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A91886	A short discourse between monarchical and aristocratical government. Or a sober perswasive of all true-hearted Englishmen, to a willing conjunction with the Parliament of England in setting up the government of a common-wealth. By a true Englishman, and well-wisher to the good of this nation.	Robinson, Henry, 1605?-1664?	1649 (1649)	Wing R1678; Thomason E575_31	16,476	20

perfect and natural Heir to his Fathers Quarrel and Design as to his Crown and Dignity But the great thing to be wondred at is That any which love Presbyterial Government should dote on Monarchy especially after the Raign of such a person and stand out against this Government which the Parliament have now set up Aristocracy in Church and Monarchy in State do not run so paralel in the expressions what ever they may do in the sence Kingly Government hath never been yet very propitious or benign to Presbytery the most favour it hath got in any Kingdom is but to have a Toleration as in France and in this Nation it 's hardly a probationer but Episcopacy hath been that ancient Government which hath been bred up with Monarchy and hath of late been its greatest Darling to maintain which much of the Royal Interest hath been engaged the late King making one of the grounds of his War to be the taking away of that Government which he thought to be so fundamental and sacred that all Religion was wrapt up in it and to confirm his love unto it dyed with a Bishop in his arms And such inseparable union is between Monarchy and Episcopacy that King James himself as soon as ever he came out of Scotland into England and found himself to be a King made this State Maxime No Bishop no King which is to this day unrepealed and by experience confirmed for they have both dyed together as Twins in the bosom of each other and if we do but look a little back we shall find that Presbyterial Government never thrived well no not in Scotland the most fertile soil and natural climate wherein it flourisheth most until the King was removed at such a distance and yet what attempts have both King James and Charls made but to overthrow it in Scotland as being most unsuitable to Kingly Government and they have little cause to think that their Charls the Second will forget his Grand-fathers and Fathers Legacy And now we have begun to mention Scotland it may be some may bring in them as a president to us as formerly to the Church so now to the State who notwithstanding all their inconveniencies which they have found by Monarchy yet have thought fit to continue it and that in the right line of Succession It 's well known the Scots love the Name but care little for the Company or Power of a King Neither is it much to be admired that they should proclaim King whom they never intend shall rule over them for they well know how to make use of the Name though they mean not to subject to the Power The Scots are not a Nation of as much state and riches as other Kingdoms but of as much design as any and they well fore-see that whose King soever he be England must maintain him and bear the greatest burthen while they enjoy his small Revenue in Scotland and get places and pensions from him in England so that he must be their King but our Tyrant All that understand the Affairs of Scotland know that were it not for the name of the King the factions of their Nobility and Gentry are so great that Peace could never be kept among themselves and yet if they had a King really among them it would impoverish both Gentry and Nobility who must contribute to maintain him who in England by pensions and places hath set up them But I would not too much open the nakedness of that Nation but wish them much good with their King and his hideous train of Malignants which must necessarily follow him where ever he himself is entertained with any respect or honor Onely they should have given him title to their own Nation and have left our Parliament to have chosen for us who are come to sufficient years of discretion and have learnt to understand both their King and them but it seems it would profit them little to have him King of Scotland if he were not also of Great Britain It is for us to consult our own concernments and not trouble our selves with examples If we chance to differ from other States it 's because they have not the same advantages nor we the same causes and grounds of following them All that is proposed by the Parliament is to reduce us into a Commonwealth and if the name do not offend I know not why should the thing And as to that reverent plea of the Antiquity of Monarchy in this Nation we may answer with grief it hath been too long and we have had time enough to try and feel the sad effects of it and Kingship may very well after so long a personal reign and advancement of it self give way to a Commonwealth that the Nation may get some good and enjoy some Liberty after their long servitude to it Antiquity is an argument for nothing but truth and goodness else error and usurpation will plead its gray hairs and make a demonstration of its divinity with the best advantage And wheras many wise men object the danger of changes in States and Governments the unknown consequences which may follow it 's confest and therefore the Parliament hath took time and deliberation and tryed all expedients and made the best essays for security of the Nation without it But that change cannot be dangerous where the continuation of a former Government in such persons hath proved and is inevitably mischievous as it is in our cause and yet we have not changed our Laws or the Fundamentals of the former Government but onely the persons and mal-administrators of it that it 's but a change of persons and names which have acted and are like to act to our destruction and so hinder mischief from running in a blood And if we will with seriousness and observance look about us we may discern a bright Star of Providence leading us directly to it and a harmony of wonders and mercies accompanying it and blessing on the Parliaments proceedings in it that men which shal oppose it may wel be said to fight against the very arm of the Almighty and slight many a glorious work which God hath done by weak and ordinary instruments And whereas many men nourish their discontents against it by the present distempers they finde in the Nation and are apt to think and be made beleeve That our condition is worse then it was in the time of the late King by reason of Taxes and Oppressions They should consider the cause may be in themselves who give no better ground of security to the Parliament of an honest and faithful compliance but by their new discontents keep up our fears which makes them keep up an Army and had they been wise men who thus object they would have considered that we are not onely framing a new Government but changing the old and that we are not in in Republica Platonis but in face Romuli It 's easie to frame an Idea of a new Government

