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A80541 A copie of tvvo vvritings sent to the Parliament. The one intituled motions for reforming of the Church of England in this present Parliament: most taken out of Irenaus Philadelphus. The other a humble petition unto the Parliament, for reforming of the Church of England: all taken out of the holy Scriptures. Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680. Motions for reforming the Church of England in this present Parliament. 1641 (1641) Wing C6235; Thomason E238_12; ESTC R2679 18,517 27

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un●full 〈◊〉 me● in 〈◊〉 which still causeth suites between the parishers and ministers the patron and incumbent keepes the minister from his Church while he followes sute to London And bring the holy ministers into obloquie and contempe but an honorable Competent proportion be appointed for the maintaining of each parish Minister by the parishioners rated by the Parliament or Synod And that the distinction of Deanes Archdeacons Parsons Curates Vicars and Readers be taken away but let them be co●q●●ls and more or lesse in number in one parish according to the greatnes or wealth of the parrish 10. That as Bishops in height of Iurisdiction and place by act are to be shortned so an act be made from henceforth that all ordinary ministers which are too much villified d Quae. 11 Whither many of the ordinary Ministers are not so vile as that there is no honour nor respect due to them shall have more respect and honour then heretofore given to them and that the ministers sons be preferred to the fellowship of Colleges 11 That the power e Qu. 12. Whither it ●e not meet ●hat they should first shew by whose authority the keys belong unto th●m before the Parliamēt do grant such a thing of the ecclesiasticall keyes such as belongs to the Bishops and ministers be restored to them according to the ancient constitutions of the primitiue Churches that there be no Censure past upon the Cleargy or people from Synods Bishops or p●esbiteryes but such as is spiritual ●hat vsual penalty of imprisonment fines be rendred again to be righ● owner viz to the C●vill M gist●ate and the abuse of excommunications and the Oath Ex-Officio abolished f Qu. 13. W●●her other abuses as vile a● these should not be abolished also g Qu. 14 Whither it be not better that the Parliamēt should present to the King all the Bishopricks in the land he take them into his owne hands 12 That the Cleargie of the Diocesse shall choose their own bishops or present to the Kings Majesty two who may choose of them whom he pleaseth and that every parish be patron of us parish haue the presentations of as many ministers as the floocke requireth to the Synod or Bishop 13. That insteed of chancellours Officials Apparators Registors and such like grashoppers there be some h Qu. 15. Whither it be not fit that these Motioners do prove the thing to be lawful before the Parliament doe grant it lay Elders that may sit in provintial Synods and have their voyce in matter of Discipline Church government and that in a nationall Synod there be some Lay-men likewise appointed by the Parliament 14. That a better course be taken for the providing for the poor that both ministers i Qu. 16. Whither their motion be not gainst the Word of God Act. 6.2.4 the chiefe of the Parish shall oversee how Church-wardens do dispose of the Churches Treasury that they be not permitted under crime of Sacriledg to spend it upon themselues that every moneth they give account of whatsoever is received and layd out Quae. 17. Whither it ●e imagi●able that ●y Mini●ters if ●alled of God as ●as Aa●on would propound ●o raine a ●hing to a Parliamēt 15. That the griping of Church duties and buriall Costs exacted oftner more rigerously of the poore then the rich be restrained and that the ministers be contented with his yearly sallary performing al the branches of his Calling as Baptisme Burying visiting the sick without any further recompense but such as is tendered to him Quae. 18. Who must ●resent the Parish Minister ●f he be a delinquent 〈◊〉 most are 16. That hereafter none be cited by the Synod Presbitery or spirituall Court without the knowledge of the parish minister who ought to present the delinquent haue his voyce in the Censure Quae. 19. Whither it bee meet that such men as complaine against the rigour of Bb. should be suffered to impose what they please upon others 17. That it be not more in the power of Bishops to impose what they please upon the Cleargie with such Rigurous penalties as they haue lately