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and_o ability_n be_v but_o qualification_n fit_v and_o prepare_v for_o a_o call_v or_o office_n according_a to_o 1_o tim._n 3._o tit._n 1._o reply_n we_o ready_o acknowledge_v it_o but_o yet_o if_o a_o few_o godly_a person_n shall_v call_v for_o the_o employment_n of_o these_o gift_n to_o their_o spiritual_a edification_n the_o man_n who_o be_v qualify_v with_o these_o gift_n be_v not_o only_o fit_v and_o prepare_v for_o a_o call_v or_o office_n but_o actual_o call_v unto_o office_n at_o least_o to_o preach_v the_o word_n unto_o they_o though_o not_o to_o administer_v the_o covenant_n or_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n but_o only_o to_o they_o and_o their_o seed_n who_o yield_v profess_v subjection_n to_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n jesus_n if_o any_o through_o ignorance_n or_o infirmity_n proceed_v further_o in_o their_o administration_n i_o do_v believe_v the_o repentance_n of_o the_o minister_n for_o sin_n
be_v not_o local_a remoovall_n from_o former_a pollution_n nor_o contrary_a practice_n that_o fit_v we_o for_o fellowship_n with_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n but_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a also_o that_o we_o do_v repent_v of_o such_o former_a pollution_n wherewith_o we_o have_v be_v defile_v and_o enthrall_v 2._o we_o grant_v further_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o church-fellowship_n that_o we_o shall_v see_v and_o discern_v all_o such_o pollution_n as_o do_v so_o far_o enthrall_v we_o to_o antichrist_n as_o to_o separate_v we_o from_o christ_n but_o this_o we_o profess_v unto_o you_o that_o wherein_o we_o have_v reform_v our_o practice_n therein_o we_o have_v endeavour_v unfeigned_o to_o humble_v our_o soul_n for_o our_o former_a contrary_n walk_v if_o any_o through_o hypocrisy_n be_v want_v herein_o the_o hide_a hypocrisy_n of_o some_o will_v not_o prejudice_v the_o sincerity_n and_o faithfulness_n of_o other_o nor_o the_o church-estate_n of_o all_o this_o though_o the_o examiner_n do_v rehearse_v it_o here_o in_o this_o chapter_n yet_o here_o he_o answer_v nothing_o to_o it_o though_o it_o be_v the_o very_a hinge_n of_o the_o controversy_n if_o we_o meet_v with_o any_o answer_n to_o it_o in_o the_o sequel_n we_o shall_v god_n will_v consider_v of_o it_o in_o its_o place_n only_o let_v i_o add_v this_o three_o thing_n to_o clear_v the_o state_n of_o the_o controversy_n more_o full_o that_o to_o this_o day_n we_o do_v not_o see_v nor_o discern_v that_o it_o be_v any_o antichristian_a pollution_n at_o all_o for_o a_o member_n of_o any_o of_o our_o church_n go_v over_o into_o england_n to_o hear_v the_o word_n preach_v by_o a_o well-gifted_n minister_n in_o the_o parish_n assembly_n to_o chap._n xi_o in_o this_o chapter_n the_o examiner_n propound_v a_o second_o three_o four_o and_o five_o reason_n to_o prove_v that_o which_o i_o deny_v not_o to_o wit_n that_o a_o necessity_n lie_v upon_o godly_a man_n before_o they_o can_v be_v fit_a matter_n for_o 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speak_v of_o in_o the_o sequel_n to_o his_o second_o argument_n i_o will_v therefore_o answer_v that_o as_o a_o holy_a altar_n and_o temple_n to_o god_n can_v not_o have_v be_v build_v to_o god_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o babylon_n but_o the_o builder_n must_v come_v local_o out_o of_o babel_n to_o build_v it_o in_o jerusalem_n so_o a_o church_n of_o christ_n can_v be_v build_v to_o god_n but_o by_o such_o builder_n as_o spiritual_o come_v out_o of_o antichristian_a pollution_n and_o invention_n at_o least_o out_o of_o such_o pollution_n as_o keep_v they_o still_o in_o babel_n and_o detain_v they_o under_o antichrist_n and_o