A SHORT DISCOURSE BETWEEN MONARCHICAL AND ARISTOCRATICAL Government Or a Sober perswasive of all true-hearted Englishmen to a willing conjunction with the PARLIAMENT of ENGLAND In setting up the Government of a Common-wealth By a true Englishman and Well-wisher to the good of this NATION Ad juga cur faciles populi cur saeva volentes Regna pati Pereunt Quoniam non contenti certa libertate in dubiam imperii servitiique aleam imus 1 SAM 8. 6 7. In asking a King they have not rejected me but thee that I should not raign over them LONDON Printed by John Macock for Francis Tyton and are to be sold at his shop at the three Daggers neer the Inner-Temple Fleetstreet 1649. A Short Discourse BETWEEN MONARCHICAL AND ARISTOCRATICAL Government IT is not to be expected by any wise or considerate person to finde an exact Logical series or Mathematical Demonstration in Publike or Political Transactions In which as there are commonly many unknown difficulties to be waded through so there are multitudes of emergencies not possible to be be foreseen dayly breaking forth which give cause as of altering mens thoughts so of changing and shifting the Mediums by which they should have been at first effected Nor can it be imagined That the absolute order of Nature should be strictly kept in these affairs which only Prudence and Providence Govern The want of such like considerations as these hath been a great reason of the discontents and disaffections of the most spirits concerning the management of the great concernment of this Nation Some have looked more after Modum then Rem the circumstance then the action rather how things are done then what is done thinking nothing well done but what they have either been predominant instruments in themselves or else could Analitically resolve according to the rule of their own prejudiced apprehensions It is to be acknowledged That of late through the Apostacy of some and the Indifferency of others and the change of many spirits by cunning yet Malignant influences our affaires in this Nation for the external and circumstantial acting of them have not gone one so smoothly or takingly unto every spirit present necessity absolute conveniency and providence which especially hath had a supremacy over them putting us on many suddain overtures and to leap over many lesser things which some think considerable yea hath forc'd us to do much at once and to hasten on to these works which at another time and in some other cases would have admitted many steps and degrees in the attaining of them Though it 's no great disadvantage to a work if it be done throughly that it 's done suddainly and expeditiously yea many times more time and cost is spent in a Ceremony then by diligent prosecution of advantages would be to attain the thing it self As in great mens houses the paint and the hangings cost more then the house it self But besides the nature of some affairs call for a doing them now or never and men being remote from the Actors and so unacquainted with the present grounds and reasons on which they are acted storm at that which they themselves in the same case and on the same principles would be most forward to attempt not considering until it come to their own cases That where men have to deal with humors as well as persons with Forces and Fictions with general and particular Subordinate Divided and Sub-divided Interests some special liberty must be given to act according to present overtures and some occult reasons pre-supposed which every eye cannot nor may not look into These things premised He that with a sober and untainted judgement considers the late Transactions of the Parliament and Army with the King Their own members and the changing of the former Government into a Common-wealth hath more reason to be astonished at what is done then be discontented at the way and manner of doing them no man being able to imagine That by any means what ever we should have been able to attain to the condition we are now in and especially not so suddenly and with so much advantage to free our selves from such a yoke that neither our fathers nor we were able to bear and certainly had not there bin something divine in it which men care not to observe and had not the finger of the Almighty wrought it for us we had been far from so much as a hope of recovery and ere this day had been reduced to a worse bondage then ever England yet saw And if we will consider what straits and extremities they have been often put unto by the falseness of some and the folly of others what varieties of difficulties they have been encompassed about with through the malice of the common enemy and the imprudence of their own friends and subtle designs of many pretented Patriots we shall see cause enough to wonder where we are come and by what a miraculous strain of providence they have been carryed on to this happy change And however things may be represented in the Glasses of Malignant and humorous Spirits yet if men will make use of a plain Optique and not look through their PASSIONS or ENGAGEMENTS they will see no such Disproportion between the first PRINCIPLE of this WAR and the present actings of things especially considering how we have been led into them though the first Instruments could not see the ultimate end at so great a distance of time and through so many mountains of difficulties that lay in their way God himself also is who loves to non-plus the best of men by his providence acting his own designs beyond the first motions and intentions of men As the first beginnings of all things are usually fair and modest so were they among us in the beginning of this War and though our first principle was fundamental and large enough when we took up Arms viz. The Liberties of this Nation from that Tyrannical Power which was exercised by the late King and for the setting up a free Court of Justice in the Nation in order to which care was taken to put the power of the Militia in the best hands we could find yet the hopes we then had of a sudden effecting it and that by the first means we could use and the controversie being suddenly to be debated and honest men not so well acquainted with their own priviledges nor the ground of the quarrel the Parliament was constrained to express great respects to the King and to state the difference very tenderly and put all the weight of miscarriages on his Councel salving as much as they could his honour yea made many Engagements for advancing of his Grandure and Majesty which was carefully kept and observed as honestly intended until that the necessity of affairs grew on and the King took advantage by all respects to harden his own heart and had quite changed his own condition from what it was when these Engagements were made yea almost all

