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A34067 Friendly and seasonable advice to the Roman Catholicks of England by a charitable hand. Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1677 (1677) Wing C5468; ESTC R1768 62,503 180

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consent thereto or confirmation thereof The Popes indeed about the latter end of the Saxon times began to degenerate in Manners and aim at high things in all the Western world but his Pride was checked here even as as we shewed before it was in other places for when that Insolent Pope Hildebrand who first presumed to depose an Emperour took the boldness to require Fealty of King William the Conqueror he answered him in this manner Fealty I neither have acknowledged nor will I do it because neither did I promise it nor do I find that my Predecessors ever did it to your Predecessors as appears by the Conqueror's Letter still extant And when by Policy and evil Arts he had made some encroachments here yet still his Power was esteemed no other than a Temporal Power permitted by the favour of our Kings not due by any Original Right Hence the Historian saith That King Henry the First having subdued all his Enemies feared none but the Pope and that not for his Spiritual but his Temporal Power And an Old Record affirms that King Henry the Second smartly asked the Bishop of Chichester How he durst argue for the Pope ' s Authority which was granted by Men against his Royal Power derived from God The turbulent and seditious Attempts of T. Becket and his faction about that time to subject the English Clergy to the Pope's Vniversal Supremacy are sufficiently known but if our Ancestors whom you call Roman Catholicks had been of your Opinion in this great Article of Faith they would not have made so stout an Opposition against the Pope's Supremacy as they did It being apparent that the whole body of the Nation then looked on it as an Encroachment and an Vsurpation for in the famous Statutes of Clarendon they condemn it Decreeing among other things That all the Clergy should bonâ fide swear to the King and none should Appeal but unto the Archbishop or from him finally to the King without particular License And to restrain his medling here the Kings of England declared they had a Right to forbid the Pope's Legates from entring into this Land and often did prohibite them even Qu. Mary her self exercising this Power yea it was adjudged in a Parliament 25 Ed. 3. To be Treason to bring in the Pope's Bulls here without the Kings consent Stat. de Provisor though the sending these be an Act of Spiritual Jurisdiction but it is plain they would not allow the Pope in those days to exercise Spiritual Jurisdiction here without the King's leave for his very Excommunicating certain English Bishops in a Parliament 16 of Rich. 2. is declared to tend To the open disherison of the Crown and the destruction of the King his Law and all his Realms and a little after it is affirmed there that the Popes attempts be clearly against the Kings Crown and Regality used and approved in the time of all his Progenitors finally therefore they all promise to stand with the King against all such Encroachments with their very lives And if you be well versed as becometh English-men in the Histories and Statutes of your own Country you must needs know that the Authority which the Pope once exercised here was gotten by taking advantages of the necessities of our Kings and the divisions among the People And in those Times which are accounted most Popish it was checked by Laws complained of in Parliament and thought an Oppression by the wisest and greatest Subjects so that the most Noble Hen. de Lacy Earl of Lincoln in his dying Speech to his Son in Law Thomas Earl of Lancaster said among other things That the Church of England heretofore Honourable and Free was now enslaved by Romish Oppressions charging him to stand up like a man for the Honour of God and the Church and the Redemption of his Country And the same Author tells us that it was debated in a Council at London An. 1408. Whether all Payments and Obedience to the Pope should not be taken away Which shews they thought it in the power of this Nation to take away his Authority here when they pleased And they retained it not as being necessarily or originally due to him but only in respect of his being a Bishop of an Ancient Apostolical Seat as is evident from those Instructions which King Henry the Fifth gave to his Embassadors sent to Pope Martin the Fifth bidding them if they perceived any delay in their affair to tell the Pope That their Master the King if he yielded not to his Demands would use his own power in these Particulars for he did not apply himself to Rome out of necessity but for Respect sake And therefore when this permissive Authority grew uneasie to those who had endured it for some time it was rejected much more Legally than ever it was introduced viz. by the Regal Power with the advice and consent of the Lords and Commons in Parliament And this is to be noted the Clergy and Laity of this Parliament did hold most of the Opinions of the Roman Church in other things and yet consented to the abolishing the Pope's Vsurped Power over England as believing it to be an unjust Encroachment And Stephen Gardiner Bishop of Winchester a great Persecutor of the Protestants did then make a learned