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A83380 The petition of the Lords and Commons, presented to His Majestie by the Earle of Stamford, Master Chancellour of the Exchequer, and Master Hungerford, April 18. 1642 Together with His Majesties answer thereunto.; Humble petition of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament presented to His Majestie at York, 18 April, concerning his message lately sent unto them touching his resolution of going into Ireland England and Wales. Parliament.; England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I). 1642 (1642) Wing E2179aA; ESTC R224956 6,818 17

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THE PETITION OF The LORDS and COMMONS PRESENTED To His Majestie By the Earle of Stamford Master Chancellour of the Exchequer and Master Hungerford April 18. 1642. Together with His MAjESTIES Answer thereunto LONDON Printed by ROBERT BARKER Printer to the Kings most Excellent Majestie And by the Assignes of JOHN BILL MDCXLII To the Kings most Excellent Majestie The humble Petition of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament May it please your Majestie YOur Majesties most loyall and faithfull Subjects the Lords and Commons in Parliament have duly considered the Message received from Your Majestie concerning Your purpose of going into Ireland in Your own Person to prosecute the warre there with the bodies of your English Subjects leavied transported and maintained at their charge which You are pleased to propound to us not as a matter wherein Your Majestie desires the advice of Your Parliament but as already firmly resolved on and forthwith to be put in execution by granting out Commissions for the leavying of two thousand foot two hundred horse for a guard for Your Person when You shall come into that Kingdom wherein we cannot chuse but with all reverence and humility to Your Majestie observe that You have declined Your great Councell the Parliament and varied from the usuall course of Your Royall Predecessours That a businesse of so great importance concerning the peace and safety of all Your Subjects and wherin they have a speciall interest by Your Majesties promise and by those great sums which they have disbursed and for which they stand ingaged should be concluded and undertaken without their advice Whereupon we hold it our duty to declare That if at this time Your Majestie shal go into Ireland You will very much endanger the safety of Your Royall Person and Kingdoms and of all other States professing the Protestant Religion in Christendom and make way to the execution of that cruell and bloudy Designe of the Papists every where to root out and destroy the reformed Religigion as the Irish Papists have in a great part already effected in that Kingdom and in all likelyhood would quickly be atempted in other places if the consideration of the strength and union of the two Nations of England and Scotland did not much hinder and discourage the execution of any such Designe And that we may manifest to Your Majestie the danger and misery which such a journey and enterprize would produce we present to Your Majestie the reasons of this our humble opinion and advice 1 YOur Royall Person will be subject not onely to the casualty of Warre but to secret practices and conspiracies especially Your Majestie continuing Your profession to maintain the Protestant Religion in that Kingdom which the Papists are generally bound by their vow to extirpate 2 It will exceedingly encourage the Rebels who doe generally professe and declare that Your Majestie doth favour allow their proceedings that this insurrection was undertaken by the Warrant of Your Commission and it will make good their expectation of great advantage by Your Majesties presence at this time of so much distraction in this Kingdom whereby they may hope we shall be disabled to supply the Warre there especially there appearing lesse necessity of Your Majesties Journey at this time by reason of the manifold successes which God hath given against them 3. It will much hinder and impair the meanes whereby this war is to be supported and increase the charge of it and in both these respects make it more in supportable to your Subject and this we can confidently affirme because many of the Adventurers who have already subscribed do upon the knowledge of your Majesties Intention declare their resolution not to pay in their money and others very willing to have subscribed do now professe the contrary 4. Your Majesties absence must necessarily very much interrupt the proceedings of Parliament and deprive your Subjects of the benefit of those further Acts of Grace and Justice which we shall humbly expect from your Majesty for the establishing of a perfect union and mutuall confidence betwixt Your Majesty and Your People and procuring and confirming the prosperity and happinesse of both 5. It will exceedingly increase the jealousies and fears of your people and render their doubts more probable of some force intended by some evil counsells neer Your Majesty in opposition of the Parliament and favour of the malignant party of this Kingdom 6. It will bereave your Parliament of that advantage whereby they were induced to undertake this war upon Your Majesties promise that it should be managed by their advice which cannot be done if Your Majestie contrary to their counsells shall undertake to order and govern it in Your own Person Upon which and divers other reasons we have resolved by the full and concurring agreement of both Houses that we cannot with discharge of our dutie consent to any Leavyes or raising of Souldiers to be made by Your Majesty for this your intended expedition into Ireland or to the payment of any Army or Souldiers there but such as shall be imployed and governed according to our advice and direction and that if such Leavyes shal be made by any Commission of Your Majesty not agreed to by both Houses of Parliament we shall be forced to interpret the same to be raised to the terrour of Your people and disturbance of the publike peace and hold our selves bound by the Laws of the Kingdom to apply the Authority of Parliament to suppresse the same And we do further most humbly declare That if Your Majesty shall by ill counsell be perswaded to go contrary to this advice of Your Parliament which we hope Your Majesty will not We do not in that case hold our selves bound to submit to any Commissioners which Your Majesty shall choose but do resolve to preserve and governe the Kingdom by the counsell and advice of Parliament for Your Majestie and Your Posteritie according to our Allegiance and the Law of the Land Wherefore we do most humbly pray and advise Your Majestie to desist from this your intended passage into Ireland and from all preparation of men and Armes tending thereunto and to leave the managing of that war to Your Parliament according to Your Majesties promise made unto us and Your Royall Commission granted under Your great Seal of England by advice of both Houses in prosecution whereof by Gods blessing we have already made a prosperous entrance by many defeats of the Rebels whereby they are much weakened and disheartened and have no probable meanes of subsistance if our proceedings shall not be interrupted by this interposition of Your Majesties Journey but that we may hope upon good grounds that within a short time without Hazard of Your Majesties person and so much dangerous confusion to Your Kingdoms which must needs ensue if you should proceed in this resolution we shall be enabled fully to vindicate Your Majesties right and authority in that Kingdom and punish those