separate_v they_o from_o christ_n to_o his_o three_o argument_n i_o will_v grant_v all_o that_o he_o say_v in_o it_o to_o be_v true_a but_o how_o he_o appli_v it_o to_o infer_v his_o conclusion_n he_o neither_o express_v nor_o be_v it_o easy_a for_o i_o to_o gather_v if_o his_o meaning_n be_v that_o luther_n and_o other_o godly_a person_n may_v not_o be_v receive_v 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argument_n be_v take_v from_o a_o famous_a passage_n as_o he_o call_v it_o of_o a_o solemn_a question_n put_v to_o i_o and_o to_o the_o other_o new-english_a elder_n unto_o which_o i_o with_o the_o rest_n do_v answer_v negative_o that_o if_o godly_a person_n come_v over_o hither_o do_v refuse_v to_o submit_v to_o our_o way_n of_o worship_n and_o government_n that_o then_o they_o can_v not_o only_o not_o enjoy_v church-fellowship_n together_o but_o not_o be_v permit_v to_o breath_n and_o live_v in_o the_o same_o common_a air_n and_o commonwealth_n together_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v 1._o that_o it_o be_v suitable_a to_o his_o wont_a boldness_n to_o affirm_v that_o of_o i_o which_o be_v more_o than_o he_o know_v and_o indeed_o more_o than_o be_v truth_n for_o though_o he_o say_v that_o mr._n cotton_n and_o the_o new_a english_a elder_n return_v that_o answer_n yet_o the_o answer_n to_o that_o question_n and_o to_o all_o the_o other_o thirty-two_a question_n be_v draw_v up_o by_o mr._n mader_n and_o neither_o draw_v up_o nor_o send_v by_o i_o nor_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v by_o the_o other_o elder_n here_o though_o publish_v by_o one_o of_o our_o elder_n there_o howsoever_o the_o substance_n of_o that_o answer_n not_o which_o mr._n williams_n rehearse_v but_o which_o mr._n mader_n return_v do_v general_o suit_n with_o all_o our_o mind_n as_o i_o conceive_v 2._o in_o particular_a the_o answer_n which_o our_o reverend_a and_o belove_a brother_n mr._n mader_n do_v return_v unto_o that_o question_n i_o have_v read_v it_o and_o do_v ready_o approve_v it_o as_o i_o do_v the_o substance_n of_o all_o his_o answer_n to_o be_v judicious_a and_o solid_a but_o this_o i_o must_v needs_o profess_v that_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o question_n be_v notorious_o slander_v and_o abuse_v by_o the_o examiner_n for_o 1._o there_o be_v no_o word_n at_o all_o in_o that_o answer_n that_o deni_v permission_n to_o such_o godly_a person_n to_o live_v and_o breath_n in_o the_o same_o air_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n let_v the_o answer_n be_v peruse_v it_o be_v too_o long_o for_o i_o to_o transcribe_v the_o book_n be_v public_o extant_a and_o obvious_a and_o see_v if_o there_o be_v a_o syllable_n sound_v that_o way_n 2._o in_o that_o answer_n he_o distinguish_v out_o of_o mr._n cartwright_n and_o mr._n parker_n touch_v matter_n of_o church_n discipline_n and_o make_v some_o to_o be_v the_o substantial_a and_o immutable_a other_o of_o a_o more_o accidental_a and_o circumstantial_a nature_n in_o the_o former_a he_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o we_o and_o all_o the_o godly_a minister_n in_o england_n shall_v accord_v if_o they_o be_v here_o as_o believe_v that_o either_o we_o shall_v satisfy_v they_o in_o our_o way_n or_o they_o we_o in_o they_o so_o as_o there_o will_v never_o be_v question_n whether_o we_o shall_v embrace_v one_o another_o as_o sister-churche_n in_o the_o latter_a to_o wit_n in_o matter_n circumstantial_a we_o be_v all_o teach_v of_o god_n placide_n far_o aliud_fw-la sentientes_fw-la 3._o when_o the_o examiner_n make_v it_o his_o own_o case_n not_o to_o be_v permit_v to_o live_v and_o breath_n in_o the_o same_o air_n and_o commonwealth_n though_o mr._n cotton_n and_o other_o most_o incense_a give_v he_o