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A59913	The second part of the birth and burning of the image called St. Michael, or, A new letter to Mr. Jonathan Saunders, lecturer of All-Saints-Barking being the answer of Mr. Edmund Sherman, late church-warder to a sham libel (without any authors name) called The sham-indictment quashed ...	Sherman, Edmund, 17th cent.	1681 (1681)	Wing S3383; ESTC R28864	30,547	16

insolent or dare Assert there are many Falsities and Prevarications in them and that these highly tend to the dishonour of the established Protestant Religion and that it is a Libel upon the whole Parish Except you don't mean on my part but your own part Nay have you confidence enough your self In verbo sacerdotis to say the substance of these Matters are false If you dare not print that all these seventeen Heads in verbo sacerdotis are false then let the World believe them all to be true Nay Mr. Saunders since you have printed such a scandalous Report of my Book called Birth and Burning c. you must give me a Reply My Book called Birth and Burning c. hath my own Name to it Folio 14. and I own it all even to the End and I put my Name to this and own it also therefore I will not take any Answer from any Body but you and signed with your hand that you will own and if you Answer short I will call upon you for positive not evasive Answer The World will judge by my Print and your Answer who Writes clearest to the Matter I will not accept of any Answer of Nath. Thomson that is his Answer to the other Mercury let them squabble one with the other till they can agree one in staring the Questions right the other in Answering I respect Mr. Thomson because he Prints the Loyal Intelligence and the good Loyal Man thinking the Church is concern'd takes her part he means well in that He tells you the Indictment was Quasht for Insufficiency of the Indictment he don't say it was Quasht for insufficiency of the Law of Edward the Sixth Are not many Men Non-Suited though they have the Law on their side yea sometimes upon a very Bond meerly for the insufficiency of a Declaration and don 't the very Words he quotes signifie as much quassitur per curam pro insufficientia inde c. And he that Loyal Man quotes Mr. Westcoat and Mr. Clements for Proofs of what I don't deny nor Object He saith it was the Common practice of Doctor Lafield and Mr. Saunders also to bow towards the Communion-Table when they had occasion to go up unto it yea but they never had or did take any occasion to go up to read Service on Sundayes but on Communion-dayes and so I say now again in this Book also that they never did Bow there before St. Michael was set there but on Communion-dayes and so my usual Charge runs throughout my Book except on Communion-dayes and if the exception be any where omitted I hereby declare it ought so to be understood But this Loyal Man does not offer a Word of Proof that this Carved Image was any Ornament to the Commandments or that the Commandments especially the Second Commandment is a Farthing the worse or the Parish a Farthing the poorer for my burning it nor doth any Body take occasion of bawling for loss of it so much as a Lecturer but it is true that the Parish is two or three Pounds the worse by Mr. Ben. Edwards expending so much Money out of the Poors Stock for making this useless Image for the Parish hath no Stock but what is intended by the Benefactors for the Poor or some useful things for the Church I hope future Church-Wardens will imploy Peoples Benevolence to Feed and Cloath the Poor and not to buy Carved Images which will not be useful in Churches till Popery come in which God prevent I do my part to prevent it by Writing against Images I have drawn my Pen and I will throw away the Scabbord But I won't say any more to Mr. Thomson my business is with you and it will lessen the esteem of your own Learning to set a Hackney though never so Loyal to Answer me you must take a little more pains than a sheet of Paper to Answer the great Labour and pains I have taken in my First and Second Part of my Book called The Birth and Burning of St. Michael I have given you a great deal of time already since you first knew the Substance charged on you and I hear you are going to consult your Oracle that right Loyal Gentleman Mr. A●●●● c. I am content you should consult many more lay your Heads close and le ts see the product of that Cabal come out in your Name bravely fixed to it as you did to your beloved Book called Fiery Apparition and then if it be good and fully satisfactory to the World it shall satisfie me and every other part of both my Books as well as any of these Articles which you leave unanswered ought to be understood by the World as true if you do not Answer them For a bare saying the Rubrick directs won't do except you name the Act of Uniformity and except you do name the place therein where it directs it so and that it does as much direct in Manner Time and Place every part of your