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A42823 A præfatory answer to Mr. Henry Stubbe, the doctor of Warwick wherein the malignity, hypocrisie, falshood of his temper, pretences, reports, and the impertinency of his arguings & quotations in his animadversions on Plus ultra are discovered / by Jos. Glanvill. Glanvill, Joseph, 1636-1680. 1671 (1671) Wing G821; ESTC R23393 87,889 234

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his Spirit and Genius out of his own publish'd Writings I come next to II. HIS Designs of these I shall briefly give his own Account out of his latest Books They were if we may believe him the securing and promoting the Interest of the present Monarchy Pref. against Plus Vltra p. 4. Protestant Religion ibid. and the Church of England Title Pref. c. against Dr. Sprat School-Divinity p. 1. against Plus Vltra Universities p. 1.2.13 In order to the carrying on these great Intendments He design'd further to make the Virtuosi really ridiculous and odious to the Kingdom Pref. p. 4. to avenge his Faculty upon M. Glanvill and by Sacrificing that Virtuoso to publick Obloquy to establish general Repose and Tranquillity Pref. p. 3. Smile not ô Tres-haute tres-agreeable Comediants Pref. 6. M. Marchamont Stubb is the PILLAR of MONARCHY and the PATRIOT of PROTESTANT Religion But you must not ask how long he hath been of this Loyal and Religious Inclination He hath no longer a Concern for Sir H. Vane Disc. of Choc You may choose whether you 'l admire Him now and yet be no Enemy to all that is good and virtuous nor is he concerned for the other Patriots of the long Parliament and Army that were to be so famous when the Worthies of Greece and old Rome should cease to be mention'd ut supra Tower-Hill and Tybourn have alter'd the Case The Good old Cause ceaseth to be the most glorious in the World and Monarchy to be the Norman Yoke more intolerable than the Aegyptian Bondage Our Kings are not now a Succession of Usurpers nor is Their Government the most dismal Part of Egypt We hear no more of Charles Stuart and his Bishops compared to the Inquisition nor of executing Iustice upon the late KING No the Interest of the present Monarchy and the Church of England are now the Cause the glorious Cause and next to the Good old one no doubt the most glorious that ever was M. Politicus is better informed his Eyes are opened and now Monarchy may be as good a Government as M. Harrington's Model that was so like the Pattern in the Mount and General MONK may be as good a Patriot as Sir H. Vane and the Rumpers Thus we hear Sir Hudibras is turn'd zealous Royalist and our Sir Marchamont will pay the Comical Wits for the Prejudice They do the present Monarchy and the Church of England HOW like it is 1. that the Interest of Monarchy should be one ground of M. Stubb's Quarrel with the Virtuosi we have seen already or if it do not yet fully appear from what hath been recited before give me leave to propose to your further Consideration a Paragraph of his in the Beginning of his Vindication of Sir H. V. p. 1.2 The Age saith he wherein we live hath been all Miracles and the coming forth of the Woman out of the Wilderness hath been attended with so many Wonders that a pious Heart can never want imployment in its Contemplation We have seen and our Eyes bear witness of the Actings of our God the overturning of a Monarchy setled upon the Foundation and Vsage of many hundreds of Years strengthened by what Humane Policy could contribute to its Establishments and what of Buttress a complying Clergy could assist it with out of the Pulpit Yet have we seen a Change so brought about by our Iehovah that he may in extraordinary Acknowledgments be proclaimed wonderful Counsellour the mighty God the everlasting Father Prince of Peace We have seen the most glorious Cause in the World accompanied with no less Success and the Lord in his Mercy to us and Iustice to them hath bound our Kings in Chains and Nobles in Fetters of Iron such as wherewith they had formerly opprest the good People of this Land This Honour have all his Saints Psal. 149.9 Vengeance hath he returned upon their heads and their own Shame hath covered them The true anointed ones of the Lord have appeared for their sakes hath he rebuked Monarchs and the former have repeated the Fruits of that Holiness and Sacriety whereunto the latter vainly pretended In this Strain he goes on in imitation of the reformed Style of those Times which is not Canting but the holy Language of the anointed ones for whose sake our King was bound in Chains and our Nobles in Fetters of Iron And are we not to believe that this Anointed Rumper is a Zealot for the Interest of the present Monarchy We have his word for 't and he hath told me that he can say more for Monarchy than all the Virtuosi No doubt It would be very much if M. Stubb could not say more for any thing than the Ignoramus's He knows the man that useth to brag what he can say for MAHOMET and what an Inclination he hath to write the Life of that Brave Fellow And if Turcism were among us I know where the Alcoran would have a Defender and one that can say as much for it as for Monarchy or the Church of England if he may be credited himself but of that no more now We have seen some things whereby we may judge how dear the Interest of Monarchy is to our Anti-Virtuoso and how much