Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
england_n	bishop_n	church_n	year_n	4,537	5	4.8354	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A87009	An ansvver to the animadversions on the dissertations touching Ignatius's epistles, and the episcopacie in them asserted. By H. Hammond, D.D.	Hammond, Henry, 1605-1660.; Owen, John, 1616-1683.	1654 (1654)	Wing H514; Thomason E814_13; ESTC R202518	185,935	227

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