practice as absolutely and as well in all parochial Churches as in Cathedrals and Chappels not only on Communion-dayes or Holy-dayes but every Sunday though there be no Communion and this you are to Answer under my first Quaere which you will find tender'd to you by and by If you do not Answer particularly to each Head whether those seventeen particulars be true every ones Tongue will be calling on you and I crave the World to credit me till you Answer fairly and sully with your own hand If these seventeen Heads be false then my Book Birth and Burning c. is false But if these seventeen Heads being the considerable and most material part of my said Book are true in substance then now false is that Nameless Author of that Libel called The Sham-Indictment Quasht and who will believe him in Print or Pulpit that would by a Pamphlet with a Sham Title and no Authors Name call that false which in it self is true in substance Mr. Saunders I expect Answer under your own hand not generally except you own them all but particular which you confess and which you deny and shew me the Error if you can find it And then you must Answer these four Queries 1. Whether the Act of Uniformity does as much and as positively command the use of all those Ceremonies in the same manner and place and times as you practise as it doth all other Services therein injoyned and prove it by quoting of places else if it be indifferent why did you Press it especially at such a juncture of time as 78. when the Popish Plot was discovering O the Time the Time the critical minite And have a care your Answer do not reflect upon above a hundred Parishes in and about London yea upon our own Lord Bishop of London's Parish of Aldersgate and upon about eight thousand other Parishes in England where it is not so used For if you be in the right then Aldersgate as well as the rest are all in the

wrong and consequently Aldersgate as well as the Eight Thousand must all go up to the Altar and there say the proper Prayer We have all erred and strayed from thy wayes like lost Sheep and then it they be Civil they must all turn about to you and say We are all taught of thee Our most cringingly devout and unseriously Ceremonious Brother Johnathan which I dare say thou won't live to see all England learn the Law at thy Mouth If thy Ceremonious practices be not all absolutely so enjoin'd why doest thou defend them and daily snarl at them that won't take thy Word for it rather than an Act of Parliament Tell me not of Canons except such as are allowed by Acts of Parliament for I know no Cannons but the great Guns on Tower-hill and they are almost all worne off or gone too except they have passed the Tripple Scrutiny of England and so become Laws For my part I am clearly of and for the Religion of the Church of England as it is now established by Law and O would to God we could all be of that one uniform Opinion and Practice that is thereby establisht The Cerrificates which I annually make upon Record of my taking the Sacrament on account of the Office I hold in this Honourable City may satisfie the Inquisitors in that point but I further say our Religion as now establisht is the best in the World I write not only my Judgment but my own Experience of the Lutheran and Calvin as well as of the Papists Religion the Practice and Doctrine of all which I have Personally seen known and understood in Denmark Swedeland Sprutia Germany Polonia and Flanders and other parts I value my Experiences in Religion more than my Reading and on that Assurance and Satisfaction I declare our establisht Religion of the Church of England to be the best of the World But as there is danger on one Hand from those that fall short of the Church of England that it may tend to Confusion so there is danger also on the other Hand from those that go beyond for such Winged Seraphim-sons of the Church as fly higher in their Ceremonies than his Majesties Act of Uniformity directs when those Soarers are once upon the Wing of disguise or design of preferment and have got beyond or above the Kings Law they may fly as high as the Church of Rome nay to Rome it self and there Rant and Roar and Sing and Curse and Damn and Drink and Drink and Drink on till they spew and reel and thrust their Thumb under their Girdle and loll their Head to the Larboard and strut and stare and stagger and swagger and so vent and gulp up their words stutteringly and stammeringly calling all Phanaticks perhaps Hereticks too that don 't because they ought not or perhaps can not fly as high as such lofty Sons of the Church do until at last near Eight Thousand honest sober Clergy-men right bred-Sons of the Church more Piously exemplary and Zealous and Serious and more regularly devout shall be all spewed upon by such Mounta Seigniora's from home Libera nos Domine Now seeing it is certainly true that there are about Eight Thousand parochial Churches in England where the Ministers don't say second Service at Communion-Table