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A13169	The examination and confutation of a certaine scurrilous treatise entituled, The suruey of the newe religion, published by Matthew Kellison, in disgrace of true religion professed in the Church of England	Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629.	1606 (1606)	STC 23464; ESTC S117977	107,346	141

to his clouen feete And lastly how it hapned that speaking of the Deuill in the first part of the period he forgot himselfe in the second speaketh of some member of the Deuill and of an Hereticke what are Heretikes discerned by their staring eyes and forked feete and such like partes he telleth vs also of the pecking of Birdes and the counterfeting of alchymistes grauers and Heretickes putting grauers of idolatrous images nere to Heretikes as they doe well deserue But what is that to vs if heretikes be such as counterfet religion and yet are gone out of the Church then concerneth it vs nothing For with our mouth we professe and with our hart we beleeue all the Christian and Apostolike faith and dissent not from the Apostolike church in any one article of faith professed publikelye for a thousand yeares after Christ Nay wee doe onely relinquish the Papists as Christians in old time left the Arians and Donatists and as some now leaue the Mahometans wherein they haue forsaken Christ and his truth Either then must this K. shew that as former heretikes haue done we broach some doctrine contrarye to the ancient faith or else hee talketh idelye of going out of the Church Maister Luther he left the Papists hauing once folowed their opinions but not in any point of faith but rather where they taught contrary to the faith Secondly neuer shall he prooue either that the professors of our Religion are of a later standing then the moderne Papistes or that our religion embraceth nouelties For Luther is not our founder nor any of late time but the Apostles of Christ Iesus whose doctrine left in deposte to the church we embrace detesting all prophane nouelties of Papistes Neither doe we bring in any new faith but reiect the popish later Heresies and corruptions though to some they seeme olde But saith Kellison the faith hath neuer increased in substāce but onely in explicatiō as if their Doctrine of traditions of Romish interpretations of the latin vulgar translation of the 7. sacramēts of iustificatiō by orders and extreme vnction of transubstantiation of the carnall eating chāping with the teeth of Christes flesh of the sacrifice of Christes body blood in the Masse vnder the accidentes of breade wine for quicke and dead and the Popes vniuersall Monarchie were matters of no substance or else as if the substance of these Articles had beene euer beleeued in the Church This he would insinuate but the noueltie of them is so apparent that his consorts are much puzled when they come to search them in auncient writers Thirdly we neither call our selues Lutherians Caluinistes Zuinglians nor any such particular names Neither is it materiall that the Papistes doe call vs in scorne by these names For who doth credite the malicious tearmes of enemies nay in this point we are more cléere then the papistes that call themselues some Franciscans some Dominicans some by other names which we doe not Fourthly wee renounce all old Heresies condemned by auncient Councels and pronounce Florinus that held God to bee the author of sinne Anathema The like we say of Eunomius Pelagius and their consortes Neither was Caluin of other opinion but that his malicious enemies doe falsely impute vnto him that he should teach that God is the author of sinne Wee doe not say with Iouinian that all sins are equall nor denie to the bodies of Christians decent buriall Nor did Hierome writing against Vigilantius allowe prayers to Saints departed or the merits of Monkery or teach as the Papistes doe of vigils or lightes set vp in churches at noone time But suppose he shold holde opinions cōtrary to the truth yet are not his wordes a rule of Heresie The second synod at Nice allowed a certaine reuerence doone to images but nothing so much as the Papistes now giue to them But whatsoeuer that synode decreed in that point the same was reprooued in a synod at Frank-ford and neuer generallye receiued eyther in the East or West Churches Aerius was reputed an Hereticke for Arianisme and not for finding fault with superstitious oblations for the dead Whatsoeuer his opinion was it toucheth vs nothing that doe allow the orders of the Church established among vs. Finally we anathematize the Heresies of the Simonians Menandrians and others whome he ridiculously surmiseth to haue bene condemned for denying the real presence of the Messalians and Caians whome he imagineth to haue beene accounted Heretikes for denying the sacramentes to conteine grace as the Papistes hold it of the Nouatians that denyed repentance to publike sinners of the Gnostikes Manichees and Encratites whome hee ignorantlye surmiseth to haue beene condemned for denying marryage to bee a Sacrament of Heluidius Rhetorius and all other auncient condemned Heretikes If then this Hereticke will obiect Heresies to vs hee must both set downe the wordes of the Heresie condemned by the Catholike Church and prooue that wee holde such an Heresie Fiftly wee want no proofe of our Religion which may be drawne from true succession For we do not only communicate in matters of faith with the Apostles but also with the auncient Bishops of Hierusalem Antioche Alexandria and Rome almost for a thousand yeares Wee succeede also to the Bishops of England before Bishop Cranmer in al things which they taught well and according to the Catholike fayth But could we shew no line