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heart_n of_o all_o heretic_n that_o hate_v the_o apostolic_a sea_n and_o he_o only_o for_o that_o he_o sit_v and_o govern_v so_o worthy_o therein_o which_o they_o can_v abide_v but_o let_v we_o see_v what_o they_o object_n against_o he_o in_o this_o behalf_n 26._o what_o be_v there_o say_v he_o in_o this_o pope_n for_o his_o judgement_n in_o divinity_n that_o his_o determination_n shall_v be_v expect_v about_o this_o oath_n of_o allegâ—â—â—ce_n to_o his_o majesty_n more_o than_o in_o his_o predecessor_n clemens_n who_o opinion_n be_v not_o inquire_v of_o about_o the_o oath_n for_o conspiracy_n against_o the_o whole_a realm_n whereunto_o i_o answer_v that_o for_o so_o much_o as_o the_o other_o oath_n of_o conspiracy_n if_o any_o such_o be_v be_v but_o between_o certain_a particular_a man_n who_o do_v upon_o discontentment_n conspire_v together_o and_o bind_v one_o the_o other_o by_o oath_n to_o secrecy_n &_o do_v presume_v that_o both_o pope_n clement_n &_o this_o pope_n if_o they_o 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in_o that_o accomptâ—_n as_o if_o m._n barlow_n will_v take_v upon_o he_o to_o pay_v that_o debt_n and_o to_o answer_v that_o only_a paragraph_n for_o he_o i_o shall_v say_v that_o he_o be_v his_o friend_n indeed_o wherefore_o i_o expect_v the_o event_n in_o the_o very_a next_o line_n follow_v m._n barlow_n do_v so_o break_o recite_v my_o word_n about_o mâ—â—â—is_fw-la aliena_fw-la 30._o another_o man_n harvest_n for_o so_o do_v the_o apologer_n write_v that_o english_a catholic_n be_v to_o the_o pope_n that_o he_o make_v neither_o i_n nor_o himself_o to_o be_v understand_v read_v i_o pray_v you_o his_o relation_n of_o my_o word_n pag._n 29._o numb_a 5._o and_o see_v whether_o you_o can_v understand_v he_o about_o mâ—ssâ—â—aliena_n my_o word_n be_v plain_a enough_o for_o thus_o i_o write_v page_n 12._o numb_a 20._o by_o he_o cite_v for_o first_o about_o put_v the_o pope_n hook_n in_o another_o man_n harvest_n apostolic_a suppose_v as_o we_o do_v that_o we_o â—â—â—aâ—e_v of_o catholic_a 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tuâ—reâ—remata_fw-la lib._n 2._o summae_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la cap._n 32._o with_o his_o reason_n â—or_a the_o same_o 2d_o and_o consequent_o do_v not_o â—et_v it_o down_o as_o a_o supposal_n certain_a ground_n or_o principle_n but_o as_o a_o probable_a and_o disputable_a opinion_n though_o himself_o hold_v the_o opinion_n of_o turrecremata_fw-la to_o be_v more_o probable_a but_o on_o the_o other_o side_n franciscus_n de_fw-fr victoria_n here_o cite_v by_o m._n barlow_n himselve_v 3._o though_o he_o be_v of_o a_o contrary_a opinion_n to_o turrecremata_fw-la and_o to_o bellarmine_n about_o the_o ordination_n of_o all_o the_o apostle_n by_o s._n peter_n yet_o do_v he_o in_o the_o very_a same_o place_n profess_v that_o s._n peter_n be_v universal_a bishop_n over_o all_o the_o church_n of_o god_n primus_fw-la &_o princeps_fw-la cum_fw-la summa_fw-la supertotam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la potâ—state_fw-la that_o among_o the_o apostle_n he_o be_v the_o first_o and_o principal_a with_o 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letter_n pag._n 64._o see_v s._n cypr._n exhor_n ad_fw-la martyr_n see_v eusebâ—_n l._n 8._o c._n 4._o &_o aug._n de_fw-fr bapt._n l._n 7._o c._n 2._o &_o l._n 7._o contra_fw-la crescon_n c._n 27._o &_o aâ—nob_n contra_fw-la gentes_fw-la l._n 4._o in_o fine_a m._n barlow_v slander_n without_o end_n barl._n pag._n 187._o m_o barlowes_n strange_a mystery_n socrat._n lib._n â—_o hist._n cap._n 14._o socrates_n pervert_v d._n tho._n 2._o 2._o q._n 104._o articâ—_fw-la 6._o ad_fw-la 3._o lie_v &_o cog_a be_v proper_a to_o m._n barlow_n s._n thomas_n his_o opinion_n concern_v obedience_n due_a unto_o prince_n aug._n 4._o de_fw-fr civit._n c._n 4._o a_o objection_n answer_v by_o s._n thom._n m._n barlowes_n ignorance_n or_o malice_n more_o declare_v strange_a deal_n of_o our_o adversary_n letter_n pag._n 65._o about_o the_o breve_n of_o clemens_n octaws_fw-la m._n barlowes_n mind_n impious_a m._n barlow_v cobble_v and_o clout_v on_o of_o his_o majesty_n praise_n m._n barlow_n more_o fit_a to_o be_v a_o sexton_n then_o b._n of_o lincoln_n lett._n p._n 69._o apologia_fw-la 56.37_o the_o state_n of_o the_o controversy_n with_o cardinal_n belâ—larmine_n card_n beauties_n opinion_n of_o take_v the_o oath_n pag._n 44._o a_o cavil_v barl._n p_o 201._o josue_n 6._o 15._o ram_n horn_n barl._n pag._n 202._o a_o great_a untruth_n to_o begin_v wiâ—h_n all_o a_o foolish_a fiction_n of_o m._n barlow_n without_o application_n m._n barlow_v trifle_a ignorance_n barl._n pag._n 203._o m._n barlow_n answer_v