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the_o archbishop_n in_o this_o manner_n for_o as_o much_o as_o all_o jurisdiction_n as_o well_o ecclesiastical_a as_o secular_a proceed_v from_o kingly_a power_n as_o from_o the_o head_n we_o give_v thou_o power_n to_o promote_v by_o these_o present_n to_o holy_a order_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n use_v this_o stile_n we_o n._n by_o the_o divine_a permission_n archbishop_n and_o primate_n of_o england_n authorize_v sufficient_o by_o the_o king_n or_o queen_n majesty_n etc._n etc._n this_o argue_v that_o in_o england_n all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n to_o excommunicare_fw-la absolve_v to_o preach_v and_o minister_v sacrament_n to_o call_v synod_n to_o decree_v in_o they_o to_o make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n etc._n etc._n proceed_v from_o the_o prince_n as_o from_o the_o head_n and_o fountain_n and_o consequent_o see_v that_o what_o authority_n the_o prince_n give_v to_o other_o he_o have_v himself_o he_o may_v excommunicate_v make_v ecclesiastical_a 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the_o nicen_n council_n 24._o ruffinus_n li._n 1._o cap._n 2._o euseb_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-la vita_fw-la constant_n cap._n 24._o his_o god_n and_o judge_n and_o as_o eusebius_n report_v he_o be_v wont_a to_o say_v to_o bishop_n vos_fw-fr o_o episcopi_fw-la intra_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ego_fw-la extra_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la episcopus_fw-la constitutus_fw-la sum_fw-la you_o o_o bishop_n in_o affair_n with_o in_o the_o church_n i_o in_o matter_n without_o the_o church_n be_o appoint_v point_a bishop_n by_o god_n mean_v that_o he_o be_v to_o be_v a_o vigilant_a prince_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o empire_n but_o not_o to_o meddle_v with_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n and_o therefore_o when_o the_o donatist_n in_o a_o matter_n pertaininge_v to_o the_o church_n decide_v appeal_v from_o a_o council_n of_o bishop_n hold_v by_o pope_n meichiade_n unto_o he_o non_fw-la est_fw-la ausus_fw-la say_v s._n 162._o august_n epi._n 162._o augustin_n christianus_n imperator_n sic_fw-la eorum_fw-la tumultuosas_fw-la &_o fallace_n quaerelas_n suscipere_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la iudicio_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la qui_fw-la romae_fw-la sederant_fw-la ipse_fw-la iudicaret_fw-la he_o dare_v not_o so_o to_o admit_v their_o complaint_n as_o to_o judge_n of_o the_o bishop_n who_o in_o rome_n have_v sit_v in_o judgement_n yea_o optatus_n say_v finem_fw-la optat._n lib._n 1._o cont_n parm._n circa_fw-la finem_fw-la that_o when_o he_o see_v they_o appeal_v in_o such_o a_o matter_n unto_o he_o he_o exclame_v o_o rabida_fw-la furoris_fw-la audacia_fw-la sicut_fw-la in_o causis_fw-la gentilium_fw-la fieri_fw-la solet_fw-la appellationem_fw-la interposuerunt_fw-la o_o wood_n mad_a audacity_n of_o fury_n they_o have_v interpose_v a_o appellation_n as_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o cause_n of_o gentile_n 174._o tortura_fw-la tort._n pa._n 174._o whereas_o doctor_n andrews_n say_v that_o constantin_n delegated_a the_o bishop_n to_o hear_v the_o donatist_n cause_n i_o demand_n whereon_o he_o ground_v that_o for_o if_o he_o may_v delegate_v he_o may_v have_v judge_v of_o the_o bishop_n sentence_n and_o yet_o s._n augustin_n say_v he_o dare_v not_o and_o although_o at_o last_o overcome_v by_o their_o importunity_n he_o hear_v they_o yet_o not_o as_o judge_v but_o as_o a_o arbiter_n theodosius_fw-la the_o young_a send_v count_n candidianuâ—_n to_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n with_o this_o caveat_n that_o he_o shall_v not_o meddle_v in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n because_o illicitum_fw-la est_fw-la eum_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la ex_fw-la ordine_fw-la sanctissimoram_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la