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A44793 The great case of the tythes and forced maitenance [sic] once more revived the true state thereof enquired into, before the law, under the law, among the Jews : likewise under the Gospel, the true ministers of Christ, their allowance shown : likewise in the corruption of time since Christ, how tythes have been introduced, wherein antiquity is searched, and the judgment of the fathers of the church in several ages produced, besides the Scripture it self examined : in all which is clearly proved, tythes and forced maintenance, are no Gospel maintenance : the Scriptures answered, divers arguments confuted, and objections answered, which are brought by the ministry of this late age : also the institution and division of parishes and their rise, all which are published for the benefit of all, who desire that Gospel order might be established again in all the churches of Christ / F.H. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.; M. L.; Guy, Edward, 17th cent.; Raunce, John, 17th cent. 1665 (1665) Wing H3165; ESTC R22288 63,807 82

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