Oration De verâ obedientiâ shewing that the King was by Right and by God's Law the Supream Head of this Church of England And now that I may not only confute a false Opinion but establish the true let me intreat you impartially to consider that as it appears the Pope is not Dejure supream Head of this Church of England so it is as evident that the King of England is the Supream Head of the Churches in his own Dominions For indeed all Christian Princes are or ought to be so in their own Dominions whence it was that Constantine the Great did retain the Title of Pontifex Maximus without any blot to his Christianity saith Baronius And the highest Appeals in all Controversies Ecclesiastical even in matters of Faith were made to him though he used the assistance and Counsel of his Bishops for determining them And it is evident that he and his Successors as Cusanus before confesseth did call and Preside in all General Councils and ratified their Decrees which were no Laws till they were stamped with the Imperial Authority yea the Imperial Code sufficiently witnesses that the Emperour 's made Laws concerning Religion the whole Third book of Justinian's Basilicks being nothing else but Imperial Constitutions de Episcopis Clericis Sacris They also erected Patriarchates and gave them supream Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction over such Provinces as they pleased as at Justinianopolis in Daeia and at Ravenna in Italy it self which had no dependence on Rome till the time of Constantinus Pogon And all Ecclesiastical affairs depended on the Emperors saith Socrates so that Pope Anastasius calls the
Emperor Anastasius The Vicar of God by the Divine command presiding over the Earth An Authority like this also was exercised by the Western Emperors of the French Line being stayled The Rulers of the True Religion a Title given to Charles the Great and to Ludovicus by two several Councils which they had called and the present French Kings do claim the Supremacy over the French Churches as may be seen in ●●ohellus and P. Pith●us cited before Sect. 5. One of the French Writers telling us it is the Opinion of his Nation that Le Royiassisté de son Conseil d'estate est ●●●es Di●● Chief Terrie● de l'Eglise de son Royanme 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Pape And it may be proved concerning other Christian Princes that they allow not the Pope to impose his Decrees on their Kingdoms nor to exercise any Jurisdiction among them but by their special License and consent and prohibite his exercising any power over their Subjects when they please And why may not the King of England being a free and absolute Monarch be allowed as great a Priviledge in his own Dominions Do you not tell us that Pope Eleutherius called King Lucius by the Title of Vicar of Christ and doth not King Edgar call himself Christs Vicar and none taxed this Title then Did not the Saxon Kings preside in all National Councils and make Laws for Religion by the advice of their own Bishops by their own Authority Did they not erect new Sees for Bishops and change them as they saw fit Did they not invest all Bishops by delivering the Ring and Pastoral Staff And the same power was still exercised by K. William the Conqueror for all things both Divine and Humane depended on his Order saith an Old Historian And when the Pope began to encroach upon the King's Supremacy here in England he was generally opposed as we noted before And in the aforesaid Parliament of Richard the Second the Nation declared That they would not endure that the Crown of England should be submitted to the Pope and the Laws and Statutes of this Realm by him defeated and avoided at his pleasure for Bracton our most famous Lawyer affirms that The Kings of England have no Supream on earth but God And accordingly the Kings and Parliaments of this Nation made Laws in reference to Religion as they saw expedient and among the rest they enacted many Laws in a direct opposition to the Pope's Spiritual as well as Temporal Jurisdiction declaring thereby that they esteemed him no Head of this Church but an ambitious and dangerous Encroacher upon the Rights of the Crown as you will find by perusal of those several Statutes cited in the Margin By which Laws long since enacted it is declared to be Treason to receive or harbour any Agents or Emissaries from Rome against the King's Proclamations and without his special License Upon all which Considerations the Judges have declared that the Act of Parliament for Restoring the Supremacy over the Church unto the Crown was not the introducing a New Law but a declaration of the Old For it was many hundred years before that King Henry the Second did declare That be would account it high Treason in any man that should affirm the Pope's Authority was above his And before that Anselm was told That it was impossible for him to keep the Faith which he owed to the King and to pay Obedience to the Pope contrary to his Royal Pleasure Which methinks may fitly admonish you who do own the Pope's Supremacy over England and yet glory much in your Loyalty to the King to enquire how these two can stand together Our Saviour saith No mancan serve two Masters Matth. vi 24. however not two Supream Lords neither can there be two highest Powers in one Kingdom nor can any Subjects obey both since they will sometimes command contrary things 'T is true if the