Reason we have to believe that to be one ground of his Quarrel with the Royal Society LET us inquire next 2. how probable it is that he should be kindled against them by the Consideration of the Church of England and Religion There was a time you know when the Church of England was in a worse Condi●ion than it is in now and Religion in a more ruinous Posture Independents Anabaptists Fifth Monarchy-men and Quakers were as formidable People to both as the Virtuosi and all things were fallen under their destructive Power What did this pious Vindicatour of the Church of England and Religion in that unhappy season No doubt his Zeal burnt like fire and he was sensible then as he is now Pref. p. 4. that he ought not to be silent Then it was that his Light broke out of Darkness that disclosed Truths little less admirable than those Sir H. Vane discover'd that were the most glorious that have been witness'd to these 1500 Years and more ut sup They are proposed modestly in Queries for he tells us They are from one who desires to lie low in his own eyes But the Testimonies and Proof are all for the Heterodox Part for which he declares he had the most esteem ● and that he had a tender Regard to those who made the Subject of those Queries their Assertions These passages make part of the Preface to the first but are in the Conclusion of the second Edition which I now use We shall see in these Queries how he shewed his Friendship to Religion and the Church of England in the Time of their greatest Extremity The first Query is this Q. 1. Whether there be any certain or peculiar Name in the New Testament that signifies a Minister or
in the case of M. Baxter These returns I may expect from one that hath so many good Qualities of his Celebrated Times In this way he can write on for ever for such proceedings are most suitable to his parts and virtues By them he will make himself the admiration of Envious Fools but the scorn of the wise and intelligent which latter he hath sufficiently done already And therefore I shall leave him to the Appl●●d● of hi● Friends and the Contempts of the Friends of vertue and wisdom after I have justified my self in a thing which is like to be objected by this Antagonist I am told he will Answer all that I have produced out of his writings to shew the Hypocrisie of his pretenses for Monarchy and the Church of England by recharging me with compliance with those Times An Answer befitting such a Writer and let him make the most of that charge My great fault was that I was born in that unhappy season and bred in those dismal days● But can he accuse me of any thing I ever said or did that was Disloyal Did I write a Defence of the Cause of Regicides and Vsurpers ● or Defame Kingly Government or blaspheme my persecuted Soveraign or promote Anarchy and publick ruine If M. Stubbe cannot prove any of th●se as I da●e him to offer at it He cannot recriminate And his charges of this kind will b● contemptible ● and like all the rest He had best write against me for coming into the world in an ill Time and for being born a Child ● I have not the least offence besides to answer for● in reference to the Government ● except what I apologized for before the recital I have made of his former Tr●asons and Impieties I have now done for the present with M. Stubbe But must add this to some silly sneaks who think he hath written things not to be answer'd ● That Impudence and non-sense are the most troublesom things to answer in the world I have prov'd already● and shall yet more fully shew that the Argumentative part of his Book against me is so far from being unanswerable that it cannot deserve any other Answer then a smile and silence For most of that he saith is lamentably inconsistent and impertinent He tells us He sends the things to the Press that were suggested as he travell'd and one may judge by their incoherence that he rid upon a trotting Horse upon which I leave him pursuing the Virtuosi and add this Advertisement If any man hath a design to write his Life and further to describe this Sir Hudibr●s and his Steed He will do well to hold his hand a while For M. Stubbe's Friend M. Cross hath writ a Book call'd Biographia which gives Rules how Lives are to be writ This will be printed if the Licensers will permit the good man to spoil so much paper and so make himself publickly ridiculous And the H●storian had no● best begin till he hath M. C. directions for fear he transgress the Rules and incur the lash of the Methodical Pedant This Book it seems is intended to correct the Learned and pious Dr. ●ell for his way of writing the Life of Dr. Hammond and 't is M. C. revenge upon that excellent person for his denying Licence to the scurrilous and non-sensical Book he writ against me I have not heard many particulars of it but only this He calls that Reverend Divine who hath been long Doctor of Divinity presides over the chief Colledge of Oxford is Dean of that Diocess and hath govern'd the Vniversity as Vice-Chancellor with singular wisdom diligence and applause I say he calls that venerable man Iubenis and I believe that name of diminution doth not go alone but the Reverend person from whom I had this lighted on that by chance as he cast his eye upon the Disputer's Papers which he carrie●h about for a shew 'T would be well for an old man I know if he had this excuse of