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A47160 A narrative of the proceedings of George Keith at Coopers-Hall in the city of Bristol, the 14th day of August 1700, in detecting the errors of Benjamin Cool, and his brethren the Quakers at Bristol which were read before a great auditory of ministers and other citizens and inhabitants : and divers other memorable passages between him and the Quakers at Bristol, particularly a dialogue at Coopers-Hall between a Quaker cobler and G. Keith, and another dialogue between some Quakers and G. Keith at B. Cool's house in Bristol : together with some of the chiefest Quotations out of the books of B. Cool and W. Penn, read at the same place, the same day / by George Keith. Keith, George, 1639?-1716. 1700 (1700) Wing K185; ESTC R25716 12,132 31

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Errors C. Harford And art thou not now of the Church of England G. Keith Yes C. Harford And art thou not now in an Error G. Keith I know no Error that I am in if I err in any thing I do it not knowingly the best of Men may be in an Error in some small matter that will not hinder their Salvation tho' they Dye in it In my changes from Presbyterian to Quaker and from Quaker to the Church of England I reckon I was still a Christian holding all along the Fundamentals of Christianity and being preserv'd from my Childhood from all Scandalous things by the Grace of God tho' I acknowledge I was but a Weak Christian and so I think my self still a Weak Christian C. Harford I will prove from thy own Words that thou art in Error still G. Keith Prove it then C. Harford Dost thou not joyn with the Church of England in her Prayers that thou dost Err and Stray like a Lost Sheep G. Keith I know no such Words of Prayer that the Church of England useth At this he and his Brethren Stranged whereupon I took the Common Prayer out of my Pocket and Read the Passage to them We have Erred and Strayed from thy Ways like Lost Sheep You see it is in the time past and not in the present We have Erred and we do Err are differing Said some of the Quakers Read on George and thou will find it in the present So I Read on till I came to the Words And there is no help for us What say'st thou to this George G. Keith There is a Place in Jeremiah that will help us to Understand this It is not in Man that Walketh to direct his Steps Jerem. 10. 23. What say ye to this Is not the Light in Man to Direct his Steps And do ye not say the Spirit is in you given you of God to direct your Steps So I say As there is no Light or Spirit in Man as of himself to direct his Steps but what true Light or Spirit he hath that directs him is not of himself but of God so what True Health is in us is not of our selves but of God as we cannot direct our selves without God so we cannot Heal our selves The Quakers generally blaming this Interpretation B. Cool said George is in the Right of it I own his Sence to be true Some alledging that it was not the Sence of the Church of England I bid them ask Mr. Bedford whether it was not her Sence and his as a Member and Minister of the Church of England who said it was I further told them they did not fairly by me to Upbraid me with my Changes and Apostacie unless they would prove that in any of my Changes I have departed from any Fundamental of the Christian Faith which I never did in any of my Changes Nor have my Changes been greater than many of the Quakers and some of you have had more Changes than I ever had and have gone through all the several Professions among Protestants as Episcopal Presbyterian Independant Anabaptist and Quaker and why should I be more Upbraided with my Changes than Richard Claridge with his who first was a Benefic'd Man in the Church of England than an Anabaptist and now a Quaker some of them said But I changed for Money which I Positively denyed and withal told them that I had less Money now than when I was a Quaker some of them said I had it in reverse or to that purpose Which False and Groundless Insinuations I did not think worth while to Answer And it is very great Impudence in them to object either against me or others in the Church of England for having a Living supposing I had as at present I have none Seeing they know well enough that many of the Quakers Preachers are grown Rich by their Preaching and the ready way to get Money is to turn Preacher among the Quakers Witness B. Cool who from a Poor Lad that wrought at the Loom as some of his Brethren has told him as I am informed is become worth many hundreds and the Itinerant Preachers among the Quakers who mostly have not of their own to bear their Charges are largely supplyed out of the Common Fund And G. Fox the Quakers great Apostle who mightily Pleaded that Ministers should work with their Hands yet after he turned the Quakers Apostle he wholly left off his Trade of Shooe-making and never either made or mended a Shooe after that time and Dyed Considerably Rich Note Reader Whereas in the end of my discourse with them I had told them my Error when I was a Quaker First In denying Baptism and the Supper Secondly in mis-applying divers places of Scripture to prove some true things Thirdly in my being over-charitable to the Quakers and uncharitable to all other Protestant Societies judging the Quakers the only visible Church of Christ All which three Errors I have Retracted in my Book of Retractations Printed three years ago And having compared them in my Ignorance to the highest round of the Ladder and the Church of England to the Lowest the Presbyterians Independents and Anabaptists in the middle making several removes from Popery which I counted as dreg and Earth from this I am informed that they have raised a report that I said to them The Church of Rome was the Foundation of the Church of England and all other Protestant Churches which I declare to be a horrid Slander as I can prove by sufficient Witnesses G. Keith Note also That after C. Harford had blamed me for Confessing my Sins with the Church of England and Praying for forgiveness of Sins I asked him and his Brethren if they had no Sins to Confess and ask forgiveness of God None of them would give me a positive Answer but said they held me not for their Father Confessor which is their ordinary evasion but by their blaming my joining with the Church of England to confess my Sins and ask forgiveness of Sin from God it is evident they hold they have no Sins to Confess or pray for the Forgiveness of And it is greatly worth Noticing that they are not heard in their Prayers in their Meetings to confess their Sins or to Pray Forgive us our Sins tho' some of late have been heard to say as I my self have heard some at London say in their Meeting Pardon them that have Sinned against thee As supposing some in the Meeting needed Pardon of Sin but the Preachers were such perfect Men that they needed no such Confession nor Prayer tho' Nehemiah and Daniel who were better Men than any Quaker did both Neh. 9. Dan. 9. Some other Memorable Passages Concerning the Quakers and G. Keith at Bristol 1. MR. Bedford Minister at the Temple at the beginning of the designed Conference did clear himself of an Aspersion cast upon him by a Quaker called John Dyer that the said John Dyer did affirm that he heard Mr. Bedford say in