used for the oath of the sixt Cannon 18. That the fountaines of learning Cambridg and Oxford be purged from superstitious rites and Popish Doctrines and Orthodox Readers be provided A humble Petition vnto the PARLIAMENT for the Reforming of the Church of England all taken out of the holy Scriptures PETITIONERS 1. HOwsoever it cannot be denied but some things in King Edwards days were wel reformed Nevertheles many grosse corruptions were still retayned both in the Church-lyturgy discipline ministery and the very constitution of the Church it selfe The which errors and evils haue been by sun dry learned (a) Cartwright Brightman Parker Vdal Baines Bates Gilbie Fenner Ames Bastwick Laiton others and Godly men so plainly discovered as that every sincere professour of the gospell is now fully informed of the necessity of a chang And are humble PETITIONERS that whatsoever shall appeare to be antichristian and unlawfull may by thus present Parliament be suppressed and the ordinances of the Gospell set up to the honour of Iesus Christ the perpetuall peace both of Church and common wealth 2. whereas Iesus Christ Lord and King of his Church hath set down vnto us in the new testament a setled platform of Church governm (b) M● 18 15 16 Eph. 11 12 Hebr. 3 2 3 4 1 Tim. ● 15 Esa 9 Act. ● 40. which is unchangable best perpetuall and common to all Churches c Mat. 2● 18 20 1 Tim. 1● 16 A● 1 3 G● 1 8 9 Iud. 3 Rev. 14 9 12 2● 18 19. and to which all churches and people must be subject and not to any other devised by man whatsoever And in this respect suteable howsoever some otherwise vntruly insinuate to the Monarchy of great Brittain and to all kinds of Civill estates in the world It is therefore againe desired that the same be ratified and enacted by this present Parliament But if it be thought fit by both houses that there shal be a committee or convocation and meeting of some divines to treat of the thing Then our request is that some zealous and godly ministers who have beē forced to fly out of the Realm by reason of the Prelates persecution may be called home Such as are known to be impartiall learned and vncorrupt in life and doctrine Men that haue not maintayned the open profanation of the Lords day neither are ignorant or unsound in the point of Church government as are our poopishly ceremonious divines 3. We hould that there is not onlye need but that it is of absolute necessity that the English Liturgy be taken away becaus the same is a devised service d Ex 20 4 5 Ioh. ● 24 Rom● 8 26 27● Iud. 24 Mal. 1 14. Col. 2.8 27 Gal. 3 18. Romish stuffe
his majestie and the PARLIAMENT to have the difference on both sides tried and examined as either that our Propositions and reasons may be given to our opposites to answer and their arguments if they will set down any to us to answer by the word of God Or that a conference may be had in writing the questions being first agreed vpon and the arguments and answers advisedly set downe till both parties have fully sayd laying aside all by-matters and so the whole exhibited to the PARLIAMEMT to judg off Or any other course which by you shall be thought meetest for the finding out of the truth by the sacred Scriptures And if this may not be granted us then our last request is for our returne out of exile and releasement out of bands and that we may be suffered in peace under his majestiss government within his dominions which we had rather then under any other whatsoever to walke in the fayth of the Gospell according to the testimony of Christ we carying our selves in all loyaltie peace godlines as becometh the faithfull subjects of the Lord. And this we hope will not be denyed seeing strangers are suffered which differ as well as we from the Hierarchy worship there established we being his majesties naturall subjects But howsoever it be wee wil not cease to pray for you And that the Lord wil be favourable to the land and take away his wrath from it Motions for Reforming of the Church of England in this present PARLIAMENT most taken out of Irenaeus a Quae. 1 ●●ether ●renaeus be a fitt man to be followed in the point of discipline seeing none of the Fathers in his time ●rote 〈◊〉 more corruptly in the thing then hee Philadelphus MOTIONERS 1. THat since the first reformation in King Edwards dayes was rather of the doctrine the of the discipline and of the rites that were palpable grosse which yet were retayned with a purpose they should be removed afterwards and for to unloose by degrees the fast hold to the Romish Church now since every Protestant is well informed of the change made in religion