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A29447 A brief discovery of a threshold estate of Antichrist now extant in the world viz., a description of 1. the true and false temple, 2. the false ministery, and 3. the false churches : whereunto is added the trial of one George Fox in Lancashire, with his answer to eight articles exhibited against him, being sent in a letter from Keller to some friends in York-shire : also, certain queries upon a petition lately presented to the Parliament from divers gentlemen and others in Worcester-shire : necessary to be answered by the petitioners who are said to be 6000 in number. Buttivant, Samuel. 1653 (1653) Wing B4585; ESTC R29903 15,599 25

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his flesh and the Father and the Son are one and they are the Sons of God and they that are joyned to the Lord are one Spirit and they that are joyned to an Harlot are one flesh these the Scriptures witness and I witness 5. That God taught deceit Answ. That is false and was never spoken by me 6. That the Scriptures were Antichrist Answ. That is false I spoke it not but that they which profess the Scriptures and live not in the life and power of them as he did that gave them forth this I witness to be Antichrist 7. That he was the Judge of the world Answ. That the Saints shall judge the world that the Scripture witnesseth whereof I am one and do witness the Scripture fulfilled 6. That he was as upright as Christ Answ. These words were not spoken by me but that as he is so are we in this world that the Saints are made the righteousness of God that the Saints are one in the Father and the Son that we shall be like him and that all teaching which is given forth by Jesus Christ is to bring up the hearers to perfection even to the measure stature and fulness of Christ this the Scripture witnesseth and I witness the Scripture fulfilled in me Certain Queries to the substance of the Worcester-shire Petition very necessary to be answered by the Petitioners thereof said to be 6000. 1. THey say we know he granted their Commission speaking of the Ministers of the Gospel taking the Ministers of England in with them upon the reception of his Plenipotency and upon his Ascension gave them for the perfecting of the Saints and the edifying of the body till they come to his fulness c. as in Eph. 4.9 to the 15. and hath promised to be with them to the end of the world to keep them stedfast that they may not be tossed about with every winde of doctrine c. Querie I. Whether ever any of the Ministers now in England have received the power to bring up the Saints of God to perfection as in the 12 verse of the 4 of the Ephesians And whether by the Spirit of God dwelling in them any by them have been brought up to such a full unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God even unto a perfect man and unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ yea or no as in vers. 13. Querie II. Whether they think Christ lyed when he said he would be with them to the end of the world or do they mistrust Christ when they petition men to maintain and uphold them 2. They say The labourer is worthy of his hire and the holy Ghost saith Who goeth a warfare at his own charge They that minister about holy things live of the things of the Temple even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel as quoted by them 1 Cor. 9. to the 15. Querie III. Whether the Ministers of England pretending to fight Christs battel ought not to stand to such wages as Christ agreed with them when they were received into his service or otherwise give over fighting for him And whether they take the good counsel of John to the souldiers Be content with your wages as in Luke 3.13 14. Querie IV. Whether now Jesus Christ hath let out his Vineyard onely to the Ministers of England yea or no Querie V. Whether now Christ onely hath resigned over his flock to be fed by the Ministers of England and they to have all the profit thereof and rule the Lambs of Christ at their own wills yea or no Querie VI Whether they have any further hope of any thing but carnal things for plowing sowing and threshing out their spiritual things as they call them And whether they will stand to Christ to provide for them or forsake Christ and cleave to the world for relief seeing none can serve two masters but they must forsake the one as in Luke 16.13 Querie VII Whether these Ministers and their partakers who go about to establish Tythes or as great maintenance in their own hands by a Law are not of a quite contrary spirit to the Apostle Paul who saith We have not used this power but suffer all things left we should hinder