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A33222 Several captious queries concerning the English Reformation first proposed by Dean Manby (an Irish convert) in Latin, and afterwards by T.W. in English, briefly and fully answered by Dr. Clagett. Clagett, William, 1646-1688. 1688 (1688) Wing C4399; ESTC R27257 28,726 51

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this_o unseen_a effect_n be_v that_o which_o prevail_v with_o they_o to_o their_o ruin_n remember_v therefore_o if_o you_o please_v that_o our_o first_o parent_n be_v deceive_v by_o give_v a_o easy_a assent_n to_o a_o confident_a boaster_n and_o bold_a promiser_n of_o supernatural_a effect_n and_o from_o expect_v more_o from_o such_o assurance_n than_o what_o they_o can_v have_v be_v lead_v to_o by_o the_o most_o full_a information_n of_o their_o sense_n remember_v this_o i_o say_v and_o then_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o eucharist_n as_o you_o shall_v see_v convenient_a read_v the_o text_n again_o and_o then_o tell_v i_o why_o you_o say_v that_o the_o serpent_n deceive_v they_o by_o persuade_v they_o to_o believe_v their_o own_o eye_n rather_o than_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o why_o you_o give_v this_o instance_n of_o it_o as_o if_o it_o be_v his_o argument_n that_o they_o shall_v eat_v of_o the_o tree_n of_o knowledge_n because_o it_o be_v fair_a to_o the_o eye_n the_o truth_n be_v the_o serpent_n set_v up_o his_o own_o glorious_a promise_n against_o the_o threaten_n of_o the_o almighty_a and_o in_o this_o we_o know_v he_o have_v be_v well_o imitate_v and_o if_o he_o have_v not_o wrought_v more_o upon_o they_o by_o their_o hope_n and_o credulity_n than_o by_o evidence_n of_o sense_n for_o though_o they_o see_v that_o the_o fruit_n be_v pleasant_a to_o the_o eye_n we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o think_v they_o will_v have_v taste_v it_o have_v they_o not_o be_v delude_v with_o the_o expectation_n of_o be_v as_o god_n his_o attempt_n of_o deceive_a may_v have_v be_v as_o vain_a as_o you_o be_v in_o this_o query_n quer._n whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v not_o changeable_a according_a to_o the_o various_a inclination_n of_o english_a parliament_n sect._n 20_o answ_n changeable_n as_o how_o i_o pray_v for_o this_o one_o word_n changeable_a split_v the_o query_n into_o i_o know_v not_o how_o many_o query_n unless_o you_o have_v tell_v we_o as_o to_o what_o the_o church_n of_o england_n may_v or_o may_v not_o be_v change_v according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o english_a parliament_n for_o instance_n the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v at_o present_a the_o church_n establish_v by_o law_n and_o if_o you_o ask_v whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n with_o respect_n to_o legal_a establishment_n be_v not_o changeable_a according_a to_o the_o various_a inclination_n of_o english_a parliament_n include_v as_o i_o hope_v you_o do_v the_o pleasure_n of_o the_o sovereign_n then_o without_o all_o doubt_n english_a parliament_n may_v change_v the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o we_o hope_v they_o will_v not_o do_v it_o but_o if_o by_o change_a the_o church_n of_o england_n you_o mean_v that_o parliament_n can_v make_v the_o religion_n profess_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o become_v a_o false_a religion_n when_o their_o inclination_n be_v once_o vary_v from_o we_o than_o i_o tell_v you_o that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v not_o 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