the principles and spirits of men both in Parliament City and Country being altered by the subtle Insinuations of the King and his Agents and not only a first but second War levyed by the Kings Commission against the Parliament more dangerous then the former though miraculously past over It was now time to take the advantage of providence and make use of that honest power yet left to prosecute our first principles to the best end and go through with that which we did but dally with before and seeing that the King was the only cause of the first and second War and of corrupting all interests and spirits which ever came nigh him and that his evil Councel on whom all was formerly laid was sequestred from him and yet the same things and worse done by him could imagine no other Expedient to preserve the Nation but by removing the prime cause of their misery and seeing the disease was grown desperate to apply a remedy proportionable That if any thing have been acted that seems Heterodox to our first Intentions and Engagements it hath been but to follow the King who frustrated all our hopes and grew to be so dangerous and implacable an Enemy that he left us no other remedy but his death to give us any hope of recovery And now you see that we are like to attain our End Liberty and Justice though we could not at first see the way how and it 's brought about by other mediums then we first intended it neither is any disparagement to us that our Liberties are procured by such a Royal Sacrifice But it is in vain to repeat Those which stumble so much at that unparaleld and most glorious act of Justice done on the late King may be desired to consider what way else was left us to preserve the honest party of this Nation yea the whole Nation besides and to prefer the life of our grand Enemy before the good of a Nation is foolish pity indeed for that our Liberty and his life were grown to be incompetible and inconsistent is most demonstrative seeing he was not so much as sensible of any miscarriages nor repented of a drop of blood shed so plentifully by his Commission but grew so hardned that he would rather dye then consent to these absolute and just grounds of Liberty and Safety that the Parliament so often sent him in order to his advancement and the security of the Kingdom What ever had been done besides would have been but the skinning over the wound while it did inwardly fester and gangrene and have given our Enemies advantage to undo us by our own respects which they could not by their open hostility and force But I am sorry I have detained the Reader so long from a ready compliance with this present Government by repeating the miseries of the old But it 's good sometimes to look back that we may see what Mercies we enjoy at present For my part I cannot but think that Scaffold sacred and no other Sacrifice could have been so expiatory before God or men for that Blood which hath been shed in this Nation then His who was the onely cause of it And yet I cannot blame those that think him to be above Law should judg him to be above punishment And though unto some tender spirits it may seem hard and of ill consequence yet upon second thoughts they will see it necessary and just and the fruits answerable if our new discontexts as well as former pity and indulgence do not frustrate it And certainly our Ancestors were they alive would admire their Childrens fortunes and happiness who have had the opportunity to act that which they thought but durst not speak would be their greatest Mercy viz. To cast off that usurped Government which they felt the Tyranny and Oppression of so many years without hope of Remedy But if any thing of Conscience should be in that your dissent and non-acting may satisfie you and their acting against them who held their Judgments well informed and acted accordingly in that great and impartial work of Justice Let us therefore forget these things which are impossible to be helped and fall on to those things which are possible and necessary and labor to be as conscientious in avoyding ways of making new Divisions as we are in remembering former Miscarriages We are now through providence on a new Foundation and have time to consider our own good and want nothing to make us the happiest Nation under the Sun but the blessing of the Gospel which yet we have and are like to have it shine in greater splendor and a hearty and free compliance with the Government now set up by all honest and ingenuous men who mean to share in the fruits of Truth and Peace together And truly Prudence and Reason that teacheth men to make vertues of necessities may well make men ingenuous in improving advantages and conveniences I know there are many sorts of men to be delt with in this paranatick Some who can onely be perswaded by force and violence as Malignants and debauched spirits and we can onely secure their persons hardly ever gain their consents they have drank so deeply of that cup of delusion Yet the remembrance of their former Compositions may possibly aw them and scrue them into obedience I have better matter to deal withal in this Discourse viz. with honest hearts which are either miscarryed through deceitful pretences or discontented through mistaken apprehensions or have been at least disheartened through want of observance of Gods actings in these affairs and so sit at too great a distance from compliance with this present Government For it 's most true that as many men get their own ends through pretence of Religion so others weakly look on Religion through the disguizes of cunning Politicians which they converse withall And it hath been a great misery to our Cause That honest men have either in the actings of things consul●ed too much with flesh and blood or suffered themselves to be abused by the specious insinuations of those men who have had no reserve of honor and respect but what they could get by such stratagems I dare not undertake to plead for any person or party or to justifie men in any thing I am now pleading for a common good by a convenient Government though I know no reason why men should dis-affect good things out of any prejudice to parties and persons I can love Gold though in the Oar and prize Diamonds though unfiled and unset But to the thing It is not onely to be wished and desired but that which all honest men who love the Interest of England and desire to see but any comfortable issue of these late sad Distractions should be engaged in unanimously to close in with the present Overtures and promote by all means and faithfulness the Government set up by the Parliament and laying aside all particular animosities and waving lesser differences pass an Act