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they came from a body of Rebells but from a people Catholick the King of England's Subjects and for such they were respected and vissited by the greatest Princes and Cardinalls in the Citty and foure of the gravest Cardinaells were deputed by Pope Innocentius to heare the two last as Caponi Spada Carassa and Pansirolli Cardinall Secretari and the afforsaid Bishop and noble Gentlemen were esteemed over all the Citty for good Catholicks good Subjects and able men and with other instructions received commaunds from theire Holliness to the people of Ireland to continue constant in the Catholick Religion and Loyalty to theire King Thus much I thought fitt to say by way of digression for Iustifying our warr that it was noe Rebellion and that this Argument of Orery the King call'd the warr of the Irish Catholicks a Rebellion ergo it is a Rebellion doth not hould It is true it is a received maxim that the King can wrong noe man The reason is because the King is the Fountain of Iustice and must be supposed not to have a will to wrong or offend any of his people But there is noe maxim that the King may not be informed by Evill men or Counsells to the Distruction of his People which hath been often done by statesmen and Counsellors who seek after theire owne interest more then the preservation of the people which is and ought to be the Kings principal care in this kinde the Lord Iustices in Ireland Persons and Burlase with a malignant part of the Kings Counsellors in the yeare 1641. informed his Majesty that the Catholicks of Ireland without discrimination had entred into a Rebellion when only some discontented men began a Revolution in the North and those as was generally spoken men of small estates and broken fortunes the Lords and Gentlemen of the other three Provinces and all the Catholick townes and Corporations having not taken arms untill forced thereunto for the necessary defence of theire estates and Religion as aboue hath been said I doe not heere accuse or excuse the first rysing in the North but I confidently affirme the nobles and Catholick Gentlemen in the other three Provinces and some of those in the North to that did not joyn with the first Rysing in that Province and all the Catholick Townes and Corporations lived in soe happy a state and soe opulent and rich that they would neuer abett a Revolution for gaining other mens estates it is alsoe well knowne that all those have bin still faithfull to the Crowne and theire Fathers before them as was well try'd in the warrs of Desmon Tyron and other smaller Revolutions Thus it happend that his Majesty grounded his opinion upon the information of foresaid Parsons Bnrlays and a mallignant part of the Counsell corrupt men who after fell from the King and adhered to the Kings Enemys the Rebellious Parlament Those represented the body of the Irish Catholick Rebells and the King deceived and deluded by this information call'd us Rebells and our just warr a Rebellion and to this day wee were not heard to speak for our selves and being unheard ought to be reputed innocent It is to be obserued that the first flame of the rising in the Noth had beene soon quenched had Parsons and those of the Councell given a Commission to the Marquis Of Ormond now Duke to raise five thousand men as hee demanded for that effect with him had gon alonge the Catholick Nobility and Gentlemen and soe they had made a speedy work of it But the plott of those Crooked Ministers of state was to involue all the Catholicks in the Bussiness and there by to finde a Cullor of confiscating theire estates Orery stays not here but puffed up with his great Fortune and a gall in Pupe tells the world in a supersilious manner That the birds of the ayre noe nor the flyes contributed less to his Majestys restauration then the Roman Catholicks in Ireland Orery this is to much this great contempt of the Catholicks coms from a great pride in you and what you say is very false for the harty prayres of the Catholicks though with steel they could contribute nothing being then unarmed and closed up in prisons by you and your Companions have more contributed to the Kings restauration then birds and fly's that want reason could Are wee bound to suffer this and other great contumiles from a man soe lowly discended as to tell us the whole Nation is a beast our Country a Pest-house and our Religion somthing that pinns us upon the Popes sleeve Shall wee indure all this from a man that hath bin esteemed one of Crumwells spyes to be a spy is an infamous office Orery if you are an Englishman as you would have your selfe to be and likwise the Duke of Ormond it is true the Duke was born in England and of an English Lady som say had hee bin born in Ireland hee had been kinder to the Nation and favoured them more then hee did upon the last settlement but his Forefathers have all of them beene borne in Ireland about four hundred and sixty years and the house had the Creation of Earle