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A71279 A compendious discourse on the Eucharist with two appendixes. R. H., 1609-1678. 1688 (1688) Wing W3440A; ESTC R22619 186,755 234

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policy_n a_o evil_a ingredient_n in_o church-matter_n but_o neither_o indeed_o be_v they_o either_o political_a expedient_a or_o lawful_a for_o certain_o it_o be_v not_o good_a policy_n 1._o to_o introduce_v such_o a_o division_n into_o the_o nation_n which_o at_o the_o beginning_n raise_v commotion_n and_o civil_a war_n in_o several_a part_n of_o the_o kingdom_n 2._o to_o introduce_v antimonarchical_a principle_n and_o such_o opinion_n as_o manifest_o oppose_v the_o kingly_a government_n by_o unh_v their_o conscience_n and_o diminish_v the_o power_n of_o the_o clergy_n which_o as_o long_o as_o it_o be_v incorporate_v into_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o great_a body_n of_o the_o church_n do_v and_o will_v always_o have_v be_v able_a to_o maintain_v the_o power_n of_o the_o king_n and_o set_n up_o the_o power_n of_o the_o people_n make_v they_o judge_n of_o matter_n of_o religion_n thereby_o exempt_n they_o from_o the_o government_n of_o the_o clergy_n by_o who_o they_o may_v be_v and_o be_v keep_v in_o obedience_n to_o god_n and_o their_o sovereign_n no●_n be_v the_o alteration_n lawful_a because_o not_o make_v by_o the_o lawful_a ecclesiastical_a magistrate_n or_o agreeable_a to_o the_o rest_n of_o god_n church_n but_o a_o erect_v a_o altar_n against_o a_o altar_n a_o sacramentary_a zuinglian_a table_n against_o the_o altar_n of_o god_n in_o his_o holy_a church_n and_o consequent_o make_v a_o breach_n upon_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o expose_v those_o who_o consent_n to_o they_o to_o the_o great_a wrath_n of_o almighty_a god_n and_o hazard_v of_o their_o own_o salvation_n another_o argument_n of_o the_o change_n of_o the_o doctrine_n be_v the_o omission_n of_o divers_a ceremony_n very_o significant_a of_o if_o not_o necessary_a unto_o the_o perfection_n of_o this_o sacrament_n as_o first_o the_o omission_n of_o take_v the_o bread_n or_o patten_n into_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o consecrator_n be_v in_o itself_o a_o application_n of_o the_o word_n of_o 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to_o pass_v over_o etc._n etc._n but_o why_o be_v bishop_n forbes_n testimony_n pass_v over_o so_o unconcerned_o and_o instead_o of_o a_o answer_n to_o his_o assertion_n a_o obloquy_n leave_v on_o his_o name_n involve_v the_o whole_a family_n of_o reconciler_n do_v he_o not_o in_o that_o passage_n write_v his_o thought_n be_v his_o intention_n only_o a_o palliate_a or_o recommend_v of_o error_n and_o idolatry_n not_o a_o retrench_a the_o opinion_n and_o unjustifiable_a aggravation_n of_o those_o that_o affect_v extreme_n and_o through_o rage_n desert_n truth_n i_o always_o conceit_v the_o aim_n of_o that_o wise_a and_o moderate_a person_n and_o of_o other_o accommodator_n to_o have_v be_v the_o undisguise_n of_o doctrine_n and_o a_o representation_n of_o they_o in_o their_o proper_a lineament_n and_o habit_n but_o not_o a_o betray_n of_o truth_n to_o purchase_v a_o wicked_a peace_n henceforward_o therefore_o if_o this_o minister_n be_v regard_v whenever_o we_o hear_v a_o man_n speak_v of_o reconcilement_n we_o must_v double_v our_o guard_n and_o apprehend_v treachery_n but_o where_o be_v the_o bishop_n conscience_n and_o respect_n to_o piety_n if_o according_a to_o this_o minister_n