the Gospel of Christ Querie VIII Whether the Temple and Altar were not figures of and shadowed out Jesus Christ the substance of all good things And whether the Gospel of God and Jesus Christ be not all one And whether all who serve about Christ taking him for their Master ought to take more from him then he giveth them freely without being guilty of theft and put out of their service Querie IX Whether they ought not to follow Paul as he followed Christ And whether or no Paul followed Christ when he said I have used none of these things taking any thing but what was freely communicated to him neither did he write to the Corinthians that they should do so unto him but said It were better for me to die then that any should make my glorying void And whether these care for either Christ or his Gospel declaring so they can but have their own desires fulfilled with Tythes or yeerly stipends of money 3. They say God hath always broken those powers that have disobeyed and abused their Ministers quoting 2 Chron 36.15 16 17. and hath severely dealt in England before our eyes with that generation of men that silenced reproached and persecuted them Querie X. Whether the late Bishops and the greatest of the Clergie in England that took the late King's part against the Parliament and subjects of England were not esteemed the onely Orthodox men by these Petitioners And whether many of them that are alive now be not the onely promoters of this Renting Petition put up in the names of six thousand Worcester-shire-men Querie XI Whether the Petitioners if God should bring to condignity their Town-clerks would not bestir themselves to raise a new War to uphold them Querie XII Whether those Messengers and Prophets of God whom the Lord sent and the world evil intreated did ever petition the Powers of the world to maintain and uphold them And whether they did at all perswade the Rulers to suppress all but themselves or did they ever persecute any but suffered patiently and were persecuted of all 4. They say We offer but the same request to you in your places which Christ hath commanded us to offer to God himself That where the harvest is great and the labourers are few more labourers may be sent into the harvest Querie XIII Whether those fools and unwise think that the Parliament of England be the Lord of the harvest which Christ speaketh of Mat. 9.38 Querie XIIII Whether it be not high Blasphemy to take honour from God and to give it to men when the Lord saith he will not give his honour to any but himself and how can those who blaspheam God ever think to be prospered by him and whether for such-like Practises God will not soon cut off all such false Messengers Querie XV Whether it be not below the Saints priviledge to Petition or make address unto Counsellors of men seeing they have priviledge make address unto and ask counsel of the Lord or whether those who ask counsel of men believe that God would hear them or know what God is Querie XVI Whether God having sent many Labourers into his Vinyard they asking nothing but the Lords wages a Peny and not desire it until they have finished their work ought to be rooted out of the Vineyard by the Blasphemous Clergie as will be made appear they are who will not work without the worlds wages And whether they can have both the wages of God and of the world seeing one is pure and the other polluted and cannot agree together and whether they can be once called the Ministers of Christ which dare not trust him for their wages By Ben. Nic. In the World are Gods many and Lords many so called but thou onely art our Lord and we seek for salvation at none else 1 Cor. 8.5 6. and in vain is salvation looked for from the hills c. Ier. 3.23 Farewel Mend with your Pen in Letter what 's amiss Mend by the Spirit in life what Error is FINIS Rev. 1.13 Rev. 11.9 10 Isa. 1. Isa. 3.11 12 c. Mat. 5.40 Jer. 15.12 Eph. 5.23 James 5.5 Rev. 21.8 Rer. 22.15 Eph. 5.1 2. Rev. 14.9 10 11. Amos 8. John 4. Mat. 24. Isa. 66.12 2 Cor. 6.17 18 19. Mal. 2. cha. Isa. 56.10 11. Mat. 23. Amos 8.3 Rev. 13.8 9. Rev. 14.9 10.11 1 Cor. 8.10 1 Co. 6.19 2 Cor. 6.16 17 18. Isa. 66.1 Rev. 21.2 3. Act. 7.27 28.29 Act. 17.24 25. Jer. 5.30 Jer. 23. Ezek. 54. Isa. 56.9 10 11. Mic. 3.11 Mal. 2.1 2 3 9. Ezek. 13. Mat. 23. Joh. 10. Rom. 1.29 30 31 32. Eph. 5.3 4 5. Rom. 6.16 Isa. 1.24 Isa. 3.13 14. Isa. 6.15 16. 1 Cor. 6.9 10 11. Rev 21.8 22.15 Mat. 7.19 Isa. 66.15.16 Rom. 1.18 Rom. 2.5 6 1 Pet. 3.11 12. Mat. 5.32 33 34. Exo. 9.29 Isa. 24.1 Isa. 26.1 2. Amos 6.1 Isa. 5.18 Jam. 5.5 2 Cor. 6.16 Eph 4.6 2 Pet. 1.4 Gal. 3.27 1 Cor. 10.23 Joh 6.34.55 Heb. 2.11 Eph. 5.30 1 Cor. 6.7 2 3. 1 Joh. 4.17 2 Cor. 2.21 Eph. 4.11 12.13