Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
england_n	bishop_n	church_n	succession_n	2,569	5	10.4652	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A59119	A plain answer to a popish priest questioning the orders of the Church of England drawn up for the satisfaction of his parishioners, by a minister of that Church.	Seller, Abednego, 1646?-1705.	1688 (1688)	Wing S2458; ESTC R14595	3,325	9

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