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A16643 A plaine confutation of a treatise of Brovvnisme, published by some of that faction, entituled: A description of the visible Church In the confutation wherof, is shewed, that the author hath neither described a true gouerment of the Church, nor yet proued, that outward discipline is the life of the Church. Whereunto is annexed an ansvvere vnto two other pamphlets, by the said factioners latelie dispersed, of certaine conferences had with some of them in prison. Wherein is made knowen the inconstancie of this sect, what the articles are which they still maintaine: as also a short confutation of them. There is also added a short ansvvere vnto such argumentes as they haue vsed to proue the Church of England not to be the Church of God. Alison, Richard, controversialist. 1590 (1590) STC 355; ESTC S100153 67,007 148

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in_o the_o place_n by_o themselves_o allege_v levit._n 20._o 24._o we_o do_v grant_v it_o for_o israel_n be_v there_o say_v to_o be_v separate_v from_o that_o heathen_a yet_o be_v it_o not_o separate_v from_o all_o unbeliever_n only_o it_o be_v in_o respect_n of_o their_o outward_a profession_n the_o assumption_n in_o the_o former_a sense_n be_v grant_v but_o otherwise_o it_o be_v evident_a to_o be_v a_o mere_a slander_n for_o neither_o be_v any_o receive_v into_o our_o church_n except_o they_o join_v with_o we_o in_o outward_a profession_n neither_o be_v their_o child_n baptize_v except_o the_o parent_n or_o some_o for_o the_o parent_n do_v promise_v to_o see_v they_o bring_v uppe_o in_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n and_o faith_n in_o christ_n jesus_n but_o they_o prove_v this_o assumption_n after_o this_o sort_n they_o be_v all_o say_v they_o by_o the_o blow_n of_o her_o majesty_n trumpet_n at_o her_o coronation_n hutchinson_n in_o one_o day_n receive_v without_o conversion_n of_o 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the_o corruption_n of_o their_o heart_n three_o that_o our_o ministry_n be_v antichristian_a a_o matter_n handle_v pag._n 125._o the_o scurrility_n in_o call_v they_o hireling_n mercenary_a preacher_n etc._n etc._n deserve_v no_o answer_n the_o name_n of_o parson_n vicar_n etc._n etc._n do_v not_o make_v a_o difference_n in_o the_o ministry_n but_o in_o their_o maintenance_n four_o we_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o popish_a court_n as_o high_a commission_n etc._n etc._n whereunto_o i_o answer_v that_o all_o these_o court_n have_v their_o authority_n from_o her_o majesty_n though_o some_o of_o they_o more_o direct_o than_o the_o other_o in_o consideration_n whereof_o to_o call_v the_o lest_o antichristian_a be_v arrogant_a but_o to_o join_v they_o all_o in_o one_o sentence_n &_o to_o dissuade_v her_o majesty_n subject_n from_o yield_a obedience_n unto_o any_o of_o they_o it_o will_v be_v find_v a_o act_n of_o no_o good_a subject_n yet_o for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o purpose_v not_o to_o 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23._o saying_n who_o sin_n soever_o you_o remit_v they_o be_v remit_v and_o who_o sin_n you_o retain_v they_o be_v retain_v as_o for_o the_o assumption_n it_o be_v most_o untrue_a for_o we_o have_v not_o only_o the_o power_n of_o god_n word_n which_o he_o have_v give_v unto_o his_o ministry_n to_o bind_v and_o to_o loose_v thereby_o but_o also_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n in_o respect_n of_o outward_a government_n i_o grant_v that_o every_o several_a congregation_n have_v not_o this_o power_n and_o i_o dare_v affirm_v that_o in_o no_o age_n it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o every_o several_a congregation_n have_v this_o authority_n but_o even_o in_o those_o church_n which_o have_v a_o eldership_n the_o same_o be_v not_o in_o every_o assembly_n but_o diverse_a congregation_n be_v order_v by_o one_o seniory_n therefore_o to_o say_v that_o because_o every_o private_a congregation_n have_v not_o this_o power_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o at_o all_o in_o the_o church_n be_v a_o childish_a kind_n of_o reason_v brownist_n these_o assembly_n cast_v out_o sathan_n by_o the_o power_n of_o sathan_n namely_o by_o these_o imp_n of_o antichrist_n the_o bishop_n commissary_n and_o priest_n therefore_o they_o be_v not_o and_o for_o all_o their_o reason_n several_a and_o join_v can_v be_v hold_v in_o any_o christian_a judgement_n the_o true_a church_n of_o christ._n answer_n in_o this_o last_o argument_n be_v grant_v unto_o we_o that_o which_o before_o be_v deny_v viz._n that_o our_o church_n have_v power_n of_o cast_v out_o but_o it_o fail_v in_o the_o manner_n for_o if_o they_o say_v true_a this_o power_n be_v not_o from_o christ_n but_o from_o the_o imp_n of_o antichrist_n etc._n etc._n unto_o which_o accusation_n i_o answer_v the_o end_n wherefore_o man_n be_v cast_v out_o from_o among_o we_o by_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n shall_v be_v that_o the_o offender_n by_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n may_v be_v bring_v unto_o repentance_n now_o for_o the_o order_n hereof_o the_o people_n be_v not_o in_o the_o weighty_a matter_n of_o the_o church_n to_o have_v their_o voice_n pag._n 47._o etc._n etc._n and_o a_o presbytery_n in_o every_o congregation_n can_v be_v have_v pag._n ●8_o therefore_o neither_o election_n ordination_n excommunication_n nor_o other_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v commit_v to_o every_o particular_a congregation_n as_o for_o this_o unchristian_a deal_n in_o condemn_v for_o antichristian_a whatsoever_o be_v not_o according_a to_o their_o humour_n it_o have_v be_v often_o answer_v some_o defect_n there_o be_v in_o our_o government_n we_o challenge_v no_o perfection_n some_o corruption_n there_o be_v oftentimes_o in_o such_o as_o have_v the_o order_n of_o it_o i_o defend_v not_o all_o but_o in_o this_o i_o will_v be_v resolve_v if_o we_o by_o the_o power_n of_o satan_n cast_v out_o satan_n by_o what_o power_n do_v they_o cast_v out_o