a_o testimony_n of_o godliness_n etc._n etc._n let_v he_o be_v please_v to_o look_v back_o to_o what_o have_v be_v former_o lay_v open_a and_o he_o will_v find_v this_o instance_n of_o himself_o whole_o impertinent_a for_o the_o cast_n of_o he_o out_o of_o the_o commonwealth_n spring_v not_o from_o his_o difference_n in_o matter_n of_o church_n discipline_n it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o while_o he_o live_v at_o salem_n he_o neither_o admit_v nor_o permit_v any_o church-member_n but_o such_o as_o reject_v all_o communion_n with_o the_o parish_n assembly_n so_o much_o as_o in_o hear_v of_o the_o word_n
those_o word_n come_v out_o of_o babel_n my_o people_n local_a separation_n be_v intend_v yet_o when_o he_o add_v lest_o you_o be_v partaker_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d her_o sin_n i_o believe_v spiritual_a separation_n be_v much_o more_o require_v and_o local_a separation_n as_o a_o mean_v the_o better_a to_o attain_v that_o end_n of_o spiritual_a separation_n from_o partake_v in_o her_o sin_n which_o may_v also_o clear_a the_o meaning_n of_o the_o text_n and_o the_o fraud_n of_o the_o examiner_n for_o the_o word_n be_v not_o as_o he_o allege_v they_o come_v out_o of_o babel_n my_o people_n partake_v not_o of_o her_o sin_n for_o so_o the_o latter_a part_n may_v be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o explanation_n of_o the_o former_a come_v out_o of_o babel_n may_v be_v all_o one_o with_o partake_v not_o of_o her_o sin_n but_o the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n be_v come_v out_o of_o she_o my_o people_n that_o you_o be_v not_o partaker_n of_o her_o sin_n which_o plain_o argue_v that_o come_v out_o of_o babel_n local_o be_v a_o mean_n to_o prevent_v partake_v in_o her_o sin_n spiritual_o it_o be_v true_a which_o he_o say_v the_o lord_n jesus_n have_v break_v down_o all_o difference_n of_o place_n joh._n 4._o and_o all_o difference_n of_o person_n act_n 10._o to_o wit_n in_o regard_n of_o ceremonial_a pollution_n or_o ceremonial_a holiness_n but_o if_o he_o think_v there_o be_v no_o difference_n between_o one_o city_n or_o country_n more_o than_o another_o in_o moral_a pollution_n of_o idolatry_n &_o superstition_n unrighteousness_n and_o uncleanness_n he_o make_v himself_o a_o great_a stranger_n both_o to_o the_o word_n and_o to_o the_o world_n than_o i_o do_v think_v he_o have_v be_v the_o two_o cause_n of_o god_n indignation_n against_o england_n which_o he_o sugge_v be_v worthy_a due_a consideration_n and_o attention_n i_o will_v rather_o say_v amen_o to_o they_o then_o weaken_v the_o weight_n of_o they_o only_o i_o shall_v so_o assent_v to_o the_o latter_a 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term_n i_o accord_v to_o chap._n xvi_o his_o 16_o chapter_n be_v take_v up_o in_o examine_v and_o answer_v the_o exposition_n which_o my_o letter_n give_v of_o that_o text_n former_o allege_v 2_o cor._n 6.14_o 15_o 16._o of_o which_o i_o say_v 1._o that_o the_o text_n only_o require_v come_v out_o from_o idolater_n in_o the_o fellowship_n of_o their_o idolatry_n no_o marriage_n be_v they_o to_o make_v with_o they_o no_o feast_n be_v they_o to_o hold_v with_o they_o in_o the_o idol_n temple_n no_o intimate_a familiarity_n be_v they_o to_o maintain_v with_o they_o nor_o any_o fellowship_n be_v they_o to_o keep_v with_o they_o in_o the_o unfruitful_a work_n of_o darkness_n and_o this_o be_v all_o which_o the_o place_n require_v but_o what_o make_v all_o this_o to_o prove_v that_o we_o may_v not_o receive_v such_o person_n to_o church-fellowship_n as_o ourselves_o confess_v to_o be_v godly_a and_o who_o do_v profess_o bewail_v and_o renounce_v all_o know_a sin_n and_o will_v renounce_v 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