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A81826 Of the right of churches and of the magistrates power over them. Wherein is further made out 1. the nullity and vanity of ecclesiasticall power (of ex-communicating, deposing, and making lawes) independent from the power of magistracy. 2. The absurdity of the distinctions of power and lawes into ecclesiasticall and civil, spirituall and temporall. 3. That these distinctions have introduced the mystery of iniquity into the world, and alwayes disunited the minds and affections of Christians and brethren. 4. That those reformers who have stood for a jurisdiction distinct from that of the magistrate, have unawares strenghthened [sic] the mystery of iniquity. / By Lewis du Moulin Professour of History in the Vniversity of Oxford. Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680. 1658 (1658) Wing D2544; Thomason E2115_1; ESTC R212665 195,819 444

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which_o indeed_o overthrow_v all_o kind_n of_o excommunication_n for_o if_o the_o validity_n of_o a_o outward_a act_n depend_v upon_o the_o inward_a grace_n the_o validity_n of_o the_o act_n will_v be_v uncertain_a till_o doomsday_n to_o those_o that_o know_v not_o whether_o he_o that_o have_v pronounce_v the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n be_v endow_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n or_o no._n perkins_n go_v along_o with_o calvin_n upon_o the_o three_o of_o the_o revelation_n make_v all_o excommunication_n void_a which_o be_v not_o pronounce_v by_o one_o that_o have_v the_o spirit_n for_o say_v he_o to_o the_o society_n only_o of_o the_o regenerate_a and_o faithful_a be_v it_o say_v whatsoever_o you_o shall_v bind_v etc._n etc._n 9_o but_o be_v it_o so_o that_o every_o pastor_n excommunicate_v have_v receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n yet_o the_o validity_n of_o all_o excommunication_n can_v not_o be_v thence_o infer_v since_o even_o a_o man_n endow_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n except_o he_o have_v receive_v a_o spirit_n of_o divination_n may_v be_v ill_o inform_v and_o err_v ignorant_o ignorantia_fw-la facti_fw-la aut_fw-la juris_fw-la 10._o those_o that_o by_o bind_v and_o lose_v in_o heaven_n understand_v only_o approve_v of_o the_o sentence_n pass_v on_o earth_n have_v no_o strong_a plea_n for_o excommunication_n except_o all_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n be_v the_o product_n of_o a_o infallible_a judgement_n for_o god_n be_v so_o far_o from_o approve_v of_o a_o unjust_a sentence_n that_o his_o will_n be_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v disannul_v 11._o but_o how_o can_v it_o consist_v with_o reason_n that_o god_n at_o once_o shall_v ratify_v approve_v and_o dislike_v a_o sentence_n pronounce_v on_o earth_n for_o they_o will_v have_v he_o to_o ratify_v in_o heaven_n a_o unjust_a sentence_n pass_v on_o earth_n because_o they_o say_v his_o will_n be_v that_o the_o party_n shall_v stand_v to_o the_o sentence_n though_o unjust_a and_o not_o intrude_v to_o the_o sacrament_n without_o he_o be_v legal_o absolve_v and_o yet_o the_o while_n they_o say_v that_o god_n do_v not_o ratify_v or_o approve_v of_o a_o unjust_a excommunication_n because_o unjust_a so_o that_o at_o once_o the_o same_o sentence_n will_v be_v valid_a and_o invalid_a valid_a because_o legal_o pass_v yet_o invalid_a because_o unjust_a 12._o those_o that_o by_o bind_v and_o lose_v understand_v pardon_v and_o retain_v sin_n though_o they_o speak_v truth_n make_v the_o place_n matth._n 18._o v._n 18._o parallel_n to_o that_o of_o john_n 20._o v._o 22._o whatsoever_o sin_n etc._n etc._n yet_o they_o say_v nothing_o for_o excommunication_n which_o be_v neither_o pardon_v nor_o retain_v of_o sin_n it_o be_v not_o pardon_v for_o then_o excommunication_n must_v be_v count_v a_o blessing_n neither_o can_v it_o be_v retain_v of_o sin_n for_o since_o as_o they_o say_v the_o end_n of_o excommunication_n be_v that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v save_v retain_v of_o sin_n or_o rather_o of_o pardon_n can_v be_v a_o mean_n to_o that_o end_n 13._o since_o excommunication_n be_v a_o put_v out_o of_o the_o communion_n i_o will_v fain_o know_v whither_o that_o out_a be_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o a_o private_a church_n or_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_a visible_a church_n or_o else_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o saint_n which_o be_v speak_v of_o in_o the_o creed_n for_o i_o know_v but_o of_o these_o three_o communion_n if_o it_o be_v only_o a_o put_n out_o of_o the_o communion_n of_o a_o private_a church_n than_o a_o man_n excommunicate_v in_o one_o congregation_n or_o parish_n be_v not_o excommunicate_v in_o the_o neighbour_n church_n if_o it_o be_v a_o put_v out_o of_o the_o catholic_a visible_a church_n than_o a_o man_n excommunicate_v in_o london_n shall_v be_v likewise_o excommunicate_v in_o any_o part_n of_o the_o world_n and_o if_o the_o virtue_n of_o excommunication_n extend_v all_o over_o the_o world_n as_o indeed_o so_o it_o must_v be_v since_o it_o reach_v to_o heaven_n than_o