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A61518 A peace-offering an earnest and passionate intreaty, for peace, unity, & obedience ... Stileman, John, d. 1685. 1662 (1662) Wing S5554; ESTC R12102 300,783 364

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presbyteri_fw-la ne_fw-la pereat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la alios_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la cogant●●_n ordinare_fw-la ego_fw-la non_fw-la ausim_fw-la bujusmodi_fw-la ordinationes_fw-la pronunciare_fw-la irritas_fw-la daven_n determ_fw-la quaest_n 42._o if_o the_o
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