that whatsoever in the religion or tending to the disturbing of the peace of the Church and the maintayning of hereticall doctrines be redressed 2. That in that great worke of Reformation which is of moment and consequence farre beyond the setling of civill affaires there bee appointed by both the Houses a Committee or Convocation or meeting of 40 or 50 English Divines Men that were not of the late Convocation and such as be unpartiall learned and uncorrupt in their lives and Doctrines such as Dr. Vsher Arch. B. of Armach Dr. Williams a Quae. 2 Archb. Bb. and men conformable to the Popish Ceremonies be fit to have speciall hand in framing a setled platforme of Church government B. of Lincolne Dr. Precheaux Dr. Twisse and the like With 10 Scots Divines to which be called 8 Forraine Divines of the most learned and famous Such as Rivetus Primrose Moulin and the like who may treat and agree upon a setled plat-forme of Church Government sutable to the Monarchy of Great Brittaine which ought to be ratified and enacted by Parliament 3. That the Churches Discipline being established a Nationall Synod be convocate that may frame a Confession of Faith and reforme if need be b Quae. 3 whether such as doubt whether it be needfull to have the English Letturgie reformed be not corrupt men unfit to motion for reformatiō the English Leiturgie that without exception it bee received through out the K. Dominions to which Synod may be called a competent number of Forraine Divines However since so many have beene so earnest of late to bee in Charity with the Romane Church that they have beene uncharitable to the Reformed Churches Let Cannons be made in the Synod and an act of Parliament for Vnion with other Protestant Churches in matter of Doctrine And all the fire-brands of these late innovations in the Church that have made us a laughing stocke to the neighbour-Churches be sharply censured if not cutt of as banes of the Church Especially the first raysers of Altars Such as Heylen Pocklington and the like a) Qu 4 ●hether 〈◊〉 B● ●ting ●em 〈◊〉 ●rke de●●t ●ot m●●●eater ●ith●ent 4. That the pleasures of our late Soveraigne King Iames of blessed memorie be executed who sent his Divines to the Synod of Dort That the Church of England afterwards should be bound by the decisions made there and that Cannons be made conformable to the determinations of the Divines in that Sinod 5. If Bishops be retayned (a) Quae. 5 whether men wishing the Bb. to be retained are not herein enemies to the State and seeke to hinder reformation as it is to be wished ther be no more distance between a Bishopp and an ordinary minister that Bishops be no more called Lords that they be enjoyned to preach dilligently as the duty of their place and office is 6. That if some sit in Parliament It must be upon woll Sackes and have no more priveledge by their office and places then the Iudges the Lord Keepers Treasurers that a certayn number of deputies from the national Sinod b Quae. 6 vvhether ministers more then other private men ought to have either place or voyce in Parliament whether Bishops or others be assisting both in the higher and the lower house for delivering their advises vpon any clawes of acts that may entrench upon the Churches priuiledges or are contrary to doctrine or good manners 7 That the principall defect of our dicipline and the spring of all errors in doctrin and practise which is the want of Synods be amended and herafter all vissitations of Bishops be Synods as by right they ought to bee and according to the Antient constitutions as it appeareth by the c Quae. 7. Whether Ministers in the Apostles time used to pay any such thing Synodals which ministers pay at euery visitation and that at Synods al Parish ministers be sitting and covered and haue their voyce and the discussing of all the affaires of the diosesse and making orders which may not afterwards be altered by the Bishops but only by the nationall Metropoliticall Synods which for the the publick vnion is to be kept once every two yeares neither was the Church of la●● without Synods but in ENGLAND a Quae. 8. Whither Synods as 〈◊〉 are ●w have ●n any ●here but ●l●e that 〈◊〉 since the ●postles 〈◊〉 8. That Bishops be Censurable by the Synod whether it be provintiall or nationall b Quae. 9 ●f the mē●s of a ●tionall provin●l Synod corrupt 〈◊〉 and ●ke Ca●● a●inst the ●ith who 〈◊〉 cen●re them ●r it 9. That an other course be taken for maintaining ministers and Bish then that by tythes c Qu. 10. Whether it ●●more ●cessary ●at there ●t some ●rse ta● to have ●full ●d mini●rs then 〈◊〉 the ●tenāce ●he