being young for his weakness and puerilities for which there can be no Apology made except he confes● himself arriv'd to his second childhood And so I take leave of him out of pity and for ought I know for ever FINIS ADVERTISEMENT Concerning the ERRATA and some passages liable to be mistaken THat M. Stubbe may not trouble himself to write more Animadversions on the Errata of the Press I give notice That when I speak of his Reporting the Design of the Roy●l Society to be laid by a Iesuite p. 2. or 3. It should be by a Fryar The mistake was the persons that told i● me who said a Iesuite thinking it seems That Campanella was of that order In Dr. More 's Letter 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is se● instead of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I know not whether the mistake be the Printers or Transcribers 'T was not mine I never writ out that Letter There are several other small errors I took notice of in running over my Printed Papers as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Pigmy which should have had no Comma between and the like But I have not my Book now at hand to note them particularly and therefore must lye at M. Stubbe's mercy But these following things were noted while my Papers were by me to prevent mistake P. 174. When I say It must be granted that two pair viz. of Spectacles ordinarily hind●r 〈◊〉 sight I would not be understood 〈◊〉 they do so when used by those of Great●● Age. For two pair to them have but the power of one P. 178. When I say Telescopes represent ●●jects as they ar● only in larger proporti●ns I mean as they are for figure and only represent them larger then they appear to the 〈◊〉 eye P. 179. When I grant what M. Stubbe saith that in the longest Tubes the Colours of Objects are more remiss whatever he mean● I would not be understood as if the length of the Tubes made the remissness o● the Light for that is caused by the number of the Glasses or ●he darkness of their metal Books Printed for and sold by James Collins at the Kings-Arms i● Ludgate-street neer the West end of St. Paul's and at the Kings-head in Westminster-Hall A Discourse of the Religious Temper and T●ndencies of the modern experimental Philosophy which is profest by the Royal Society To which is annext a Recommendation and Defence of Reason in the affairs of Religion By Ios. Glanvill In octavo Observations upon Military and Political Affairs ● Written by the most Honourable George D●ke of Albemarle c. Published by Authority In folio A Private Conference between a Rich Alderman and a Poor Country Vicar made Publick Whe●ein is discoursed the Obligation of Oaths which have been imposed on the Subjects of England With other Matters relating to ●he present State of Affairs In octavo Praxis Medicinae or the Universal Body of Physick Containing all Inward D●seases incident to the Body of Man Explaining the Nature of every Dis●ase with Proper Remedies assigned to them Very useful for Physicians Chi●urgeons and Apothecaries and more ●specially for such who consult their own Health Written by that famous and learned Physician Walter Bruell In quarto The Christians Victory over Death A Sermon at the Funeral of the most Honourable George Duke of Albemarle c. in the Collegiate Church of St. Peter's Westminster on the 30. of April 1670. By Seth Lord Bishop of Sarum Preached and Published by his Majesties special Command In quarto The Episcopacy of the Church of England justified to be Apostolical from the Authority of the Antient Primitive Church And from the Confessions of the most famous Divines of the Reformed Churches beyond the Seas Being a full Satisf●ction in this Cause as well for the Necessity as for the Iust Right thereof as consonant to the Word of God By the Right Reverend Father in God Thomas Morton late Lord Bishop of D●resme Before which is prefixed a Preface to the Reader concerning this Subject by Sir Henry Yelverton Baronet In octavo
any Name whence an Office may be convincingly inferr'd If there be not as there is just Cause to doubt whether the present Ministers are not to blame while they pretend to an Office and Function grounded upon Divine Right which hath no other Foundation than the Hay and Stubble of Humane Invention p. 12. In the second Query thus they are too large for me to transcribe all Q. 2. Is it not an Act of Arrogance in them who would be the Apostles Successors in ordinary ordinary Ambassadors from the most High to assume a Name of greater Latitude than that of Apostle or Ambassador extraordinary or at least is it not as absurd as if the Ant should assume the single Name of Animal and the Lacquey that of Servant p. 3 4. Query 5. Thus. Q. 5. Whether the present Ministry supposing them generally Presbyterians or Episcoparians do not pretend to be Ministers of the Church Catholick whether there be any mention of such a Church in Scripture or in any antient Creed of the first Ages and whether Luther did not place in stead thereof in his Creed the Christian Church whether any body can tell what is the determinate meaning of that Word whether the Ordainers and Ordained now-adays deal conscientiously in giving or receiving and acting really by Virtue of a Power from and over the Catholick Church whilst the Existence and Signification thereof is so controverted amongst themselves and others p. 19. Q. 6. Whether