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A55518 A postscript of advice from Geneva to be added to each of Mr. Care's several volumes of Advice from Rome. Ignoramus. 1678 (1678) Wing P3024; ESTC P144 4,386 9

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the Puritans mild Defence faithfully extracted out of the Treatise of the Protestant private Spirit chap. 9. § 8. subdivis 4. viz. Vnder the Papacy men were Religious and given to the practice of good works but that the Professors of your Gospel relying on their Justification by only Faith are become careless of good works dissolute proud envious malicious disdainful covetous ambitious that your eyes ought to gush out with tears to behold the misery of your supposed Church the great Ignorance the superficial Worship of God the fearful Blasphemies and Swearing in houses and streets the dishonour of Superiours the Pride Cruelty Fornications Adulteries Drunkenness Covetousness Vsuries ond other like Abominations that Youth amongst you becomes daily less tractable and more bold to commit those Vices which in former times men of years knew not That instead of Fasting you have brought in Bibbing and Banqueting and instead of Praying Swearing And finally that you equal the Jews in Hypocrisie the Turks in Impiety and the Tartars in Iniquity And lastly your learned Brother Eberus in his Praefat. Coment Philip. in Ep. ad Cor. sticketh not to say That in regard of the enormous wickedness of your Ministry and Church any man may justly doubt whether you are the true Church Whoever desires to see more stuff of this nature may peruse a Book entituled Pasquil of England unto Ma●tin junior or the other of Pasquil and Marphorius and Dr. Sutcliff's Answer to a Libel supplicatory from which and several other Authors of that kind the ingenious Reader may easily collect how obvious and facile it is for any party to recriminate by raking in the Dunghil of personal errours and defects of former ages and exposing all he finds without regard either to the credit of Authors or falsity of their Assertions often contradicted by others of the same times of much better esteem and reputation and what scandal must necessarily follow thereupon to all Christians even to the introducing of Atheism and Infidelity as it happened on the like occasion to David George Professor at Bazil Bernardine Ochine a man highly commended by Calvin Neuserus chief Pastor of Heidelburgh Almanus a Zwinglian and some others who out of hatred to Popery and scandal taken at the Lives and Doctrines of their own fellow Reformers renounced Christianity and became Jews as you may see in Schusselburgh his Thelogia Calv. Osiander Cent. 16. From consideration of the great mischiefs and ill consequences of this way of exposing as Mr. Care is pleased to phrase it he or whoever else is the Author of The Weekly Pacquet of Advice from Rome may easily conclude what fruit or advantage he is like to reap from his laborious Collections more than the loss of his time and the exposing to the world his own malice and folly for Turpe est Doctori cum culpa redarguit ipsum SOME QUERIES For Mr. CARE to Chew Relating to His Ignoramus-Iuries I WHether or no Magna Charta and the rest of our Laws are more careful in preserving the Life and Reputation of the King or of the Subject If of the former II. Whether some men now in power must not think the Law-makers Fools or acknowledge themselves Knaves III. Whether if an Insurance-Office for Commonwealth-malefactors were set up the City security would not be the best IV. Whether the Money that us'd to be spent in Hospitality by City-Magistrates might not be laid out more to the Honour of the City in rewarding True-Protestant-Evidences and Ignoramus-Juries V. Whether some late Officers did not forbid Wine at their Tables lest their Friends drinking too much should tell truth VI. Whether a Perjur'd Pillory d Thief Begger Fool or Knave be not as good Evidence against a Whig as against a Papist VII Whether had it not been for People so qualified we had ever known of a Popish-Plot VIII Whether if the last Long Parliament had sate this time we had ever been bless'd with Narratives Ignoramus-Juries or True-Protestant-Informations IX Whether if the same Evidence should swear the same things against the Pope and against a True-Protestant-Peer a Jury by care and industry might not be pack'd to save his Holiness rather than lose a Friend X. Whether when Hell broke loose by Heavens permission upon this Protestant City the Devil did not employ the Whigs as well as the Papists Or XI Whether he did not reserve the former for greater purposes viz. to blow up the sparks of Rebellion and serve on Juries XII Whether if an Highway-man was to be tryed by a Jury of his own Gang they would not act more like brute Beasts than rational Creatures if they found the Bill XIII Whether there is not just ground for suspicion of Guilt in the Prisoner when his Friends are forc'd to pick up Jury-men contrary to custom from one end of the Town to the other XIV Whether he that made a Scandalous and Seditious Speech to say no worse of it publickly in the House of Peers may not be supposed to speak Treason privately XV. Whether some people who deserve not yet are sorry they have a Just and Merciful Prince XVI Whether if an Angel from Heaven should descend and testifie a Design by the Fanaticks against the Government this Scripture should not be brought to invalidate his Evidence Stand fast in the Liberty whereunto ye are called XVII Whether the same Jury would not upon the Devils Testimony find a Bill against another sort of People XVIII Whether a True Protestant believes Perjury to be a Sin XIX Whether if the Indictment against some late Criminals had been found and they Executed for the Treason therein contained viz. Conspiring the Death of the King a Vote of a late House of Commons had not been violated wherein 't is resolved That if the King come to any unnatural Death they will Revenge it on the Papists XX. Who is the Author of these Queries Ignoramus FINIS
