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A18100 The ansvvere of Master Isaac Casaubon to the epistle of the most reuerend Cardinall Peron. Translated out of Latin into English. May 18. 1612; Ad epistolam illustr. et reverendiss. Cardinalis Perronii, responsio. English Casaubon, Isaac, 1559-1614. 1612 (1612) STC 4741; ESTC S107683 37,090 54

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precise_o exclude_v the_o not_o baptize_v from_o eternal_a life_n if_o they_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o ordinary_a way_n thither_o and_o the_o only_a way_n that_o christ_n have_v teach_v we_o his_o majesty_n have_v nothing_o to_o object_n against_o that_o opinion_n but_o if_o it_o be_v simple_o deny_v that_o almighty_a god_n can_v save_v those_o which_o die_v unbaptise_v 〈◊〉_d his_o majesty_n and_o the_o church_n of_o england_n abhor_v the_o cruelty_n of_o that_o opinion_n do_v affirm_v that_o s._n augustine_n be_v a_o unnatural_a and_o hard_a father_n unto_o infant_n undoubted_o 〈◊〉_d his_o majesty_n think_v that_o both_o these_o extreme_n be_v with_o the_o like_a care_n to_o be_v eschew_v lest_o if_o we_o embrace_v this_o rigid_a sentence_n we_o abbreviate_v the_o power_n of_o god_n and_o offer_v wrong_n to_o his_o infinite_a goodness_n or_o while_o as_o some_o do_v we_o reckon_v baptism_n among_o such_o thing_n the_o have_v or_o forego_v whereof_o be_v not_o much_o material_a 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