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archbishop_n laud'_v testimony_n be_v reject_v by_o a_o flat_a denial_n of_o what_o that_o great_a man_n have_v if_o not_o in_o terminis_fw-la in_o effect_n say_v for_o to_o quote_v with_o approbation_n be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v do_v he_o not_o cite_v calvin_n that_o christ_n do_v not_o offer_v we_o only_o the_o benefit_n of_o his_o death_n and_o resurrection_n but_o the_o body_n itself_o in_o which_o he_o suffer_v and_o rise_v be_v not_o bishop_n ridly_n also_o produce_v by_o he_o say_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v the_o very_a true_a and_o natural_a body_n of_o jesus_n christ_n even_o that_o which_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n which_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n which_o sit_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n the_o father_n &_o c._n ibid._n l._n 30._o the_o same_o must_v be_v say_v of_o bishop_n hall_n etc._n etc._n the_o quotation_n out_o of_o bishop_n hall_n bishop_n montague_n and_o bishop_n bilson_n be_v plain_a for_o a_o substantial_a presence_n and_o 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