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A62533 The friar disciplind, or, Animadversions on Friar Peter Walsh his new remonstrant religion : the articles whereof are to be seen in the following page : taken out of his history and vindication of the loyal formulary ... / the author Robert Wilson. Talbot, Peter, 1620-1680. 1674 (1674) Wing T116; ESTC R24115 96,556 164

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