argument_n by_o tell_v of_o tale_n &_o those_o little_a to_o the_o purpose_n card._n bellarmine_n wrongful_o charge_v by_o m._n barlow_n for_o mistake_v the_o question_n pag._n 164._o edit_n rom._n lett._n p._n 71._o all_o be_v one_o with_o m._n barlow_n for_o a_o thing_n to_o be_v moderate_v or_o to_o be_v modify_v barl._n pag._n 205._o stat._n 26._o henr._n 8._o cap._n 1._o the_o first_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n stat._n 28._o henr._n 8._o cap._n 10._o stat._n 1._o edw._n 6._o cap._n 2._o barl._n pag._n 205._o m_o barlow_n vex_v in_o defend_v the_o supremacy_n pag._n 209._o 1._o reg._n 15._o 1._o cor._n 11._o m_o barlowes_n impertinent_a answer_n reyn._n confer_v cap._n 1._o disp_n 2._o p._n 55._o q._n elizabeth_n in_o m._n barlowes_n opinion_n as_o absolute_a for_o spiriâ—tuâ—ll_v authority_n as_o any_o male-monarch_n barl._n pag._n 207._o letter_n 74._o the_o oath_n divide_v into_o 14._o part_n apol._n p._n 49._o bad_a kind_n of_o argue_v barl._n pag._n 2â—â—_n m._n barlow_n without_o all_o occasion_n play_v the_o parasite_n barlow_n pag._n 214._o m._n barlowes_n senseless_a demand_n m._n barlow_n foy_v into_o his_o text_n the_o word_n whole_a and_o thereupon_o ground_v all_o his_o idle_a dispute_n bellarm._n pag._n 22._o edit_n rom._n more_o require_v to_o a_o good_a action_n then_o to_o a_o evil_a barl._n pag._n â—15_n the_o difference_n between_o this_o oath_n and_o a_o indenture_n barl._n pag._n 215._o barl._n p._n 215._o strange_a &_o parasitical_a paradox_n lett._n p._n 76._o apologia_fw-la 52._o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n confirm_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n the_o difference_n between_o the_o ancient_a counsel_n and_o the_o pope_n counsel_v of_o the_o catholic_n conâ—_n tole_n 4._o can_n 74._o a_o lie_n in_o print_n barl._n pag._n 217._o about_o the_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n almost_o k._n â—â—senandus_fw-la his_o submissive_a behaviour_n to_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n the_o catholic_n faith_n confirm_v by_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n m._n barlâ—w_n when_o he_o can_v answer_v filâ—_n to_o tell_v of_o tale_n m._n barlow_v falsehood_n in_o relate_v the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n m._n barlowes_n shameless_a assertion_n about_o ignorance_n &_o devotion_n m._n barlow_n very_o ignorant_a but_o not_o very_o devout_a immunity_n of_o clergy_n man_n from_o whence_o it_o first_o proceed_v lib._n de_fw-fr cler._n cap._n 2d_o &_o 29._o vidâ—_n in_o câ—dâ—e_a theodâ—s_n lib._n 16._o tiâ—_n 2_o leg_n 16_o &_o 26._o â—t_z in_o cod._n â—â—stinâ—_n lâ—ge_a â—anâ—imus_fw-la de_fw-la saâ—rosan_n eccl._n m_o barlow_n for_o a_o canon_n leap_v out_o of_o the_o book_n can._n 75._o two_o notorious_a fraud_n of_o m._n barâ—low_n m._n barlowes_n forgery_n discover_v about_o the_o marriage_n of_o priest_n conâ—_n to._n lâ—t_n â—_o tom_fw-mi 2._o conc._n a_o dom._n 542._o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n of_o tolâ—dâ—_n about_o the_o chastity_n of_o subdeacons_n deacon_n &_o priest_n let_v sâ—r_n william_n b._n and_o his_o fellow_n examine_v their_o conscience_n how_o they_o keep_v this_o canon_n priest_n live_v with_o their_o wife_n note_v by_o the_o council_n to_o come_v from_o heretic_n whether_o the_o 4_o council_n of_o toledo_n agree_v more_o with_o the_o protestant_a church_n of_o england_n or_o catholic_a church_n of_o rome_n christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n to_o deliver_v the_o saint_n merit_n of_o work_n recourse_n to_o rome_n beda_n lib._n 1._o hist._n c._n 27._o wax_v taper_n allâ—lâ—ya_n mortification_n in_o the_o time_n of_o lentâ—_n mass_n &_o festivity_n of_o saint_n disorderly_o monk_n punish_v the_o difference_n between_o the_o oath_n of_o the_o council_n of_o toledo_n &_o the_o english_a oath_n of_o pretend_a allegiance_n barl._n pag._n 220._o very_o wisly_a speak_v council_n â—_o tolet._n a_o fond_a triumph_n of_o m._n barlow_n before_o the_o victory_n the_o council_n of_o toledo_n will_v never_o have_v allow_v of_o the_o new_a oath_n about_o equivocation_n very_o ignorant_o by_o m._n barlow_n confound_v with_o lie_v lie_v a_o immodest_a example_n use_v by_o m._n barlow_n the_o difference_n between_o equivocation_n &_o lie_v a_o gross_a lie_n of_o m._n barlow_n barl._n pag._n 226._o m._n barlowes_n principal_a ignorance_n m._n barlowes_n childish_a imputation_n against_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n barl._n pag._n 230._o let_n pag._n 43_o num_fw-la 24._o two_o question_n propose_v &_o solue_v clause_n of_o belief_n or_o not_o belief_n in_o the_o 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mort_fw-fr agenda_fw-la cypr._n ep._n