to_o cement_v a_o rot_a union_n he_o condescend_v not_o only_o to_o relinquish_v his_o faith_n but_o also_o to_o establish_v a_o inexcusable_a idolatry_n for_o his_o word_n assert_v both_o a_o substantial_a presence_n on_o the_o holy_a table_n and_o a_o adoration_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n there_o present_a the_o presence_n he_o mean_v be_v such_o a_o one_o of_o which_o the_o more_o orthodox_n protestant_n do_v not_o doubt_v which_o the_o holy_a father_n very_o often_o mention_n and_o which_o the_o puritan_n gross_o err_v reject_v but_o the_o rigider_v protestant_n reject_v a_o substantial_a not_o a_o gracious_a presence_n so_o that_o the_o bishop_n sense_n will_v admit_v of_o no_o other_o evasion_n beside_o his_o be_v of_o the_o pacifick_n tribe_n which_o be_v it_o seem_v with_o this_o minister_n if_o not_o in_o maledictionibus_fw-la of_o no_o authority_n thus_o this_o impartial_a friend_n to_o truth_n whilst_o he_o shall_v weigh_v the_o argument_n consider_v the_o personal_a quality_n of_o a_o author_n and_o be_v carry_v for_o or_o against_o those_o as_o these_o affect_v or_o displease_v he_o pag._n 66._o l._n 1._o for_o bishop_n tailor_n i_o can_v acquit_v our_o author_n of_o a_o wilful_a prevarication_n etc._n etc._n nor_o i_o the_o answerer_n of_o folly_n for_o meddle_v with_o what_o he_o can_v no_o better_o discharge_v his_o business_n be_v to_o show_v either_o that_o bishop_n tailor_n have_v write_v no_o such_o passage_n as_o be_v cite_v out_o of_o his_o work_n or_o that_o his_o word_n be_v pervert_v from_o their_o literal_a sense_n by_o the_o discourser_n for_o to_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o same_o or_o another_o book_n sentence_n contradictory_n thereto_o will_v expose_v the_o bishop_n indeed_o but_o satisfy_v not_o the_o difficulty_n for_o the_o discourser_n no_o where_o undertake_v that_o dr._n taylor_n have_v not_o say_v and_o unsay_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o protestant_n and_o wit_n but_o that_o he_o have_v say_v what_o with_o any_o candour_n be_v incapable_a of_o any_o other_o meaning_n than_o be_v impose_v in_o the_o oxford_n treatise_n bucer_n advice_n to_o p._n martyr_n ut_fw-la dogma_fw-la sacramentarium_fw-la ambiguis_fw-la loquendi_fw-la formulis_fw-la involveret_fw-la and_o dr._n tailor_n be_v boasting_n and_o practice_n be_v too_o notorious_a to_o be_v insisted-on_a or_o for_o we_o to_o expect_v from_o so_o inconstant_a artificial_a and_o confident_a a_o writer_n other_o than_o that_o according_a as_o his_o humour_n or_o circumstance_n engage_v he_o shall_v sometime_o deliver_v himself_o plain_o sometime_o in_o affect_a and_o intricate_a term_n and_o never_o scruple_n contradict_v himself_o so_o he_o may_v procure_v a_o present_a relief_n when_o reduce_v by_o his_o cause_n or_o indiscretion_n to_o a_o strait_a this_o reply_n to_o this_o minister_n answer_n to_o dr._n tailor_n be_v testimony_n will_v serve_v for_o what_o be_v return_v pag._n 49._o 50._o to_o calvin_n and_o beza_n authority_n if_o other_o place_n contradictory_n can_v be_v pick_v out_o of_o their_o write_n yet_o that_o will_v not_o manifest_v that_o they_o in_o the_o sentence_n cite_v intend_v not_o a_o substantial_a presence_n but_o where_o do_v calvin_n say_v solum_fw-la beneficium_fw-la non_fw-la corpus_fw-la ipsum_fw-la the_o proposition_n contradictory_n to_o neque_fw-la tantum_fw-la beneficium_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la ipsum_fw-la be_v it_o not_o of_o this_o proposition_n that_o archbishop_n