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the_o king_n grant_v of_o any_o favour_n make_v contrary_a to_o law_n be_v void_a rex_fw-la nihil_fw-la potest_fw-la nisi_fw-la quid_fw-la jure_fw-la potest_fw-la and_o pag._n 210._o when_o all_o which_o the_o wisdom_n of_o all_o sort_n can_v do_v be_v do_v for_o the_o devise_v law_n in_o the_o church_n it_o be_v the_o general_a consent_n of_o all_o that_o give_v they_o the_o form_n and_o vigour_n of_o law_n without_o which_o they_o can_v be_v no_o more_o to_o we_o than_o the_o counsel_n of_o physician_n to_o the_o sick_a well_o may_v they_o seem_v as_o wholesome_a admonition_n and_o instruction_n but_o law_n can_v they_o never_o be_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n to_o be_v guide_v by_o they_o whereunto_o both_o nature_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n set_v down_o in_o scripture_n be_v find_v every_o way_n so_o full_o consonant_a that_o god_n himself_o will_v not_o impose_v no_o not_o his_o own_o law_n upon_o his_o people_n by_o the_o 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christian_n be_v chief_a governor_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v mean_v by_o head_n and_o p._n 218_o 223_o 224._o what_o power_n the_o king_n have_v he_o have_v it_o by_o law_n the_o bound_n and_o limit_n of_o it_o be_v know_v the_o entire_a community_n give_v order_n etc._n etc._n p._n 223._o as_o for_o they_o that_o exercise_n power_n altogether_o against_o order_n although_o the_o kind_n of_o power_n which_o they_o have_v may_v be_v of_o god_n yet_o be_v their_o exercise_n thereof_o against_o god_n and_o therefore_o not_o god_n otherwise_o than_o by_o permission_n as_o all_o injustice_n be_v p._n 224._o usurper_n of_o power_n whereby_o we_o do_v not_o mean_v they_o that_o by_o violence_n have_v aspire_v unto_o place_n of_o high_a authority_n but_o that_o use_v more_o authority_n than_o ever_o they_o do_v receive_v in_o form_n and_o manner_n aforementioned_a such_o usurper_n thereof_o as_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n do_v more_o than_o they_o have_v be_v authorize_v to_o do_v can_v in_o conscience_n bind_v any_o man_n to_o obedience_n ☜_o and_n pag._n 194._o may_v a_o body-politick_a then_o at_o all_o time_n withdraw_v in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n the_o influence_n of_o dominion_n which_o pass_v from_o it_o if_o inconvenience_n do_v grow_v thereby_o it_o must_v be_v presume_v that_o supreme_a governor_n will_v not_o in_o such_o case_n oppose_v themselves_o and_o be_v stiff_a in_o detain_v that_o the_o use_n whereof_o be_v with_o public_a detriment_n etc._n etc._n sir_n i_o do_v not_o by_o recite_v it_o dissent_v from_o every_o word_n that_o i_o cite_v but_o i_o be_o against_o mr._n hooker_n popular_a fundamental_o themselves_o and_o desire_v you_o to_o let_v i_o know_v whether_o these_o be_v the_o prelate_n principle_n which_o you_o defend_v and_o for_o a_o exposition_n of_o mr._n hooker_n remember_v that_o sir_n edwin_n sandys_n be_v his_o pupil_n and_o chief_a bosom-friend_n but_o you_o say_v you_o have_v read_v his_o book_n over_o 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