sese_fw-la eccelesiasticis_fw-la immiscere_fw-la tractatibus_fw-la it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o he_o that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o order_n of_o most_o holy_a bishop_n to_o intermeddle_v himself_o in_o ecclesiastical_a treaty_n and_o affair_n but_o doctor_n andrew_n answer_v 175._o tortura_fw-la torti_n pa._n 175._o that_o it_o be_v no_o good_a argument_n to_o say_v a_o count_n can_v not_o meddle_v in_o counsel_n ergo_fw-la a_o emperor_n can_v but_o he_o shall_v have_v remember_v that_o this_o count_n be_v send_v to_o supply_v the_o emperor_n place_n and_o therefore_o if_o he_o as_o the_o emperor_n ambassador_n can_v not_o meddle_v in_o counsel_n neither_o can_v the_o emperor_n himself_o he_o shall_v also_o have_v mark_v the_o emperor_n reason_n which_o be_v because_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o he_o that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o order_n of_o bishop_n to_o meddle_v in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n which_o reason_n aswell_o exclude_v the_o emperor_n as_o the_o count_n unless_o doctor_n andrew_n will_v make_v all_o king_n and_o emperor_n bishop_n valentinian_n the_o elder_a say_v 2.1_o sozom._n 16_o ca._n 7._o &_o 2.1_o sibi_fw-la qui_fw-la unus_fw-la è_fw-la laicorum_fw-la numero_fw-la erat_fw-la non_fw-la licere_fw-la se_fw-la huiusmodi_fw-la rebus_fw-la interponere_fw-la it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o he_o who_o be_v one_o of_o the_o laiety_n to_o meddle_v in_o such_o matter_n and_o although_o doctor_n andrew_n will_v expound_v zozomen_n who_o report_v this_o speech_n of_o the_o emperor_n by_o nicephorus_n 8._o hist_o tri._n part_n lib._n 7._o
also_o with_o great_a consent_n both_o of_o the_o latin_a and_o greek_a church_n and_o in_o it_o be_v present_v the_o patriatche_n of_o constant_a inopole_n and_o jerusalem_n in_o their_o proper_a person_n the_o patriatche_n of_o alexandria_n and_o antioch_n by_o their_o legate_n archbishop_n latin_a and_o greeke_n 70._o bishop_n 412._o abbot_n and_o priour_o above_o 800._o the_o total_a number_n of_o all_o the_o prelares_fw-la be_v at_o least_o 1215._o the_o legate_n also_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o roman_a emperor_n of_o the_o king_n of_o jerusalem_n france_n spain_n england_n and_o other_o prince_n be_v present_a with_o the_o rest_n this_o council_n then_o call_v the_o great_a for_o the_o number_n of_o prelate_n in_o the_o three_o chapter_n after_o excommunication_n pronounce_v against_o heretic_n admonish_v secular_a power_n and_o command_v they_o to_o purge_v their_o country_n from_o heretic_n and_o to_o promise_v the_o same_o by_o oath_n then_o the_o council_n add_v si_fw-la verò_fw-la dominus_fw-la temporalis_fw-la etc._n etc._n 3._o council_n late_a sub_fw-la innoc_n 111._o cap._n 3._o but_o if_o the_o temporal_a lord_n be_v require_v and_o admonish_v by_o the_o church_n shall_v neglect_v to_o purge_v his_o land_n or_o territory_n from_o heretical_a lewdness_n let_v he_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o metropolitan_a and_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o comprovinciall_a bishop_n and_o if_o he_o contemn_v to_o satisfy_v within_o a_o year_n let_v this_o his_o contempt_n be_v signify_v to_o the_o chief_a bishop_n the_o pope_n that_o from_o that_o time_n he_o the_o pope_n may_v denounce_v his_o vasalle_n free_v from_o all_o fidelity_n unto_o he_o and_o may_v expose_v his_o land_n to_o be_v possess_v by_o catholik_o who_o heretic_n be_v exterminate_v may_v possess_v it_o without_o any_o contradiction_n and_o conserve_v it_o in_o purity_n of_o faith_n without_o prejudice_n to_o the_o principal_a lord_n so_o that_o he_o put_v no_o obstacle_n nor_o impediment_n the_o 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in_o prâ—f_n monit_fw-la pag._n 37._o and_o consequent_o can_v reject_v this_o which_o be_v of_o the_o same_o authority_n to_o say_v that_o the_o pope_n speak_v only_o of_o they_o