Roman Bishop would profess to our King as his Predecessor Leo the Fourth did to Lotharius of France Concerning your Capitulars or Imperial Precepts we through the assistance of Christ promise as much as we are able to keep and conserve the same for ever If he would acknowledge himself subject to our King in his Dominions as his Predecessors were to the Emperours of Old if he behaved himself toward his Majesty as S. Gregory did to Mauritius who calls that Emperour his Lord and himself his Servant declaring that He was subject to the Emperours Commands and accordingly had done his duty in publishing a Law which the Emperour ordered him to promulge though for his own part he thought it not agreeable to the Laws of God If the present Popes claimed no more than a Primacy of order and precedency among other Bishops then the case might easily be determined But you know of later times the pretences of Rome are much higher for she challenges a Supremacy over all Christian Princes a power to depose them an Authority to abrogate or dispense with their Laws and absolve their Subjects from their Allegiance a Priviledge to be appealed unto as to the last and highest Tribunal on Earth so that Clement the Fifth is recorded in the Acts of the Council of Vienna to have said That all the Right of Kings depended on him alone and Boniface the Eighth owned himself not only Lord of France but of all the World for So great was the Impudence of this Boniface saith the French Chronologer that he presumed to affirm the Kingdom of France was a Fee of the Papal Majesty And as to this Kingdom Pope Innocent the Fourth saith That the King of England was his Vassal and his Slave and they esteem England also a Fee of the Papacy and so is Ireland too it seems Whereupon the Pope hath dared to nominate a King of Ireland and hath given away the Kingdom of England to those who attempted to conquer it he hath condemned our Laws and absolved the Subjects of England from their Allegiance upon which many of your Party have entred into Conspiracies and Rebellion So that now it appears the Pope claims an Absolute Supremacy over our King and his Realms and how he can be a good Subject of the King of England who professes Obedience to this Forreign Princely Prelate is very hard to be understood if you believe this claim and own the Pope to be above the King you must then obey him even when his Orders contradict those of your lawful Sovereign and so you are the Pope's Subjects not the King 's nor can his Majesty have any security of your Allegiance any longer than he pleases the Roman Bishop so that he Reigns over you at the Pope's mercy I know many of you English Catholicks have so Loyal an affection for the King that your Church-men are forced to invent many plausible pretences to perswade you that the Supremacy claimed by the Pope
with Oblations of Houses and Lands Plate Vestments Jewels Images and Ready mony And it is very remarkable that the fear of losing this Income was one main Impediment to restrain the Pope from yielding to a Reformation To these may be added the Doctrines of Images and Invocation of Saints with the reports of Miracles done at certain places and the Device of Canonization by the Pope an Honour that none of the Saints for the first five or six Centuries ever had but certain it is that people being perswaded of Miracles wrought on Earth and Intercession made in Heaven by these Saints do undertake Pilgrimages to these places and make Oblations there or else send their Offerings if they cannot go And this in so excessive degrees that there have been and are some Shrines which cu●vy the Treasuries of the greatest Princes of Europe we may instance in Tho. Beckets at Canterbury and the still famous Lady of Loretto The Relicks also of all other Saints yea such as are said to belong to Jesus himself have been formerly carried about to collect Mony yea sold for great sums and are accounted Marketable ware and very gainful Commodities in the Roman Church The Year of Jubilee and distribution of Indulgences are used as devices to get mony as your own Writers complain The Pope's pretences to a power of Dispensing with Vows and Oaths Leagues and Contracts Marriages in prohibited degrees c. fill his Coffers with Silver and his Court with Suitors The taking mony for Penances and granting Absolution upon it for Notorious sins is so known an Infamy that we have the very book in our hands copyed out of the Original in the Apostolick Chamber setting down the rates and sums to be paid for Absolution from the most horrid wickednesses And to convince us that Mony is the only thing sought by the Church in these Absolutions the said book tells us that These acts of Grace cannot be granted to the Poor who have nothing and therefore cannot be comforted And though the Priests and Fryers have these and many more ways to draw Mony from the people yet the Pope uses them but as Spunges to suck in wealth from others that he may squeez it into his own Coffers afterwards For it is scarce within the reach of Arithmetick what sums the Roman Church receives from the Inferior Clergy and Bishops for Institutions Confirmations Investitures Palls First-fruits Tenths c. The very Tenths and First-fruits formerly enjoyed by the Pope amounting in this Nation as we now compute them to above 20000 l. per An. And in the time of the Roman Jurisdiction here the Clergy