lawd_n say_v nor_o can_v that_o place_n by_o any_o art_n be_v shift_v or_o by_o any_o violence_n wrest_v from_o calvin_n true_a meaning_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n in_o and_o at_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n the_o archbishop_n be_v a_o puny_a in_o evasion_n and_o of_o a_o feeble_a spirit_n for_o what_o his_o acuteness_n can_v not_o contrive_v and_o his_o courage_n dare_v not_o attempt_v this_o minister_n have_v discover_v and_o adventure_v to_o perform_v even_o to_o shift_v off_o and_o wrest_v this_o place_n by_o some_o that_o say_v nothing_o different_a and_o by_o other_o that_o say_v nothing_o contradictory_n pag._n 69._o l._n 24._o and_o now_o i_o be_o afraid_a his_o cause_n will_v be_v desperate_a unless_o mr._n thorndike_n can_v support_v it_o the_o same_o course_n be_v take_v to_o answer_v mr._n thorndike_n as_o be_v follow_v to_o dismiss_v most_o of_o the_o precedent_n viz._n endeavour_v to_o oppose_v mr._n thorndike_n to_o himself_o this_o practice_n how_o useful_a and_o how_o frequent_o use_v soever_o it_o be_v by_o the_o answerer_n as_o wondrous_a sufficient_a yet_o be_v reject_v by_o he_o in_o parallel_a case_n and_o he_o take_v that_o liberty_n he_o disallow_v to_o such_o as_o have_v equal_a right_a to_o it_o with_o himself_o yet_o how_o will_v this_o rare_a controvertist_n vindicate_v mr._n thorndike_n from_o approve_v idolatry_n if_o he_o deny_v that_o learned_a man_n to_o hold_v a_o substantial_a presence_n for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o express_a for_o adoration_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o the_o eucharist_n than_o his_o word_n be_v i_o do_v believe_v that_o it_o adoration_n be_v practise_v and_o do_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n i_o know_v the_o consequence_n to_o be_v this_o that_o there_o be_v no_o just_a cause_n why_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v do_v at_o present_a etc._n etc._n whatever_o notion_n therefore_o mr._n thorndike_n have_v of_o our_o lord_n presence_n certain_o he_o maintain_v the_o presence_n of_o such_o a_o body_n as_o be_v adorable_a and_o that_o the_o adoration_n practise_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v not_o idolatry_n have_v thus_o copious_o discuss_v this_o point_n whether_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n concern_v the_o real_a presence_n be_v from_o queen_n elizabeth_n be_v day_n till_o the_o restauration_n of_o the_o last_o king_n for_o a_o substantial_a or_o but_o gracious_a presence_n and_o have_v ample_o demonstrate_v that_o a_o substantial_a presence_n be_v its_o faith_n and_o that_o as_o well_o its_o article_n communion-office_n and_o catechism_n as_o its_o supreme_a governor_n and_o most_o dignify_a and_o learn_v doctor_n be_v peremptory_a and_o full_a in_o the_o case_n for_o which_o the_o discourse_n contend_v one_o chief_a design_n of_o they_o be_v secure_v and_o defend_v and_o by_o this_o minister_n confession_n several_a point_n be_v gain_v as_o 1._o that_o of_o all_o man_n live_v the_o genuine_a son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n ought_v not_o to_o press_v we_o with_o such_o contradiction_n wherein_o their_o own_o opinion_n be_v equal_o involve_v pag._n 41._o l._n 18._o 2._o that_o it_o be_v no_o less_o a_o contradiction_n for_o christ_n natural_a body_n to_o be_v in_o several_a place_n at_o the_o same_o time_n by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n mode_n 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