in King Edward the third's tyme anno Domini 1332. Orery you cannot say soe much for your selfe in the ranck of Nobility but be what you will English or Irish I will tell you what an English Gentlemen writes of you I have my selfe seen the man disguised under the name of William Allen in a most excellent piece stiled killing is noe Murther speaking therin of the quality's of a tyrant applying all to Crumwell of the fift quality hee speaks thus In all places they have theire spyes and delators that is they haue Fleetwoods theire Broughalls theire S. Iohns besides innumerable small spyes to appeare discontented and not to side with them that under that guise they may gett trust and make discoverys Orery in Crumwells tyme was Lord Broughalls This noble man hath used still against us his sword and penn but the latter hath made the deeper wound if men creditt his writings cannot hee live contented with a good patrimony his Father provided for him and agreat lump of Catholicks lands the King conferr'd upon him at once with the place of Lord President of the faire and goodly Province of Munster a dignity his Fathers Child did little think to obtaine and a reward his perfidy against the Crowne did not meritt cannot all these great Honours Estates and Riches satisfy the man unless hee see 's innocent Maerdochaeus hang'd on a high gibbet The goodness of God wee hope will not allow what hee desires the exterpation of a Nation Noble mindes ordinarily esteem the place where they or theire parents have gain'd agreat Fortune and Settlement Orery's Father it is well knowne from a lowstate came to one of the greatest Estates in the three Kingdoms hee was neither Sword-man nor Gown-man nor favoritt in Court and yet purchased a prodigious estate came to the Dignity of an Earl High
frendeant rumpantur invidia Oreri mille impij nugatores and this obedience did neuer take away obedience due to our King nor ever will Who but a beast would call a noble and ancient Nation a beaest sum will tell him he kicks against the whole Nation because hee is a beast highly pampered and fed with honours lands and Riches Did ever any call the faire Country of Ireland a Pest-house but this man why came soe many poore indigint men out of England this age into this Pesthouse to make theire fortunes why came his Father thither likely hee hath herd in what state and plight his Father then was hee found himselfe very well for many yeares in this Pest-house In his answer to P. W. hee speaks these Godly words Let it not seem strange or hard at least to P. W. and his Country-men if a continued Series of Covenant-breaches rapines Murthers Massacres Crueltys perfidies treasons and Rebellions exercised against the Crowne and Protestant Religion raise jealousies in the harts of all Iudicious Protestants Is not this a pious gloss of a Geneua Presbiterian upon a wicked theme doth not hee show the spleen and rancor of a cankered hart in this high tone and storme of Language against a whole Catholick Nation Orery it is a great Callumnie that the body of the confederat Catholicks exercised Rapins Murthers and those other abominations or acted any thing against King and Crowne To the contrary in theire oath of association you will finde an express branch of defending the Crowne King and Royall Family Wee are not accountable for what Murthers some of the common people at the first rising in the North committed against poore Protestants with the taking away of theire cattel and goods which wee pittied with all our harts the body of the Catholicks were not as yet com into the quarrell but awhile after were forced to take Arms to avoyd theire owne Destruction which could not be otherwise avoyded and since taking Arms they have done all a long what the lawes of a just warr allow'd But when you have your selfe commaunded a part of the Parlaments Rebellious Army have you contained your common soldiers from Murthering and Robbing the innocent common people wee found the contrary by experience Orery Pagina 28. of his answer to P. W. plays the Hypocrite with a great show of holiness However saith hee the once seduced Protestants of Ireland are willing to take shame to themselves and give glory to God in confessing their guilt such though not by causing yet by complying wtth the late usurpation though to a good end that they redily acknowledg they owe theire lives and estates to his Majesty's grace and Indulgence This is humble and dutifull language and such as should be spoken to a King but all is spoken to a King coming home with tryumph and entring into Ierusalem with Osanna in excelsis Benedictus qui venit in Nomine Domine But to this Kings Father a King and the Fountaine of Iustice as well as the Royall Sonne sorely afflicted what were the Salutations and cry's of Orerys Companions Tolle tolle Crucifige some men have witt to change theire dialect of speaking according to the change of tymes and fortune Orery is said to be one of these I pray you heare the scurrill impudency of