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The controversie between episcopacy and presbytery stated and discussed, by way of letters, at the desire of a person of quality and learning. / By J. Gailhard, A.M. & D.
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Gailhard, J. (Jean)
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1660
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Wing G119; Thomason E1083_3; ESTC R202264
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James his ââth had been one of the chief causes that brought ââch heavy judgements ãâ¦ã Bâ as to this point of oaths Hon urable Sir I refer you to my ãâã upon the third Commandeâent a Coâââ heââ of I now ând you inâlosed which with thââ will I fear ãâ¦ã have ãâ¦ã from Honourable Sir Your c. G. Juââ â4 1ââ0 The fourth Letter Honourable Sir I Conââââ ãâ¦ã to you not âât of conceit in ãâã of any ãâã ââintâent anâ youâ Commands or to require the hoâ iâ yââ laâ upon âe in things aboââ which you might have a ãâ¦ã from many âore âapable to give it then ãâ¦ã effect oâ that absolâââ obedience I have swââ to your commands and that conâââmmit I have promised to yââ pleaââe ãâã whereââ I will endeavoâ at this time to lay open the ãâã conââoversie between Pââââââans as they aâe ãâ¦ã and ãâ¦ã salen The sonneâ do with and maintain the Church ââght to be ruled by Elders whence they have the name of Presbyteââââ for you kn w that Pâââââ ân Greek signifieth an âlder and first there ought to be Congââââââ Elders in every Parish for it bââng granted that theâe ought to be an order in the Church it must be that which is grounded upon Scriptures if now these Elders ought to be secular men as it will be proved hereafter They are sometimes called Lay-Elders which expression we will make use of because it is the common expression for they are chosen from the Layitie of the people for in pretence to the Ecclesiastical Office they are not lay men Truly besides divine institutions there is a great advantage cometh this way in union these persons that are Elders having influence upon others of the Parish may by their example and perswasion bring people into submission of order and holinesse of life for Elder must be persons of an excellent knowledge and of unblameable life And secondly hence discipline will be observ'd for these persons here being from amongst the people and changed from time to time their censure and judgement shall the more willingly be submitted unto the sentence of many is more considerable then that of few and thereby the hatred cast upon a Minister in the execution of discipline and the suspicion of his being partial may be washed away besides that it is easier to bribe one then many before these within their Parish the breach of Gods Law in Religion as prophanesse and neglect of Ordinances so the breach of Charitie in quarrels divisions scandals ought to be judged as our blessed Saviour saith Matth. 18. If thy brother hath offended thee and will not be reconciled in the prisoner of few till if the Church that is the Rulers of the Church to wit the Elders For first this cannot be understood of the Minister alone of the Church who indeed may be called the Angel of the Church Secondly This is not understood of every individual person of the Church this would introduce a strange confusion if all were to be judges which cannot be because of the incapacity and other unqualifications of persons as of women children and some men therefore it must be done by the Ministers and Representatives of the Church to wit Elders as you will see hereafter But as sometime such is the quality of the persons and nature of businesses as they cannot be decided in the Parish there may be an appeal to the Classis of those parts that is a certain number of Presbyters select for that division over which there ought to be a Moderator choâen by Plurality of Voyces and this only pre tempore Now this Classis is subordinate to the Synod of that County or Province which is the convention of all the classes of that County over the which shall also be a Moderator and this only pro tempore as Saint James was in Jerusalem Acts 15. by Plurality of Voyces and this provincial Synod shall be subordinate to the National whââe thââ of high ãâã decided to the which two or more Mâââe is and Prââââââ oâ every shire aââ to be âent This may be callâd onâe a year the Provincial once every haââ year the Claââââ ãâ¦ã every month is therâ ãâã caâe and the consââty oâ congregation ãâã bââtwââne every Loâde âry eve y forth night The Pâânate of Lâând âave his ââgement ãâ¦ã as Doctor Bernard doth testifie and certainly ãâã of Goââân none hath pââved so happy as ãâã in Fâance Scotland parts of Germany and other places wheâe it is strictly observed tââte hath been no schismââ ãâã of wickednesses committed howsoever not unâânished âoâ hereby they may presently be reââained if incuâââ spââd out of the Church I might shew the happiness of the Reformed Churches in France under it considering their condition for they are Subjects to a Popish King but I have matter enough bâââdes this Aâââe I prove thââ to be of a divine Institution I will endeavour to proâââgâte Eââjââpââr which being done it will be nâ haâd matter to acteâs Prââââery But first Presbyters ââanâ do allow of Bishops provided they be reduced to their former purity that is to be a Minister and not above a Minister of an âweâeet or superintendent ãâã this is the ãâã sâânication of the âoââââ its oâââânal Now to be to Overices oâââ hââ flock is pertaining to every Minister Acts 20 28. to you see every Minister is a Bishop 1 ââw 3. But Bââhops by way of it ãâã authority primaây or dependency of one Minister from aââbet is in no ãâã grounded ââon Sâââtures but it is Tyrannical by âârpation and of humane invention as to the case of Aâââ Bishop they must confess it as they do to be instituted of men Supremacy therefore in Church is very dangerous it is a temptation to pââde and occasion of ambition which men are naturally prone unto ãâã Saint John had lived in these our dayes ãâã many Dâârepheââ wâââ he have diâcovered whom he condemneth in his three Epistles ãâã he loveth to have the preeminenâe and sure I am we ãâã have a better Pattern for the Role of the Chââch then the school of Christ where he was so far from allowing of it that he reproved them when they had disputed who should be the ãâã he such Cââiââ that will be the greatest shall be the leâât where be makes an opposition between the Government of Church and State The King of the Nations exercise lordship âver them and those that are ãâã use authority âver them but amongst you it shall not be so he that will be the greatest let him be your servant Matth. 20.25 Why shall we so much condemn in the Pope that which they approve in others Shall one and the same thing evil of it self pride and usurpation be a crime in the Bishops of Rome and a vertue in the Bishops of England an Arch Bishop here that hath the precedencie of some of the Kings sonnes is he not an Image of that of Italy true it is it is not in