Ecclesia which is a Word signifying a Church be not a Law-Term deduced from Free-States in which Common-wealths the supreme Popular Assembly acted organized by the Archon and Proedri as a Church formed and presbyterated by a Minister and Elders which did not rule but preside p. 27. Q. 7. Whether such a Sense of the Word Ecclesia or Church doth not unchurch all the Parochial Churches in England and unminister all their Ministers ibid. Q. 8. Whether the Ministers do well to derive their Succession unto Christ by the means of Antichrist p. 29. Q. 9. Whether the Arguments of the first● Reformers about their Vocation do not justifie any that shall take upon them to preach p. 52. Q. 20. Whether the first Christians had any Churches or did not assemble only in Private Houses whether their Want hereof can be attributed to their being under Persecution since they never made that Excuse for themselves to the Pagans who objected it to them p. 106 107. Q. 21. Whether Christianity it self be not termed Heresie in Scripture Whether Tertullian do not frequently call the Christians a Sect and whether the Christian Emperours do not so likewise in their Constitutions even against Hereticks whether the Meeting-Places of the first Christians were not termed Conventicles p. 107. Q. 22. Whether if there were Heresies in the Apostles days and Schisms it doth follow that there are any Hereticks and Schismaticks now when there are n● Apostles p. 108. Q. 23. Whether they used in the Primitive times to bury in Places such as we now call Church-Yards and whether the introducing of such a Custom had not a superstitious Original p. 110. Q. 24. Whether if to preach publickly be to teach as it is now practis'd the Apostles did ever teach publickly p. 112. Q. 25. Whether the Division into Parishes was not introduced by the Pope Dionysius and whether the Antient Christians payed Tithes if they did whether they did not pay them as Alms ibid. Q. 29. Whether the Predecessors of the Protestants and those who have so honourable a mention in our Books of Martyrs and other Writings for witnessing against Popish and other Antichristian Abuses did allow of Tithes and their Divine Right p. 120. Q. 30. Whether they had the Vse of Bells in the Primitive Times and whether the Bells in England that remain ever since the Reformation have not been popishly and superstitiously Christned p. 138. Q. 31. Whether it were not an Act of Superstition in former times to build Churches and Chappels in the Form or Fashion of a Cross whether it were not a Sin of the like Nature in Antient Times to build their Churches East and West that so the People might bow and pray towards the East And whether both these Superstitions have not been renewed and practised lately in one of the Reformed Colleges of Oxford viz. Brasen-Nose College as in the Margin p. 139. Q. 42. Whether the Ministers do well to go in black or the Vniversities to command it p. 147. Q. 43. Whether there were not of old amongst the Iews a sort of men called Cheramims or black Coats whether those were the People of God and whether the Translatours of the Bible did well to conceal the true meaning of this Word by putting another for it or the very Word it self in English Letters p. 148. Q. 47. Whether those things which had a good Original and Vse if they be not still necessary or commanded by God when once they have been abused to Idolatry and Superstition are not quite to be abolished p. 149. Q. 48. Whether the Singing of David ' s Psalms be a part of Divine Worship whether that Practice was introduced in England for a spiritual End or only to preserve the Estimation and Knowledge of the laudable Science of Musick p. 151. elsewhere called Fidling Q. 41. Q. 50. Whether it be not a very great Abuse put upon the Independents to say that they or their Tenents came from Amsterdam Do not the Doctors that are got among them their Stickling for the upholding the present formalized University and a Tithe-receiving Ministry whom yet not long ago they stiled abominable and Parish Priests and their Demeanour toward the Quakers in Oxon agreeable to a persecuting rather than a persecuted Spirit sufficiently acquit them from having any Affinity with those other Pretious Souls p. 156. Q. 53. Whether it be a peculiar Practice of our modern Anabaptists and Quakers that they will not swear no not before a Magistrate or whether it were not an Opinion of the Waldenses Antecessors of the Protestants p. 166. What sort of Persons these Queries were intended to gratifie 't is very easie to apprehend But lest those Friends he had a mind to make should be so dull as not to perceive it He writes an express Apology for the Quakers beginning at p. 55. continued to p. 92. In which he tells us that he durst not condemn the Quakers whether they reprove openly or walk naked through the Streets denouncing Woes and Menaces p. 91. and he goes on It is a sufficient Argument for me that what God bids is not undecent nor do they any thing for which they have not a like Example and possibly resembling Commands Did not the Protestant Martyrs so disturb the Popish Priests as the present Ministers are disturbed and that when the Laws were against them Yea many of the first Christians dealt so with the Heathens and their Priests ib. And again p. 92. If Balzac or Rutgersius had written his Character