this people in tyme of theire Rebellion sending in a derisory manner Huae and cry after his Majesty when they could not light on his Royall person If any man can bring any tale or tydings of a wilfull King who had gon a stray these foure years from his Parlament with a guilty Conscience bloody hands a hart full of brooken vowes and protestations if these marcks be not sufficient there is another in the Mouth for bid him speak and you will soone know him then give notice to Britanicus and you shall be well payd for your paines God saue the Parlament Who may not doubt but these kinde of men are those crept in unawarrs who as the Apostle Jude tells us despise dominion and speak evill of dignities did not the same Apostle foretell that there should be such mockers in the last tyme whoe should walke after theire owne ungodly Lustes I hope Orery will not say the great Rebells the Irish Catholicks such hee would haue them be did ever revile afflicted Majesty in such a scoffing way truly they did not but at all tymes and upon all occations in theire Pulpitts theire congregrations and publick assemblyes they spake of the King with all veneration and Compassion Now his Majesty coming home in prosperity those mockers of his Father are all becom purify'd Musaellmans and speake nothing but Magnalia of the King For all this there are thousands of good true Protestants Royallists in England that still feare those new penitents for abusing Royall Autority or at least faigne themselves soe to be would be glad to heare once more that millitary word as you were and if this shall com about the King will not have soe dutifull language from them That Orery says hee and other Protestants complyed with the usurpation to a good end is a strange expression hee needs explaine himselfe They invaded all the regalia that is they took away the Kings Navy Forts Townes Militia and in the end they Murther'd the King himselfe Does Orery call this a good end of complying with the usurpation The truth is Orery and his Companions in Ireland came home when they could noe longer stand of the King may thank Generall Muncks ingenious stratagem for theire coming in theire intention and ways were well knowne Now the Kings worke being don by Munck with all wished success soe as those in Ireland had noe power to hinder it then Orery and the rest thought fitt to cry out let the King live and as hee and his trusty comrades syding with the usurpation had goverment and places of trust and profitt they then all danced to Crumwells pype soe now they court the King returning home and show themselves great penitents taking shame to themselves of theire guilt and giving Glory to God Is not this a great glory to God to confess a rebellion they could noe more deny then wee can deny its day when the Sonne is shining and scorching the earth That which much troubles Orery is that the Irish Catholicks doe not acknowledg themselves guilty of a rebellion with him and give glory to God that way but they being not guilty of such rebellion and treason against the Crowne answer with S. Augustine Praestat magis innocentem esse quam poenitentem Orery ingag'd as aboue was said in a horrid rebellion if hee could make the Catholicks confess themselves to have been Rebells if this hee could compass hee would indeed triumph and say in a leering way behold the Irish Catholicks Confess they have been rebells as well as wee but wee have obtain'd pardon which was denyed them and have gott theire estates and lands to boot let
such things can not be otherways preserued Soe S. Thomas Now if such defense is lawfull for privat men how much more for a Common wealth or Nation Bonum enim commune excellentius universalius ac subendé Divinius est Bannez For that a Common good is more exellent more universal and somtymes more Devine then a private good And if it be lawfull to wage warre upon such inferiour motives as is the preservation or recovery of temporall goods honour and the like how much more lawfull is it to manage warre upon that supreme motive of defending and preseruing the Catholick faith without which there is noe Salvation This was the Iudgment the pious and valiant Machabees made of the warre they undertook and nobly persued for theire Religion and Laws which they preferd before theire wives and Children and all temporall things most deare unto them The Machabees being exhorted with the words of Iudas exceeding good c. they resolued to fight and to encounter manfully because the holy Citty and the Temple were in-danger For there was less care for theire wives and Children and alsoe for theire Bretheren and Kindsmen but the greatest and principall feare was for the Holiness of the Temple How farre a defensive warre may extend the Schoolmen tell us and say that by accident it may be somtyms lawfull for the Common wealth to doe and offer all such damages and Evill as may be done and offered in a just offensive warre Aliqnando saith Bannez contingere potest ut liceat illis inferre hostibus