o act_n fol._n 22._o a_o new_a agreement_n about_o the_o conference_n act_n fol._n 26._o a_o hypocritical_a protestation_n a_o new_a shift_n of_o plessis_n in_o choose_v out_o 19_o place_n the_o k._n great_a moderation_n the_o k._n &_o noble_n how_o they_o sit_v in_o the_o conference_n vict._n de_fw-fr vtic._n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr persetut_n vand._n l._n plessis_n speech_n &_o protestation_n act_n fol._n 31._o the_o bishop_n real_a dealing_v how_o scotus_n &_o durandus_fw-la come_v to_o be_v the_o first_o in_o ●●iall_n act._n fol._n 34._o two_o imposture_n scot._n 2._o scent_n do_v 1._o q._n 2._o scot._n in_o 4._o scent_n do_v 10._o q._n 1._o scot._n ibid._n the_o first_o shift_n of_o plessis_n to_o defend_v his_o imposture_n council_n lateran_n ●an_v 1._o the_o sentence_n against_o plessis_n act._n fol._n 52._o act._n fol._n 46._o a_o dishonourable_a imposture_n purand_n send_v li._n 4._o do_v 11._o q._n 1._o durand_n ibid._n math._n 19_o plessis_n take_v in_o two_o falfitye_n at_o once_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o first_o two_o place_n act_n of_o the_o conf_n fol._n 52._o jerem._n 15._o chrysost._n ●_o hom_n prima_fw-la in_o 1._o 〈◊〉_d thessaly_n chrysost._n ibid._n two_o imposture_n of_o plessis_n two_o vain_a leap_n of_o plessis_n to_o get_v out_o of_o the_o brack_n plessis_n conclude_v by_o the_o b._n and_o sentence_n give_v against_o he_o chrysost._n hom_n 5._o in_o math._n act_n fol._n 58._o chrysost._n ibid._n two_o or_o three_o escape_n of_o plessis_n stop_v by_o the_o b._n the_o k._n take_v the_o argument_n act_n fol._n ●o_o another_o poor_a shift_n of_o plessis_n act_n fol._n 64._o hier._n in_o ezech._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 14._o hier._n ibid._n wilful_a false_a dealing_v against_o s._n hierome_n act_n fol._n 69._o another_o shift_n of_o monsieur_n plessis_n a_o offer_n to_o prove_v 4._o new_a falsification_n against_o plessis_n in_o one_o page_n act_n fol._n 97._o cyril_n l._n 6._o contra_fw-la julian._n apostate_n the_o first_o prove_v against_o plessis_n a_o frivolous_a objection_n of_o plessis_n answer_v and_o return_v upon_o himself_o the_o k._n reply_n against_o plessis_n justin._n imper._n in_o authentde_fw-mi monachis_fw-la si_fw-mi quis_fw-la aedi●icari_fw-la act_n fol._n 72._o a_o deceytfull_a reply_n of_o plessis_n turn_v upon_o himself_o a_o reply_n of_o monsieur_n mercier_n the_o protestant_n secretary_n cyril_n l._n 6._o contra_fw-la julian._n the_o sentence_n against_o plessis_n act_n fol._n 76._o cod._n lib●●tit_fw-fr 8._o nemini_fw-la licere_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o egregious_a corruption_n council_n constantinop_n in_o trullo_n cap._n 73._o plessis_n either_o ignorant_a or_o strange_o malicious_a act_n fol._n 83._o s._n ansel._n accuse_v of_o impiety_n by_o plessis_n great_a falsehood_n in_o alleaginge_v s._n bernard_n a_o s●ift_n of_o plessis_n shake_v of_o by_o the_o b._n the_o sentence_n give_v against_o plessis_n act_n fol._n 96._o act_n fol._n 90._o 91._o 92._o the_o difference_n betwixt_o idol_n and_o image_n exod_n 25._o 3_o re●_n 6._o 1._o cor._n 11._o ●_o cor._n 3._o &_o 4._o