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reason_n he_o go_v away_o tacit_o accuse_v object_n 5_o slander_v yea_o virtual_o cast_v out_o and_o curse_v sure_o i_o be_o this_o be_v accuse_v slanderous_a and_o curse_a language_n ans_fw-fr 19_o deut_n 22._o â—_o 19_o not_o fit_a for_o a_o sober_a &_o grave_a man_n by_o that_o law_n in_o israel_n w._n r._n will_v go_v near_o to_o be_v amercy_v and_o stripe_v for_o this_o defamation_n what_o will_v he_o have_v they_o do_v when_o they_o can_v be_v satisfy_v with_o the_o ground_n of_o his_o departure_n must_v they_o needs_o act_v against_o light_n and_o conscience_n and_o say_v they_o be_v satisfy_v when_o they_o be_v not_o especial_o when_o they_o see_v a_o brother_n haply_o run_v into_o evil_n or_o danger_n by_o such_o a_o removal_n all_o they_o can_v do_v be_v through_o indulgence_n to_o suspend_v their_o vote_n and_o leave_v he_o to_o his_o own_o liberty_n and_o yet_o they_o will_v neither_o accuse_v or_o slander_v he_o much_o less_o curse_v he_o or_o cast_v he_o out_o these_o 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how_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o both_o these_o part_n shall_v be_v true_a can_v new-england_n church_n count_v the_o same_o man_n at_o the_o same_o time_n to_o be_v true_a christian_n and_o yet_o profane_a and_o wicked_a see_v what_o a_o story_n this_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o be_v thus_o full_a of_o contradiction_n to_o itself_o and_o in_o no_o small_a and_o trivial_a thing_n but_o in_o the_o great_a point_n of_o our_o church_n discipline_n he_o say_v again_o art_n 4._o 5._o that_o we_o say_v that_o the_o sacrament_n and_o some_o other_o church_n ordinance_n be_v to_o be_v administer_v and_o do_v belong_v only_o to_o the_o member_n of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o not_o to_o the_o member_n of_o any_o other_o church_n he_o speak_v flat_o contrary_a to_o this_o cap._n 10._o art_n 1._o in_o these_o word_n answ_n we_o grant_v that_o several_a church_n have_v a_o communion_n among_o themselves_o in_o some_o church-ordinance_n as_o sacrament_n how_o can_v both_o be_v true_a they_o 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