who_o be_v subject_a temporal_o to_o his_o temporal_a authority_n which_o he_o have_v in_o italy_n be_v ridiculous_a because_o the_o word_n be_v general_n and_o if_o they_o be_v restrain_v to_o italy_n the_o decree_n can_v have_v have_v little_a force_n to_o say_v that_o absolute_a prince_n be_v not_o comprehend_v in_o this_o decree_n but_o only_o inferior_a prince_n who_o hold_v feudum_fw-la regale_n of_o they_o be_v absurd_a for_o a_o little_a before_o this_o allege_v decree_n the_o council_n ordain_v that_o seculares_fw-la potestates_fw-la secular_a power_n must_v take_v a_o oath_n to_o expel_v heretic_n out_o of_o their_o country_n which_o word_n secular_a power_n agree_v to_o absolute_a king_n and_o emperor_n else_o when_o s._n paul_n command_v that_o every_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o high_a power_n potestatibus_fw-la sublimiâ—ribus_fw-la 13._o rom._n 13._o king_n and_o emperor_n must_v be_v except_v because_o they_o go_v not_o under_o the_o name_n of_o power_n and_o immediate_o after_o this_o admonition_n the_o council_n add_v the_o allege_v decree_n si_fw-mi verò_fw-la dominus_fw-la temporalis_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o of_o the_o temporal_a lord_n etc._n etc._n where_o she_o call_v the_o same_o dominos_fw-la temporales_fw-la temporal_a lord_n who_o before_o she_o call_v potestates_fw-la saeculares_fw-la secular_a power_n and_o be_v not_o king_n and_o emperor_n domini_fw-la temporales_fw-la temporal_a lord_n yea_o and_o principal_o and_o more_o proper_o to_o be_v call_v so_o than_o those_o prince_n that_o hold_v of_o other_o if_o widdrington_n will_v deny_v this_o title_n to_o our_o king_n he_o will_v be_v count_v a_o traitor_n and_o what_o can_v they_o allege_v against_o those_o other_o so_o express_v word_n eâdem_fw-la nihilominus_fw-la lege_fw-la seruatâ_fw-la circa_fw-la 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when_o the_o great_a controversy_n be_v about_o rhis_n matter_n none_o but_o the_o emperor_n depose_v and_o his_o follower_n schismatickes_n as_o he_o be_v do_v contradict_v the_o pope_n sentence_n of_o deposition_n yea_o than_o the_o king_n of_o england_n william_n the_o conqueror_n alphonsus_n king_n of_o castille_n philip_n king_n of_o france_n kanuius_n king_n of_o denmarcke_n count_n robert_n of_o flaunders_n and_o other_o prince_n hold_v league_n and_o amity_n with_o gregory_n the_o seven_o against_o the_o emperor_n and_o his_o antipope_n med_a baron_fw-fr tom_fw-mi 11._o a_o 1084_o et_fw-la anno_fw-la 1085._o n._n 11._o &_o 12_o in_o greg._n 7._o epist_n ad_fw-la greg._n 7._o quam_fw-la referunt_fw-la magdeburgenses_n cent._n 11._o cap._n 8._o de_fw-la schismatibus_fw-la circa_fw-la med_a as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o baronius_n in_o his_o eleven_o tome_n yea_o the_o emperor_n depose_v plead_v that_o he_o can_v not_o be_v depose_v but_o for_o heresy_n confess_v that_o he_o may_v 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to_o my_o sovereign_n speak_v no_o more_o of_o he_o then_o any_o other_o prince_n but_z abstract_v from_o all_o prince_n fact_n and_o case_n in_o particular_a i_o intend_v only_o to_o dispute_v as_o i_o have_v hitherto_o of_o the_o pope_n right_a and_o authority_n over_o prince_n in_o general_n the_o first_o clause_n of_o the_o oath_n i._o a._n b._n do_v true_o and_o sincere_o acknowledge_v profess_v and_o testify_v in_o my_o conscience_n before_o god_n and_o the_o world_n that_o our_o sovereign_a lord_n king_n james_n be_v lawful_a and_o true_a king_n of_o this_o realm_n and_o of_o all_o other_o his_o majesty_n dominion_n and_o country_n 12._o i_o will_v not_o stand_v much_o with_o widdrington_n about_o this_o clause_n because_o all_o catholic_n will_v acknowledge_v his_o majesty_n that_o now_o be_v for_o their_o prince_n and_o king_n and_o will_v swear_v also_o fidelity_n unto_o he_o in_o all_o temporal_a matter_n and_o this_o oath_n have_v be_v offer_v by_o the_o catholic_n in_o a_o 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