paid him a fifth part of their Livings sometimes for two or three years beside and for the English Bishops their subjection to Rome cost them dear Walter le Grey Archbish of York paying Ten thousand pound sterling for his Pall And it was complained in the 23 d of Henry 8 th that the Papacy had received out of England in about forty years past for Investitures of Bishops only Threescore thousand pounds And the Doctrine of sorcing all Priests to renounce Marriage is maintained by the Policy of the Roman Court that they may not only profit by them living but be their Heirs when they die there being no other good Reason to be given for this rigid Imposition for sure they will not say it is simply unlawful for Priests to marry since two Popes S. Gregory the Great and Pius the Second affirm They may be allowed to marry and their great Canonist saith There is as great reason to allow Priests marriage now as ever there was to restrain it What then do they forbid it that Priests may be more pure that cannot be the Reason because S. Paul saith Marriage defiles not Heb. xiii 4. And Fornication which certainly doth defile is tolerated if not allowed and called a Venial sin However reputed by their Casuists a lesser sin in the Priest than Marriage And how pure this Doctrine makes your Clergy let Experience and your own Writers teach you There are many saith S. Bernard who cannot be hid for their multitude nor do they seek to be concealed through their Impudence who being kept from Nuptial Remedies run into all filthiness There are few free saith Another in these days from the crime of Fornication The Pope thinking it almost a Miracle some Ages since to hear a Candidate for a Bishoprick attested to be a pure Virgin The true Reason therefore of this Doctrine which occasions so much wickedness we may learn from the Canon Law which allows not Regular Bishops to dispose of their Estates by Will nor others of the Clergy to be too free of their Alms in their sickness how earnestly soever they exhort the Laity thereunto And thus the Church becomes their Heir And these Spoyls of the Clergy as they very significantly term them which fall to the Church at their deaths amount to a good round sum as a judicious Author observes I cannot express one half of those Arts which the Roman Church hath to drein both Clergy and Laity But certain it is they do draw a Mass of Treasure Annually from the Countries under their yoke insomuch that it was complained of to the Council of Spain that Pope Pius 5th had got fourteen Millions out of that Kingdom in a short space And in the time of Henry 3 d of England it was computed that the Popes Revenue out of this Nation exceeded the Kings And another time complaint was made by the English that there went Threescore thousand Marks yearly out of this Land to Rome I shall not mention the Frauds and Cruelties used in Collecting this Mony only noting that Johan Sarisburiensis a great Bigot of the Popes and a hot stickler in Beckets Cause assures us That the Legates of the Apostolical Seat did Tyrannize over the Provinces as if the Devil saith he were gone out from the presence of the Lord to scourge the Church yet to oppose these Officers of the Pope is reckoned at Rome the most mortal sin No wonder then can it be that Pope Sixtus 5 th in five years time got together Five Millions of Crowns as Ciracella informs us Four Millions of which his Successor Gregory 14 th wasted in Pomp and Riot in less than Ten months time Europ Spec. p. 263. And indeed they spend these Sacred Treasures as badly as they get them the very Popes themselves of late designing only to swallow all the little neighbouring Principalities and to make themselves Temporal Princes to raise their Nephews and Neeces if not Sons and Daughters and advance their Families to the highest Dignities and Fortunes So that there is little of Holiness left in them but in an empty Title it being a little above a hundred years since one said No man at this day looks for Holiness in the Popes they are accounted excellent
Church there as an undue Act contrary to the Ancient Canons and all Primitive Constitutions For though saith the Historian the Bishop of Rome for the dignity of his Apostolical Seat be more venerable than other Bishops yet it is not lawful for him in any thing to transgress the Tenor of Canonical rules and as every Bishop of the Orthodox Church is the Spouse of his own See and represents the person of our Saviour so it cannot agree to any Bishop boldly to act any thing in the Diocess of another the like checks the Popes frequently received for medling in France from the Princes of that Nation About that Time also the Bishops of Italy complained of the Roman Vsurpation to the Patriarch of Constantinople as appears by Photius's Letter in answer to that complaint extant in Cardin. Baronius And there are many like Examples in the Historians of those Ages wherein this bold Jurisdiction began first to be exercisedin this Western part of Europe And to this very day the Churches of France do little value the Pope's Supremacy though in other Opinions they agree with the Roman Church as may be seen in the French Writers And it is not long since the King of France was about to take away his Nations dependence from Rome by erecting the Archbishoprick of Burges into a Patriarchate And now why should you be awed into the belief of Evil and