A POSTSCRIPT OF Advice from GENEVA To be added to each of Mr. Care 's several Volumes of Advice from Rome Hanc maximam seu regulam habent Calvinistae licere pro gloria Christi mentiri Osiander in Epit. c. Centur pag. 796. TO go along with Mr. Care in his Method and Design of exposing the Papists I think it will be but a very necessary and equal piece of Justice to give the world an Abstract or short view of the Lives Deaths and Doctrines of some of the first and principal Reformers of the Calvinian or Puritan Sect In the doing whereof I shall purposely avoid the Testimony of any Popish Author and make use of others of great Reputation for Learning and Integrity To begin then with Mr. John Calvin as the principal Establisher of that Reformation in Geneva and several other places though the same had been set on foot before by Zwinglius who was slain in the Sedition occasioned by his Doctrine in those of Tigure and Berne against Rhodolf King of the Romans as Gualter confesseth in Apologia pro Zuinglio operibus ejus The Life and Death of John Calvin was writ by Hierom Bolseco Doctor of Physick who lived in Geneva with him and in the beginning of his Book printed Anno 1577. he makes this solemn Protestation I am here for the sake of Truth to refute Theodor Beza 's false and shameless Lies in the praise of Calvin protesting before God and the holy Court of Heaven before all the world and the Holy Ghost it self that neither Anger nor Envy nor Evil-will hath made me speak or write any one thing against the truth of my conscience But in regard that upon the scandal he took at the manner of Calvin's life he afterwards became a Catholick I shall rather choose to present the Reader with a short draught of it in the words of Conradus Schusselburgh a man of principal estimation in the Protestant Church and no less enemy to the Pope than was Calvin who in his Theologia Calvinistarum lib. 2. fol. 7. writes thus God in the Rod of his Fury visiting Calvin did horribly punish him before the fearful hour of his unhappy death for he so struck this Heretick so he termeth him in regard of his conceived Doctrine concerning the Sacrament and God's being the Author of Sin with his mighty Hand that being in despair and calling upon the Devil he gave up his wicked Soul Swearing Cursing and Blaspheming He died upon the Disease of Lice and Worms increasing in a most loathsom Vlcer about his Privy-parts so as none present could endure the stench These things are objected to Calvin by publick writing In which also horrible things are declared concerning his Lasciviousness his sundry abominable Vices and Sodomical Lusts for which last he was by the Magistrate at Noyon under whom he lived branded on the shoulder with a hot burning Iron Thus far writes Schusselburgh of Calvin Now as concerning Theodor Beza another principal Reformer of that Sect though his life be likewise written by Dr. Bolseke and his Book dedicated to the Magistrates of Geneva wherein he chargeth him with many great and hainous Imputations best known to themselves and that even in Beza's life-time purposely as he says he might be able to answer for himself Yet I shall wave his Testimony further than confirmed by other learned Protestants as Conradus Schusselburgh and Tilmannus Heshusius who charge him with writing those obscene and licentious Poems of his Candida Andebertus in which he debateth whether sin he may prefer and in the end concludeth with preferring the Boy before his Candida Orbi notum est quam salax fuit Beza qui publicatis poematibus paidastrias suas celebrare non erubuit Galliae probrum simoniacus sodomita omnibus vitiis coopertus As for John Bale Peter Martyr and Bucer with others of that Reformation they began with the breach of their solemn Vows of Obedience and Chastity flying from their Monasteries and marrying vow'd Nuns And as to other their enormous Actions and Doctrines I shall refer you to the two Books of dangerous Positions and a survey of the pretended Holy Discipline writ by Dr. Bancroft Archbishop of Canterbury and to Dr. Sutcliff his Answer to a Libel supplicatory out of whom I shall only present you with some few of their Doctrines viz. I. That Temporal Princes may not by Gods Law have Supreme Authority in the Church or Ecclesiastical matters but only their Presbytery II. That the People have the same power to punish put down and destroy Princes that offend that Kings and Princes have over any particular man III. That the Ministers of the Presbytery chosen by themselves may Excommunicate Arraign and Depose their Prince when they see him govern amiss IV. That the Ministers with the People may require of the King to have true Preachers And if he be negligent they may provide themselves and may maintain and defend them against him and all others and curb the King in his Excesses where need is V. That the whole Ecclesiastical Government of the Protestant Church now in England to wit by Bishops Archdeacons Deans and the like is unlawful wicked and Antichristian whereof ensueth that all Ministers ordained by them are unlawful and all their actions are only actions of meer Lay-men and consequently That they have no lawful publick Ministry at all VI. That all Ministers ordained by the Authority of the Bishops and coming afterwards to be of the Puritan Sect must renounce before the Presbytery and Classes his former Vocation and Ordination and take another by their Allowance and Imposition of Hands VII That the Parliament of England hath no Authority to meddle in matters of Religion nor to determine wha● Religion is to be admitted or not but only this belongeth to their Presbytery of Ministers VIII That they only are the true Church of God that be of this Presbytery and all other to be damn'd that are not of it For the horrid effects and consequences of these Doctrines we need not go to look for them into other Countries tho' all Modern Histories yield plentiful Examples our own Kingdom of England affords us too late and direful Remembrances of them and the barbarous Murther of the best of Kings occasioned thereby will never be forgotten Nor do I think that any Sect no not that of the Circumcellians themselves so terrible in old time and namely to St. Augustine either is or can be thought so perillous or pernicious to Kingdoms or Common-wealths as is this of the Puritans where they may have Power Now for a Conclusion instead of a Courant I shall give the Reader a short view of the great change in the general morality of Christians occasioned by the Doctrine and Practices of these pretended Zealous Reformers in the very words of their Brethren abroad as Luther Calvin Melancton Brutius Bucer Eberus Wigandus and divers others and at home of Mr. Jeffrey and Mr. Stubbs and