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A34082 The right of tythes asserted & proved, from divine institution, primitive practice, voluntary donations, and positive laws with a just vindication of that sacred maintenance from the cavils of Thomas Elwood, in his pretended answer to the friendly conference. Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1677 (1677) Wing C5488; ESTC R39378 85,062 252

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it_o be_v not_o bring_v to_o he_o and_o tender_v now_o will_v the_o quaker_n say_v this_o show_v that_o the_o lord_n title_n to_o this_o free-rent_n lie_v in_o the_o gift_n of_o he_o that_o be_v bind_v to_o pay_v it_o and_o that_o the_o property_n of_o it_o be_v vest_v in_o he_o who_o incur_v a_o penalty_n if_o he_o do_v not_o make_v it_o ready_a and_o come_v and_o tender_v it_o t._n e._n be_v a_o rare_a lawyer_n and_o can_v make_v the_o worst_a tenor_n to_o seem_v the_o best_a and_o the_o badge_n of_o have_v no_o right_a at_o all_o to_o a_o thing_n to_o be_v the_o mark_n of_o property_n if_o i_o delight_v to_o talk_v like_o t._n e._n i_o may_v pretend_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sign_n that_o the_o husbandman_n have_v no_o property_n in_o the_o nine_o part_n but_o by_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o parson_n because_o the_o law_n forbid_v he_o to_o lead_v away_o any_o of_o the_o nine_o part_n till_o the_o parson_n have_v notice_n to_o come_v and_o take_v his_o ten_o but_o i_o scorn_v such_o fool_n §_o 37._o and_o now_o he_o be_v force_v pag._n 338._o to_o supply_v his_o emptiness_n of_o matter_n by_o repeat_v his_o old_a silly_a and_o blasphemous_a argument_n that_o it_o be_v ridiculous_a and_o unreasonable_a for_o any_o to_o pretend_v a_o power_n to_o dispose_v of_o those_o profit_n or_o any_o part_n of_o they_o which_o arise_v from_o the_o labour_n stock_n and_o care_n of_o another_o especial_o after_o their_o own_o decease_n which_o i_o have_v sufficient_o baffle_v before_o §_o 30._o and_o here_o i_o will_v only_o remark_n how_o that_o this_o argument_n if_o it_o be_v good_a do_v utter_o take_v away_o all_o the_o impropriator_n right_o to_o their_o estate_n in_o tithe_n how_o much_o soever_o he_o flatter_v they_o before_o pag._n 299._o for_o be_v not_o their_o tithe_n grant_v to_o their_o ancestor_n long_o ago_o and_o by_o they_o settle_v on_o their_o child_n a_o part_n of_o the_o profit_n of_o another_o man_n labour_n stock_n care_n etc._n etc._n and_o do_v they_o not_o claim_v a_o property_n in_o they_o and_o do_v not_o elwood_n tell_v they_o they_o be_v ridiculous_a and_o unreasonable_a man_n to_o think_v any_o can_v grant_v such_o a_o property_n to_o they_o or_o that_o they_o have_v any_o right_n to_o they_o at_o present_a or_o can_v convey_v they_o to_o their_o posterity_n t._n be_v own_o word_n will_v serve_v to_o set_v out_o this_o matter_n let_v any_o impropriator_n read_v his_o book_n pag._n 225_o 335_o 336_o 338_o 339._o and_o then_o let_v i_o bespeak_v they_o in_o t._n be_v own_o phrase_n look_v to_o yourselves_o you_o who_o ancestor_n first_o do_v buy_v these_o tithe_n of_o the_o crown_n or_o into_o who_o possession_n they_o be_v come_v now_o by_o descent_n or_o purchase_n be_v you_o satisfy_v with_o the_o quaker_n be_v plea_n and_o willing_a to_o resign_v you_o hear_v what_o he_o say_v and_o do_v you_o not_o think_v if_o t._n e._n have_v power_n you_o shall_v not_o hear_v of_o this_o after_o another_o manner_n he_o that_o tell_v you_o tithe_n can_v be_v grant_v or_o convey_v if_o opportunity_n serve_v will_v force_v you_o to_o restore_v they_o to_o his_o painful_a husbandman_n see_v elwood_n p._n 297_o 298._o and_o now_o you_o may_v discern_v the_o genius_n of_o this_o double-tongued_a and_o false-hearted_a man_n who_o talk_v backward_o or_o forward_o as_o may_v best_o serve_v his_o turn_n claw_v the_o impropriator_n to_o engage_v they_o to_o take_v his_o part_n against_o the_o clergy_n and_o again_o lay_v down_o assertion_n that_o make_v the_o levite_n of_o old_a the_o clergy_n and_o impropriator_n now_o to_o be_v a_o company_n of_o ridiculous_a and_o unreasonable_a man_n to_o pretend_v a_o right_n to_o tithe_n to_o which_o none_o can_v ever_o grant_v they_o any_o right_n at_o all_o as_o for_o artificer_n pay_v tithe_n of_o their_o gain_n it_o be_v no_o more_o than_o what_o they_o be_v oblige_v to_o by_o s._n paul_n rule_n galat._n vi_fw-la 6._o to_o give_v their_o pastor_n a_o share_n of_o all_o good_a thing_n and_o it_o be_v enjoin_v by_o s._n augustine_n and_o by_o s._n ambrose_n and_o by_o divers_a saxon_a law_n cite_v before_o and_o