omnia illa mala que possunt in bello justo aggresivo It may happen somtymes to bee lawfull for those ingaded in a defensive warr to doe all Evills and Damages which can be offered or don in a just offensive warr Which happeneth when the agressors are publick Enemys and when there is noe recourse to the Prince and that those defending themselves can noe otherwise avoyd the violence offered by the Assailants This was truly the case of the confederate Catholicks as will clearly appeare to such as will be pleasd to examin it Moreover the case then stood soe with his Majesty that hee was not able to redress the injuries don us nor did our Enemys then obay his commaunds I mean a little after the warr begunn but the Parlament that fell from the King For the better and clearer understanding the nature of a defenfive warr those therin ingaged hould not themselves passively but actively soe doe the words repell or beat back signify if the end it be lawfull then are the necessary means to compasse that end alsoe lawfull if the defence of on 's selfe be lawfull then is the killing of the invader without which the life of the invaded cannot be preserued Lawfull soe as to kill is involued in the act of defence and the lawfullness of the one inferrs the lawfullness of the other Si vis saith the civill Law fiat personae tunc licitum est se defend●re defendendo percutere imo etiam occidere si aliter non potest quis evadere manus ejus If violence is don to a person it is then lawfnll for him to defend himselfe and defending himselfe to strick and alsoe to kill if hee cannot otherwise escape the hands of his Enemys Thus stood the case with the Irish Catholicks that they must have kill'd or have beene killed Yea soe great is the Iustice of a defensive warr that devines teach it is lawfull for the Sonne to defend himselfe against his Father the wife against her husband the servant against his Master the subjest against his Superiour and the vassall against his Prince or King Soe Azor Nempe Licitum esse Filio contra Patrem uxori contra Maritum subdito contra Superiorem vassallo contra Principem sive Regem se desendere If it be lawfull for the Subject or vassall in a just cause to defend himselfe against the Prince it must be lawfull to defend himselfe against his fellow subject Here I meet with an objection in which our adversarys put great force The Irish Catholicks say they were the first aggressors The objection is easily answered as thus It is a Common Doctrin of the Devines that it is lawfull to prevent an Evill that can not be otherways avoyded then by preventing it E. G. I see you take your pistoll in your hand cocking it to shoote at mee in that case it is lawfull for mee to discharge my pistoll and kill you otherwise I should be kill'd by you will any law punish mee for killing you soe would the Law of God or nature have mee stay my hand untill I am kill'd by you Tannerus a good Devine teacheth soe Licitum est etiam praevinire injustum aggressorem si alia via commodae defensiones non supetat is jam aliqualiter est in culpae sive in proposito aggressionis injustae versetur It is lawfull to prevent an uniust invader if there is noe other way of defence and that astually the invavader is in fault or in a purpose of an uniust invation Becanus doth declare examining this question an aliquando liceat invasorem praevenire illum occidere antequam nos actu invadat hee answers Licere in his casibus primo si accedat ad invadendum nec evadere possum nisi illum preveniam Secuudo si nondum accedat tamen instructus sit ad invadendum nec possum effugere nisi priveniam Whether somtyms it is lawfull for us to prevent the invader and kill him afore he actually invad's us hee answers that it is in these cases first if hee coms to invade mee and that I cannot escape but by preventing secondly if hee does not as yet invade mee but is ready and prepared for that invation and that I cannot avoyd him but by preventing in this case if I kill him I doe it me defendendo and consequently though I struck first I am the defender and hee the aggressor Sotus Navar Corduba Covar and many houlds this Doctrin and Navar gives this example of a Married man who has a dagger under his pillow to kill his wife withall which shee discovering and knowing may prevent by killing her husband if there is noe other remedy the reason is though actually hee has not done the execution however hee is in a radiness to perform it for which end hee kept her soe boulted up and inuironed as shee cannot otherwise escape This was truly the case of the confederate Catholicks at the beginning of the warr they were boulted up in an Iland as that woeman in the Chamber there was noe doore open for them then by preventing the Presbiterians blooddy designe if this they had not done there had beene an end of them all Richard Bealings Esquire to Vrbanus 8s from the body of the Irish Catholicks and the Lord Bishop of Fernes and Sir Nicholas Pluncket sent to Innocentius X. did not tell those Popes