inconvenient Doctrines by a pretended Supremacy not given by Christ not challenged by the best Popes not acknowledged by the first Christians not much regarded by some Catholick Countries Why should you be enslaved by an Authority gained by fraud and policy confirmed by force and cruelty enlarged by dividing Christian Princes by the undermining the Empire and oppressing many Ecclesiastical and Temporal persons in their just Rights Why should you fear to renounce an Usurped Jurisdiction since what is unjustly seized on at first can never be legally enjoyed nor is it confirmed by the longest prescription of Time as the Civil Law speaks I must confess I cannot see that any Christians without the Pale of his own Diocess are obliged to own him further than by the respect due to a Bishop of an Ancient Patriarchal See nor so far neither if he be not content with his own and keep not close to the Primitive Faith SECTION VI. Whether the Pope hath any Right to exercise a Jurisdiction over England BUt since my Discourse is directed particularly to the Catholicks of England it will be most considerable to enquire Whether the Roman Bishop can justly claim any Authority over them and if Prejudices were laid aside I doubt not but to make it evident that the Pope neither hath nor ought to have any Authority over this Nation For first let it be considered that Britain was the first of the Provinces which did publickly profess the Faith of Christ saith Sabellicus which is also attested by other more Ancient Writers So that it is agreed on all hands here was a true and perfect Church of Christ near five hundred years before they had any Communication with the Bishop of Rome or knew one syllable of this foundation-Article of the Modern Faith of that Church viz. of the Pope ' s Vniversal Supremacy It is also certain the Church of Britain was not subject to Rome at the time of the First General Council at Nice And in the Sixth Canon of that Council it is decreed concerning the three Patriarchs Jurisdictions That the Ancient custom should be established that Aegypt Lybia and Pentapolis should be subject to the Bishop of Alexandria because the Bishop of Rome had the like Custome and likewise so it was at Antioch and in other Provinces the Priviledges should be preserved to their Churches c. Now the Ancient Custom and Priviledge of this Church of Britain then was to govern it self without subjection to any Forreign Patriarch and the Pope could not usurp any Dominion here afterwards without transgressing this Canon of the most famous General Council especially if we consider how this Canon was expounded in Ruffinus's daies viz. That Rome should have the Government of the Suburbicarian Churches And the Ancient Survey of the Imperial Provinces will tell you what the Suburbicarian Region was viz. Three Islands Sicily Sardinia and Corsica and part of Italy from the East end to the border of Tuscany Westward And this was all the Ancient extent of the Roman Bishops Jurisdiction the rest of Italy being under the Metropolis of Millain which Church of Old paid no Subjection to Rome much less could any be due to him from Britain Again in the Third General Council of Ephesus An. 431. it was decreed That in all Dioceses and Provinces it should hereafter be observed That no Bishop should henceforward lay hold of another Province which had not formerly and from the beginning been under the power of their Predecessors which Canon the Pope must break also before he can assume a power over the Church of Britain which with the Island of Cyprus and some other places was its own head as those Times phrased it and subject to no Patriarch So that when Augustine the Monk coming over to convert the Pagan Saxons required the British Bishops to profess Subjection to the See of Rome They did by virtue of these Canons refuse it telling him They had a Patriarch of their own to whom alone they were subject in Spiritual things under God and Dionothus Abbot of Bangor by divers Arguments shewed they owed no Subjection to the Roman Bishop as an Old Historian informs us And accordingly the British Bishops retained their Old Rites different from Rome and kept their Old Priviledges being consecrated by the Archbishop of S. Davids and he by his own Suffragans making no Profession of Subjection to any other Church saith their Historian which continued till the day of King Henry the First The Saxons indeed shewed more Respect to Rome because it had assisted in their Conversion hence they sometimes asked Advice of the Pope as of an Eminent neighbour Patriarch but their Bishops never professed Subjection to Rome nor did they own his Supremacy or look on him as an Infallible Judge as appears by their not obeying the Pope's Decree made in a Roman Council about restoring Wilfrid to his Archbishoprick of York An. 680. And though the Pope had confirmed and recommended the Canons of the Second Nicene Council about Images the English Church rejected and despised them writing a Book to condemn Image-worship in the name of all the Princes and Bishops of England and sending it to Charles the Great of France by the learned Alcuinus as our Histories do attest And moreover it is evident that all Ecclesiastical Laws were then made by the Saxon Kings and Bishops in their Provincial Councils by their own Authority without ever so much as acquainting the Pope therewith or desiring his