nor don 't say any part of the Communion Service at Communion-Table at any time but only on Communion-dayes or some perhaps upon High Holy-dayes nor those Eight Thousand don 't quit their Pulpits without Prayer or Blessing to perform their after Sermon-Prayer and Benediction at the Altar ought we not therefore to be so charitable as to believe that the Eight Thousand understand their Duty and Conscience and that they practise as much as they believe to be their Duty And now that I may apply my Answer to your last Sham Pamphlet fully and home to you I will invert your last Paragraph therein and send it packing again home to you to be imbraced in your own bosom and so I say in your own words or sence viz. I leave it to all Impartial Men to determin whether the practice of above Eight Thousand sober and pious Clergy-men all of unbroken yea and Vndrunken Reputation too are to be believed and imitated or the Assertion and Practice of one single Mr. Saunders Now Mr. Johnathan Confute and Convert these 8000. Et eris mihi Magnus Appollo or else hang your Harp upon the Willows for there are Eight Thousand sober Men won't Dance after your Pipe don't obstinately run Counter to Eight Thousand of your own Fraternity but either leave off your foolish conceited singularity or else write Learnedly so as may confute them all by proofs which you must quote out of the Act of Conformity but I will vouch there is not one word therein nor in the Old or New Testament that directs the faying Service at 2 Barking Church differing from Eight Thousand other Parishes in the same Land I say you must do it by Proofs for else of all men no body will believe you when you only say in verbo Sacerdotis without better proof for you are in print for Printing an untruth against a Record it self Therefore pray quote all the places that you have for your proofs in Vindication of your Ceremonies which you use If you have Authority shew it what place or page it is in and in what Book that so you may Receive Answer from some Learned hand when the Quondam Church-Warden can answer you no further But seeing you have first brought me upon the Stage and first began with me by two Pamphlets Challenging and charging me for not defending a vile Image no better and upon those two Challenges when my Vindication came forth in a Book called Birth and Burning c. then by a late Libel entituled The Sham-Indictment Quasht you seem to challenge me again and being once more met by you upon the Stage in print now I do here challenge and charge you that you have been the Beginner of such Ceremonies as have been the occasion of all this pother and noise about this Image you smelt it would come home to your door at last and therefore you first skreamed out But what is the matter now have you catcht a Tartar O! Now I have got you here I will keep you on the Stage untill you Answer me and give an account of your Faith in those Ceremonies that have made this embroyl and I challenge and require you to answer me in Print with your own hand not with a Nameless print or some Sham or feigned Apparitions any more for I will not lay down the Cudgells but Bang you on the Stage in print till you have Answer'd a Quondam Church-Warden in Matters of your own Element let the World see how you can defend your self at your own Weapon by fair play not by Railing for all Clergy-men will yield the buckles to thee that thou art better at that than any of them all come fairly confess

when we fear the prevailing of a Religion that is composed of Ceremonies and Superstitions And Consider the rather with your self who first put you upon running into these Ceremonies I have good ground to believe the Report of some of the People in and about Sandon that it was a Lay Gentleman who in some former Years had been himself or some of his Relations of the Romish Religion and therefore consider and think it no wonder if that Gentleman press hard upon you for a strict Observation and a due Performance of a Multitude of Ceremonies because he may perhaps think that God's worship in the Church of England consists as much in Ceremonies as it did so in the Romish Church but I hope you have not so learned Christ And then you will be able to reply to that Gentleman this other Text viz. God is a Spirit and they that worship him Must worship him in Spirit and in Truth Joh. 4.24 And pray Study Preach and Practise this your own self and begin nor continue no new Ceremonies at least let your betters go before you I mean see it done at Aldersgate before you Print up the Legality of it at Barking or Sandon Thus it seems you have made Divisions at Sandon also and a Noise about the Country as well as die City meerly by your singularity and Ceremonious practices to the wonder of some Neighbouring Learned Clergy-men about Sandon What will you disturb City and Country and with the heat of your pretended Conscientious zeal boyl all the goodness out of the Meat Religion into the Broth of Ceremonies Nay if the