any_o church_n or_o pastor_n of_o that_o communion_n whatsoever_o may_v excommunicate_v any_o one_o within_o that_o communion_n and_o a_o presbytery_n in_o scotland_n may_v excommunicate_v a_o man_n in_o switzerland_n and_o therefore_o it_o must_v not_o seem_v strange_a that_o the_o pope_n do_v excommunicate_a emperor_n and_o king_n since_o they_o be_v of_o his_o communion_n 14._o excommunication_n can_v be_v a_o put_v out_o of_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n and_o of_o the_o invisible_a church_n of_o which_o none_o be_v out_v but_o by_o his_o fall_n from_o grace_n 15._o neither_o can_v excommunication_n be_v a_o put_v out_o of_o a_o presbyterian_a church_n nor_o out_o of_o such_o a_o hierarchy_n as_o be_v late_o in_o england_n which_o be_v but_o mere_a politic_a system_n of_o many_o particular_a society_n either_o under_o the_o magistrate_n of_o the_o land_n or_o under_o a_o power_n of_o magistracy_n assume_v by_o common_a consent_n as_o be_v the_o body_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o france_n for_o then_o such_o a_o excommunication_n be_v rather_o like_o a_o banishment_n or_o deprivement_n of_o liberty_n than_o a_o spiritual_a censure_n which_o be_v no_o more_o bound_v and_o circumscribe_v by_o the_o limit_n of_o the_o magistrate_n than_o remission_n or_o retention_n of_o sin_n or_o the_o virtue_n of_o baptism_n be_v 16._o neither_o can_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o those_o word_n whatsoever_o you_o shall_v bind_v etc._n etc._n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o exclusion_n rather_o from_o the_o eucharist_n then_o from_o the_o assembly_n or_o from_o either_o and_o that_o there_o be_v great_a danger_n of_o corrupt_v good_a manner_n in_o receive_v the_o eucharist_n with_o a_o dissolute_a man_n then_o in_o converse_v with_o he_o when_o as_o quite_o contrary_a to_o eat_v with_o carnal_a and_o deboist_a person_n be_v a_o more_o contagious_a commerce_n then_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o eucharist_n with_o they_o 17._o neither_o can_v they_o infer_v out_o of_o that_o text_n whatsoever_o etc._n etc._n or_o any_o other_o whether_o a_o church_n a_o synod_n a_o presbytery_n whether_o one_o minister_n or_o two_o may_v excommunicate_v but_o if_o the_o power_n of_o excommunicate_v be_v include_v within_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o of_o bind_v &_o lose_v which_o we_o have_v make_v good_a to_o belong_v only_o to_o the_o dispenser_n of_o the_o word_n and_o not_o to_o church-member_n or_o to_o lay-elders_a it_o will_v necessary_o follow_v that_o one_o single_a pastor_n set_v over_o four_o or_o five_o thousand_o communicant_n must_v have_v power_n to_o excommunicate_v alone_o without_o the_o assistance_n of_o other_o minister_n for_o every_o single_a minister_n have_v receive_v entire_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o of_o bind_v and_o lose_v must_v needs_o also_o have_v receive_v ability_n to_o do_v whatsoever_o be_v include_v within_o that_o power_n 18._o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o christ_n do_v not_o speak_v of_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o man_n but_o of_o thing_n for_o he_o do_v not_o say_v whosoever_o but_o whatsoever_o and_o therefore_o our_o adversary_n the_o papist_n extend_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n further_o than_o the_o presbyterian_n do_v for_o they_o excommunicate_v not_o only_a man_n but_o any_o other_o live_v creature_n as_o mouse_n whereof_o thuanus_n have_v a_o notable_a example_n chapter_n xxx_o that_o excommunication_n be_v main_o subservient_fw-fr to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n that_o the_o corrupt_a of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o eucharist_n make_v way_n for_o excommunication_n i_o shall_v next_o show_v that_o excommunication_n be_v main_o subservient_fw-fr to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n but_o this_o i_o have_v handle_v at_o large_a in_o my_o paraenesis_n st._n paul_n say_v that_o in_o his_o time_n the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n begin_v to_o work_v satan_n be_v then_o very_o busy_a to_o infuse_v bad_a principle_n which_o first_o put_v forth_o themselves_o in_o the_o affectation_n of_o primacy_n and_o in_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o eucharist_n the_o laity_n have_v no_o hand_n in_o it_o for_o as_o minister_n have_v always_o be_v the_o principal_a channel_n to_o convey_v knowledge_n and_o grace_n when_o assist_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n so_o when_o god_n give_v they_o over_o to_o the_o guidance_n of_o their_o own_o spirit_n they_o have_v be_v still_o the_o only_a agent_n and_o instrument_n to_o bring_v in_o tyranny_n and_o heresy_n into_o the_o church_n the_o corruption_n then_o begin_v at_o the_o head_n &_o among_o the_o leader_n of_o flock_n their_o main_a care_n have_v be_v to_o set_v up_o themselves_o not_o only_o over_o the_o inheritance_n of_o the_o lord_n but_o also_o over_o their_o own_o fellow-labourer_n and_o colleague_n for_o the_o attain_n of_o which_o and_o to_o seem_v great_a in_o the_o eye_n of_o all_o man_n they_o