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A69830 A vindication of the Parliament of England, in answer to a book written by William Molyneux of Dublin, Esq., intituled, The case of Irelands being bound by acts of Parliament in England, stated by John Cary ... Cary, John, d. 1720? 1698 (1698) Wing C734; ESTC R22976 59,166 136

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shall_v inquire_v no_o far_o into_o that_o matter_n and_o this_o after_o all_o you_o have_v say_v seem_v plain_a from_o the_o action_n of_o those_o very_a time_n for_o the_o same_o king_n henry_n iii_o who_o best_o know_v what_o privilege_n he_o have_v grant_v in_o the_o fourteen_o year_n of_o his_o reign_n make_v a_o law_n to_o bind_v ireland_n call_v statutum_n hiberniae_fw-la which_o pass_v at_o westminster_n the_o 9th_o of_o february_n 1229._o which_o be_v about_o the_o same_o time_n he_o impower_v richard_n de_fw-fr burgh_n to_o summon_v together_o the_o people_n of_o ireland_n pag._n 52._o which_o you_o will_v have_v to_o be_v a_o parliament_n but_o i_o much_o doubt_v it_o note_v that_o this_o be_v twelve_o year_n after_o the_o two_o great_a charter_n from_o bristol_n and_o gloucester_n pag._n 45_o and_o 47._o and_o now_o methinks_v you_o seem_v to_o differ_v from_o what_o you_o have_v say_v before_o pag._n 29._o that_o henry_n ii_o do_v not_o only_o settle_v the_o law_n of_o england_n in_o ireland_n etc._n etc._n but_o do_v likewise_o allow_v they_o the_o freedom_n of_o hold_v parliament_n in_o ireland_n as_o a_o separate_a and_o distinct_a kingdom_n from_o england_n for_o which_o you_o quote_v sir_n edward_n cook_n and_o pag._n 56._o you_o say_v mr._n pryn_n acknowledge_v one_o viz._n a_o parliament_n in_o ireland_n in_o henry_n two_o d's_o time_n and_o now_o pag._n 58._o you_o say_v till_o a_o regular_a legislature_n be_v establish_v among_o they_o and_o this_o be_v after_o the_o three_o first_o king_n viz._n henry_n ii_o richard_n i._n and_o king_n john_n so_o that_o here_o you_o grant_v there_o be_v no_o parliament_n settle_v in_o ireland_n till_o henry_n iiid_n day_n and_o yet_o you_o allow_v pag._n 58._o that_o till_o that_o time_n ireland_n be_v govern_v by_o the_o statute_n law_n of_o england_n your_o word_n be_v speak_v of_o the_o statute_n law_n of_o england_n we_o must_v repute_v they_o to_o have_v submit_v to_o these_o likewise_o if_o so_o than_o all_o the_o grant_n of_o henry_n ii_o richard_n i._n and_o king_n john_n do_v not_o discharge_v the_o people_n of_o ireland_n from_o be_v govern_v by_o the_o statute_n law_n of_o england_n pray_v then_o when_o and_o how_o come_v they_o to_o be_v discharge_v i_o think_v now_o the_o onus_fw-la probandi_fw-la lie_n plain_o on_o your_o side_n the_o charter_n of_o henry_n iii_o before_o recite_v do_v not_o discharge_v they_o nor_o do_v that_o of_o king_n john_n but_o rather_o bound_v they_o fast_o the_o word_n be_v pag._n 53._o coram_fw-la eye_n publicae_fw-la legi_fw-la faciatis_fw-la chartam_fw-la etc._n etc._n &_o precipiatis_o eye_n exparte_v nostra_fw-la quod_fw-la leges_fw-la illas_fw-la &_o consuetudines_fw-la in_o charta_fw-la praedicta_fw-la contentas_fw-la de_fw-la caetero_fw-la firmiter_fw-la teneant_fw-la &_o observent_fw-la so_o that_o by_o your_o own_o argument_n it_o do_v appear_v that_o the_o people_n of_o ireland_n be_v bind_v to_o obey_v the_o statute_n make_v in_o 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mention_n can_v be_v no_o