Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
england_n	book_n	church_n	religion_n	2,750	5	5.6458	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A12592	A godly treatise containing and deciding certaine questions, mooued of late in London and other places, touching the ministerie, sacraments, and Church Whereunto one proposition more is added. After the ende of this booke you shall finde a defence of such points as M. Penry hath dealt against: and a confutation of many grosse errours broched in M. Penries last treatise. Written by Robert Some Doctor of Diuinitie.	Some, Robert, 1542-1609.; Penry, John, 1559-1593. Defence of that which hath bin written in the questions of the ignorant ministerie, and the communicating with them.	1588 (1588)	STC 22909; ESTC S117654	118,250	200

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may_v be_v ashamed_a of_o it_o chap._n 10._o i._o penry_n the_o godly_a do_v sin_n which_o do_v communicate_v with_o unpreach_v minister_n reason_n because_o they_o communicate_v with_o those_o who_o be_v no_o minister_n r._n some_o you_o have_v be_v liberal_a in_o charge_v i_o to_o beg_v the_o question_n it_o be_v your_o fault_n in_o this_o place_n you_o affirm_v that_o unpreach_a minister_n be_v no_o minister_n i_o deny_v it_o it_o be_v very_o strange_a to_o i_o that_o you_o will_v account_v ignorant_a levitical_a priest_n lawful_a priest_n and_o deny_v unpreach_v minister_n to_o have_v any_o call_n if_o you_o be_v indifferent_a you_o will_v serve_v they_o both_o alike_o i._o penry_n they_o can_v be_v assure_v to_o receive_v a_o sacrament_n at_o their_o hand_n r._n some_o yourself_o deny_v not_o that_o they_o be_v the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v deliver_v by_o unpreach_v minister_n if_o they_o be_v the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v administer_v i_o be_o sure_a first_o that_o they_o be_v 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