since_o they_o have_v soul_n to_o save_v as_o well_o as_o other_o they_o seem_v oblige_v to_o it_o in_o reason_n and_o conscience_n but_o this_o be_v seldom_o demand_v except_o in_o great_a city_n where_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n enjoin_v it_o final_o we_o grant_v to_o t._n e._n tithe_n be_v due_a out_o of_o the_o profit_v only_o and_o therefore_o if_o god_n give_v no_o increase_n or_o the_o husbandman_n have_v nothing_o grow_v we_o expect_v no_o tithe_n at_o all_o and_o how_o be_v this_o unreasonable_a §_o 38._o the_o quaker_n will_v not_o grant_v that_o his_o argument_n for_o take_v away_o tithe_n tend_v to_o destroy_v hospital_n and_o donation_n to_o the_o poor_a for_o this_o reason_n sorsooth_o pag._n 542._o because_o in_o that_o of_o the_o poor_a there_o be_v say_v he_o a_o settlement_n of_o certain_a land_n in_o which_o the_o donor_n have_v a_o legal_a property_n at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o gift_n but_o in_o the_o increase_n of_o the_o occupier_n stock_n he_o that_o give_v tithe_n neither_o have_v nor_o never_o can_v have_v a_o property_n and_o therefore_o no_o power_n to_o give_v we_o have_v note_v before_o that_o by_o his_o rule_n frame_v against_o tithe_n all_o donation_n make_v by_o papist_n on_o consideration_n of_o merit_v and_o expiate_v their_o sin_n thereby_o be_v void_a and_o this_o will_v destroy_v a_o great_a many_o of_o these_o hospital_n and_o gift_n to_o the_o poor_a again_o by_o his_o own_o confession_n all_o hospital_n endow_v out_o of_o tithe_n and_o all_o gift_n to_o the_o poor_a grant_v out_o of_o tithe_n for_o perpetuity_n be_v void_a and_o since_o in_o king_n henry_n the_o eighth_n time_n there_o be_v several_a such_o instance_n and_o the_o famous_a hospital_n of_o sutton_n call_v the_o charterhouse_n have_v one_o part_n of_o its_o revenue_n in_o tithe_n now_o if_o t._n be_v argument_n be_v good_a these_o hospital_n and_o gift_n also_o must_v necessary_o be_v destroy_v or_o much_o impair_v a_o three_o sort_n of_o these_o charitable_a donation_n consist_v of_o perpetual_a rent-charge_n and_o certain_a sum_n of_o money_n to_o be_v pay_v yearly_o for_o ever_o out_o of_o the_o profit_n of_o some_o certain_a estate_n i_o myself_o know_v a_o estate_n of_o 40_o l._n per_fw-la annum_fw-la the_o heir_n whereof_o for_o ever_o be_v charge_v to_o pay_v 10_o l._n per_fw-la annum_fw-la out_o of_o the_o profit_n of_o that_o estate_n to_o the_o poor_a of_o three_o parish_n by_o the_o grant_n of_o a_o pious_a person_n decease_v and_o there_o be_v hundred_o of_o such_o instance_n in_o england_n now_o the_o occupier_n of_o the_o land_n thus_o charge_v must_v sell_v the_o four_o or_o other_o part_n of_o the_o profit_v produce_v by_o their_o labour_n sweat_v stock_n skill_n and_o industry_n and_o when_o it_o be_v turn_v into_o money_n must_v pay_v it_o entire_o to_o the_o poor_a of_o those_o parish_n and_o hospital_n who_o never_o do_v any_o thing_n for_o this_o occupant_a only_o because_o he_o inherit_v or_o be_v possess_v of_o the_o land_n former_o thus_o charge_v by_o its_o ancient_a pious_a owner_n he_o must_v pay_v such_o a_o part_n of_o the_o say_a profit_n now_o t._n e._n overthrow_v all_o these_o donation_n also_o in_o affirm_v that_o no_o man_n can_v charge_v his_o heir_n for_o ever_o with_o such_o a_o part_n of_o the_o profit_n arise_v out_o of_o their_o or_o their_o tenant_n charge_v stock_n care_n skill_n many_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o donor_n the_o money_n for_o these_o payment_n be_v raise_v out_o of_o the_o increase_n of_o the_o occupier_n stock_n wherein_o according_a to_o t._n e._n no_o man_n now_o decease_v ever_o have_v or_o can_v have_v a_o property_n and_o therefore_o no_o power_n to_o give_v that_o these_o donation_n also_o be_v make_v void_a by_o t._n be_v wicked_a and_o sophistical_a arguing_n so_o that_o however_o the_o quaker_n destroy_v all_o charitable_a donation_n except_v such_o as_o be_v make_v in_o land_n give_v whole_o to_o the_o hospital_n or_o other_o poor_a and_o true_o these_o will_v not_o stand_v long_o neither_o for_o all_o other_o man_n believe_v the_o ancient_a donor_n have_v not_o more_o or_o better_a right_o to_o give_v away_o the_o land_n itself_o than_o they_o have_v to_o dispose_v of_o such_o a_o part_n of_o the_o profit_v thereof_o t._n e._n who_o question_n be_v the_o one_o may_v question_v the_o other_o also_o and_o thus_o that_o he_o may_v starve_v the_o clergy_n he_o attempt_v to_o starve_v all_o the_o poor_a in_o england_n also_o in_o their_o company_n §_o 39_o his_o next_o position_n pag._n 343._o be_v that_o tithe_n be_v a_o