marrow and goodness of Religion and quintessence of it be gone into the broth and the All of it lyes there then it is no wonder you contend so much for the Broth that Religion is boyl'd in I mean the Broth of uninjoyn'd Ceremonies for I would not be thought to Ridicule any Ceremonies that are injoyned by the Law it is you Mr. Lecturer that imbroyl London and Sandon and by your bowing c. occasioned an Indictment at London and then that occasioned three Pamphlets at London and this my Second Vindication also it was those Lecturers Lecturers that in Pulpit and Press did turn the World up-side down in 41. in 41. and for a Lecturer now in these times to Print up more Ceremonies and Bowings than the Law hath enjoyned tends to turn us quite topsie turvy because it may tend to bringing in a Religion that is Composed of and upheld by Ceremonies from such Religion good Lord deliver us When I read what the Samaritan Woman said Our Fathers worshipped in this Mountain and ye say that at Jerusalem is the place where Men ought to worship John 4.20 So may I say we had all our Morning Services both First and Second Services all said in the Desk at Barking ever since the Creation of the Kings Act of Conformity till about 78. and now you Johnathan say that the Altar is the place where the Men of Barking ought to worship the same God by saying second Service there So I also may say that ever since the Creation of the said Act our Sermons did end with some Prayer and Benedictions in the Pulpit until about 78. But now you Johnathan say that the Men of Barking ought to receive the benefit of your after Sermon-prayers and Benedictions at the Altar after you have bowed to it and not from the Pulpit It will be now expected that you that have thus exposed your self not only in Loyal Mr. Thomson but in your own Three single Sheets and have exposed me also to the World when you had no just occasion except in defence of an Image I say it will now be expected that you should give the World a Learned and Good Account in Print of the whole Matter particularly why your Conscience is streighter Laced at London than it is at Sandon or else Life Doctrine Print Pulpit Reading Ceremonious Bowing Critical time lucky Minit and all Circumstances considered you will come on and go off the Printed State under a Charactor and in the wildest Notion of the largest sized Latitudinarian of any Clergy-man in England In your Book of Fiery Apparition c. Page 4. you have these words I could have wished with all my Heart that the thing had made no Noise abroad I believe by this time you do wish so with all your Heart and Head and Soul also thou wishest it had made no Noise and yet you begin the Noise your self with Two Pamphlets before ever I Printed one word I find in the second Book Page 4. more of your own Words being thus And I very well understand that Liberty of Conscience and Liberty of the Press are things that have an unhappy Influence upon the whole Nation and therefore as I am no Friend in the present wild Notion to the one so I should hardly have been guilty of using the other had there not been this Too just occasion for it Just so I invert this Sentance of your own If Clergy-men will take Liberty of Conscience in the Pulpit and Press to inveigh against me why then I can't forbear being Guilty of using the Press to tell the World how you Ring of Sacrelidge about one vile Image And I should never have Printed had there not been this too just occasion for it which are also your own words Pray God the Protestant Religion and Church as it is now establisht by Law never receive a greater Bow in England than my Burning an Image God Almighty who equally hates Superstition and Sedition blast the designs of all those on either hand that tend to seek the Destruction of this true Protestant Church of England as it is now establisht by Law especially those of her own Houshould for I am an enemy to all that go beyond as well as to those that come short of the Church of England For every step beyond if it be a Superstitious step it may soonest of all be a Popish step the rather because at this day Romes Agents are so ready to take Men by the Hand and Dance them into Romes Fopperies with the pleasant Song of welcome John Sanderson welcome welcome And then I will say farwel John Sanderson farwel farewel I kept these Two Astonishments till at last in hopes I should have seen you rectifying your mistakes in Print one is your Text Where no Law is there is no Transgression Must you be taught by a Church-warden that there is a Law except you are agreed with some Papist who leave that Commandment out of their Deacalogue you will one day find it in Exod. 20.3 4. in these words Thou shalt not make to thy self any Graven Image nor the likeness of any thing that is in Heaven above or in the Earth beneath or the Waters under the Earth thou shalt not Bow down to them nor worship them c. Though you evade this Image by calling it a Figure or Symbol yet you may