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A19394 An apologie for sundrie proceedings by iurisdiction ecclesiasticall, of late times by some chalenged, and also diuersly by them impugned By which apologie (in their seuerall due places) all the reasons and allegations set downe as well in a treatise, as in certaine notes (that goe from hand to hand) both against proceeding ex officio, and against oaths ministred to parties in causes criminall; are also examined and answered: vpon that occasion lately reuiewed, and much enlarged aboue the first priuate proiect, and now published, being diuided into three partes: the first part whereof chieflie sheweth what matters be incident to ecclesiasticall conisance; and so allowed by statutes and common law: the second treateth (for the most part) of the two wayes of proceeding in causes criminal ... the third concerneth oaths in generall ... Whereunto ... I haue presumed to adioine that right excellent and sound determination (concerning oaths) which was made by M. Lancelot Androvves ....; Apologie: of, and for sundrie proceedings by jurisdiction ecclesiasticall Cosin, Richard, 1549?-1597.; Andrewes, Lancelot, 1555-1626. Quaestionis: nunquid per jus divinum, magistratui liceat, a reo jusjurandum exigere? & id, quatenus ac quousque liceat?. 1593 (1593) STC 5822; ESTC S118523 485,763 578

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to_o be_v contributory_a to_o the_o reparation_n of_o the_o parish_n church_n or_o of_o any_o chapel_n annex_v to_o it_o if_o the_o party_n sue_v a_o prohibition_n direct_v to_o the_o bishop_n surmise_v that_o he_o be_v implead_v touch_v lay_a fee_n in_o court_n christian_n the_o bishop_n shall_v have_v a_o consultation_n upon_o this_o matter_n show_v in_o the_o chancery_n on_o his_o behalf_n and_o partly_o also_o by_o the_o injunction_n which_o be_v set_v out_o by_o the_o queen_n majesty_n in_o the_o first_o year_n of_o her_o reign_n and_o be_v under_o the_o great_a seal_n of_o england_n for_o better_a record_n of_o the_o matter_n her_o highness_n be_v thereunto_o authorise_v by_o act_n of_o parliament_n for_o in_o 1559._o in_o injunction_n publish_v 1559._o these_o be_v contain_v sundry_a utensile_n ornament_n book_n and_o other_o thing_n that_o by_o the_o common_a cost_n of_o every_o parish_n shall_v be_v provide_v and_o from_o time_n to_o time_n supply_v and_o whether_o they_o be_v 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ecclesiastical_a for_o proceed_v ecclesiastical_o against_o refuser_n to_o contribute_v unto_o the_o reparation_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n there_o remain_v a_o judgement_n in_o a_o consultation_n 2._o consultation_n reg._n pag._n 45._o 2._o record_v in_o the_o register_n to_o this_o effect_n viz._n vobis_fw-la significamus_fw-la quod_fw-la super_fw-la reparatione_fw-la &_o emendatione_fw-la defectuum_fw-la corporis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la iuxta_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la approbatam_fw-la facienda_fw-la procedere_fw-la poteritis_fw-la &_o ea_fw-la facere_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la forum_n ecclesiasticum_fw-la noveritis_fw-la pertinere_fw-la dicta_fw-la prohibition_n non_fw-la obstante_fw-la and_o by_o reason_n of_o defect_n in_o reparation_n of_o a_o church_n money_n itself_o may_v lawful_o be_v sue_v for_o in_o a_o court_n ecclesiastical_a as_o 2._o as_o reg._n pag._n 48._o 2._o appear_v by_o another_o consultation_n in_o the_o register_n and_o so_o be_v it_o also_o provide_v by_o statute_n in_o this_o behalf_n among_o other_o thing_n viz._n 1._o viz._n circumspectè_fw-la agatis_fw-la 13._o ed._n 1._o prelate_n may_v punish_v for_o leave_v churchyard_n unclosed_a or_o for_o that_o the_o church_n be_v uncover_v or_o not_o conventent_o deck_v in_o which_o case_n none_o other_o penance_n can_v be_v enjoin_v but_o pecuniary_a chap._n viii_o proof_n in_o general_a that_o sundry_a crime_n and_o offence_n be_v punishable_a by_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n and_o namely_o idolatry_n heresy_n perjury_n or_o laesio_fw-la fidei_fw-la and_o how_o far_o the_o last_o of_o these_o be_v there_o to_o be_v correct_v also_o of_o disturbance_n of_o divine_a service_n or_o not_o frequent_v of_o it_o and_o neglect_v of_o the_o sacrament_n last_o do_v follow_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o realm_n for_o proof_n that_o many_o crime_n also_o and_o offence_n be_v punishable_a by_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a and_o first_o in_o general_n then_o in_o particular_a for_o sundry_a of_o they_o the_o king_n write_v thus_o to_o his_o judge_n 1._o judge_n statut._n circumspectè_fw-la agatis_fw-la 13._o e._n 1._o use_v yourselves_o circumspect_o in_o all_o matter_n concern_v the_o bishop_n of_o norwich_n &_o his_o clergy_n not_o punish_v they_o if_o they_o hold_v plea_n in_o court_n christian_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v mere_o spiritual_a that_o be_v to_o wit_n of_o penance_n enjoin_v for_o mortal_a sin_n etc._n etc._n in_o hospital_n 1._o hospital_n 2._o h._n 5._o ca_fw-mi 1._o that_o be_v of_o any_o other_o foundation_n than_o the_o king_n it_o be_v enact_v that_o ordinary_n shall_v inquire_v of_o the_o foundation_n erection_n and_o governance_n of_o they_o and_o of_o all_o other_o matter_n necessary_a in_o that_o behalf_n and_o thereupon_o make_v thereof_o correction_n and_o reformation_n after_o the_o law_n of_o holy_a church_n as_o to_o they_o belong_v in_o the_o statute_n of_o citation_n it_o be_v permit_v that_o a_o man_n may_v 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si_fw-la propeccato_n well_fw-mi transgressione_n fuerit_fw-la poenitentia_fw-la iniungenda_fw-la iudex_fw-la ecclesiasticus_fw-la habet_fw-la cognitionem_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la pertinet_fw-la ad_fw-la regem_fw-la iniungere_fw-la poenitentias_fw-la nec_fw-la ad_fw-la iudicem_fw-la secularem_fw-la the_o sundry_a consultation_n set_v down_o in_o the_o register_n do_v show_v that_o when_o the_o proceed_n be_v ad_fw-la correctionem_fw-la animae_fw-la for_o some_o sin_n not_o punishable_a in_o the_o temporal_a court_n the_o conisance_n be_v ecclesiastical_a one_o b._n one_o regist._n 45._o a._n b._n example_n shall_v suffice_v viz._n nolumus_fw-la cognitionem_fw-la ecclesiasticam_fw-la in_fw-la ijs_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la forum_n ecclesiae_fw-la &_o maximè_fw-la ad_fw-la correctionem_fw-la animae_fw-la pertinent_a contra_fw-la iustitiam_fw-la impedire_fw-la but_o to_o descend_v to_o more_o particular_n and_o first_o concern_v those_o which_o be_v contrary_a pietati_fw-la in_o deum_fw-la that_o idolatry_n be_v punishable_a by_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a appear_v by_o the_o statute_n 23._o statute_n 5._o eliz._n cap._n 23._o de_fw-fr excommunicato_fw-la capiendo_fw-la afore_o allege_v and_o touch_v heresy_n
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