coloss._n 1●_n theodor._n quaest_n 38._o in_o exod._n ●another_n shift_n t●●en_o away_o from_o p●essis_n p●essis_n orat._n de_fw-fr s._n barl●am_n barl●am_n orac._n in_o b._n theod._n theod._n in_o biblioth_n cap._n 52._o 52._o in_o he_o de_fw-fr s._n cassiano_n cassiano_n ad_fw-la s●uerum_fw-la sulpit_n many_o turn_n and_o wind_n of_o plessis_n act_n fol._n 105._o the_o conference_n reiourn_v till_o the_o next_o day_n a_o brief_a recapitulation_n of_o the_o sentence_n diverse_a chief_a protestant_n begin_v to_o think_v of_o their_o conversion_n conversion_n supra_fw-la cap._n 5._o what_o pass_v after_o the_o first_o conference_n end_v act_n fol._n 105._o a_o new_a offer_n of_o plessis_n for_o continue_v the_o conference_n but_o dure_v not_o plessis_n flee_v the_o conference_n and_o slip_v away_o from_o paris_n without_o take_v his_o leave_n of_o any_o plessis_n his_o new_a discourse_n tert._n the_o prescript_n adver_v haereses_fw-la haereses_fw-la supra_fw-la cap._n 1._o the_o conversion_n of_o mounseur_fw-fr du_fw-fr mont_fw-fr and_o of_o mounseur_fw-fr fresnes_n motyves_n of_o much_o consideration_n to_o the_o king_n majesty_n in_o this_o action_n how_o the_o k._n be_v abuse_v by_o hugonot●s_n whilst_o he_o be_v of_o their_o religion_n his_o majesty_n comfort_n in_o be_v a_o catholic_a hugonot_n convert_v in_o france_n by_o disclose_v heretical_a fraud_n &_o falsification_n letter_n relate_v diverse_a conversion_n of_o hugonot_n in_o france_n a_o wish_v that_o his_o majesty_n of_o england_n will_v permit_v the_o like_a trial_n three_o point_n of_o plessis_n reply_n necessitas_fw-la cogit_fw-la ad_fw-la turpia_fw-la the_o first_o point_n examine_v act_n and_o refut_n fol._n 108._o 1._o depravation_n sup._n cap._n 2._o place_n 5●_n 2._o depravation_n chrysost._n hom_n 26._o in_o cap._n 2._o cor._n &_o hom_n 66._o ad_fw-la pop_n antiochen_n a_o cufusion_n of_o plessis_n 3._o depravation_n discourse_n pag._n 36._o 4._o depravation_n discourse_n pag._n 46._o act_n fol._n 59_o 5._o depravation_n discourse_n pag._n 48._o 48._o suprae_fw-la cap._n 2._o loc_n 4._o act_n fol._n 69._o 6._o depravation_n discourse_n pag._n 49._o 7._o depravation_n discourse_n pag._n 50._o act_n fol._n 72._o 8._o and_o 9_o depravation_n discourse_n pag._n 60._o &_o 65._o a_o foolish_a calumniation_n refute_v the_o other_o 2._o point_n of_o plessis_n discourse_n a_o note_n of_o plessis_n mornay_n his_o book_n of_o the_o church_n three_o part_n of_o plessis_n defence_n defence_n suprae_fw-la cap._n 2._o act_n fol._n 34._o scot._n in_o 4._o scent_n do_v 10._o q._n 1._o o._n e._n in_o his_o refutation_n pag._n 12._o the_o 2._o first_o shift_n or_o startinge_v hole_n refut_n ib._n ib._n these_o two_o word_n be_v put_v in_o by_o o._n e._n sup._n cap._n 2._o refut_n ib._n pag._n 12._o sup._n cap._n 2._o pl._n 1._o scot._n in_o 4._o sent._n do_v 10._o q._n 1._o in_o refat_n ibid._n sutcliffe_n give_v quid_fw-la pro_fw-la quo_fw-la deceatfull_a dealing_v whither_o scotus_n hold_v transubstantiaton_n &_o how_o first_o objection_n 2._o objection_n scot._n 4._o in_o scent_n do_v 11._o q._n 3._o refutat_fw-la pag_n 12._o two_o rotorious_a lie_n scot._n in_o 4._o scent_n do_v