of succession yet if we agree in doctrine with the Apostles and first Bishops of the Christian Church it is sufficient Ad hanc formam prouocabuntur ab illis ecclesiis saith Tertullian de praescript aduers haeret quae licet nullum ex apostolis vel apostolicis authorem suum proferant vt multo posteriores quae denique quotidie instituuntur tamen in eadem fide conspirantes non minus apostolicae deputantur pro consanguinitate doctrinae He telleth vs playnly that they are Apostolike Churches that teach the same Doctrine albeit they were not founded by the Apostles or Apostolike men nor had any succession of Bishops Likewise hee sheweth that they are the Apostles heires that hold that fayth which is conteined in their Testament Seeing then we do only publish Apostolicall Doctrine and purge away Popish errors our Churches are most truly Apostolicall But sayth K. pag. 196. This is to make bare Scripture judge of our Doctrine and as much as if we should say that the Church of God fayled and that the Synagogue of the Diuell possessed the world many yeares Hee telleth also how Luther in his preface before the disputation of Lipsia vanted that he had first published Christ But first this is a common abuse of Heretikes to call Scriptures bare Secondly false do clearely disperse this cloud of slaunder But his foolish attempt may giue cause to vs to touch both him and his consortes for their manifold and blasphemous impietyes In the beginning of his third Booke he sayth that as the Stoickes commend Zeno the Platonickes Plato the Peripatetickes Aristotle the

these Cardines terrae or rather terren and carnall Cardinalls may goe in vltimos fines terrae that is into the vtmoste endes of the earth to seeke for their mission The Monkes and Fryars are no where mentioned in Scripture vnlesse it be Apocalyps 9. Where wée finde that Locustes did issue out of the smoke of the bothomlesse pit whereby is signified that by their smoky traditions they should obscure the light of the Gospell They succeede not Pastors and Teachers For their profession is pouertie chastitie and obedience to monkish rules and not to teach or administer Sacraments Hierome and all antiquitie put monkes after Priests and range them in another order Fryars entred but lately into the Church vnder the conduct of Dominicke and Francis Their authoritie is wholy from the Pope and other commission can they shew none Masse-priestes are not sent to preach and administer the Sacraments but to sacrifice Christs bodie and blood vnder the accidents of bread and wine for quick and dead as appeareth in the formall wordes of their ordination But such a mission is no where found in Scripture For our Sauiour instituting the Sacrament of the Eucharist said accipite edite bibite That is take eate drinke and not sacrificate pro viuis et defunctis that is Sacrifice for quicke dead True it is that he saith hoc facite that is doe this But hoc facere doth no where eyther in Scripture or prophane Authors signifie sacrifice this Virgil is alleadged where one saith cum faciam vitula But if they bring no better proofes the Masse-priests will prooue themselues as wise as Calues For it is one thing to say facere vitula and facere hoc Beside that Virgil yet was neuer esteemed a good interpreter of Christes wordes To omitte Scriptures this sacrificing Preest-hood of the Romanistes hath no proofe out of Fathers For no where in any authenticall writing of theirs is any mention made of such an ordination Nay it is apparant that the same was first talked of by idle Schoolemen and authorized after a sort by the conuenticle of Florence vnder Eugenius the fourth Finally neither doe Scriptures nor Fathers mention any such real carnal and corporall sacrifice of Christes body and blood made in the Eucharist vnder the accidentes of breade and wine for the sinnes of the quicke and dead as I haue fully demonstrated in my Bookes de m●ssa against Bellarmine Nay the Canon it selfe dooth signifie that the sacrifice of the Church is offered as well by the people as the Priest as these words declare qui tibi offerunt But the Papists wil not say that the people offereth vp Christs body Further the Masse-priest prayeth that God would be pleased to accept the sacrifice but it is absurd to make a Masse-priest mediator for Christs body and blood If then they bee false Prophets Theeues Robbers that come without missiō or sufficient warrant then are the Popes of Rome Cardinals Monkes Fryars and Masse-priests false Prophets Theeues and Robbers And that may in part also bee prooued by the confession of our aduersarie For if as hee saith all are to bée reputed such that can neither shew ordinarie calling from the Apostles nor extraordinarie from the spirit of God then are they to bee shunned as false Prophets and false teachers and punished seuerely not onely as men lately besmired with Gunne-powder but also as false Theeues Robbers For extraordinarie calling they pretend none ordinarie calling authorized by Gods word they haue none as hath in part beene prooued Further we say that whereas two thinges are to be respected in ordination of Bishops Ministers of Gods word viz. the rite of ordination the substance of the function whereto they are ordeyned in the popish Church our aduersaries haue neither of these two lawfull First they haue no impositiō of hands by Bishops For they haue no lawful Bishops allow the impositiō of hands of Abbots Further their Bishops are no successors of the Apostles but the popes creatures that is rather a temporal prince then a Bishop The Monks and Fryars are rather called to doe pennance then to preach whē they are shorne Secondly their Priests are not called to preach and baptise which was the forme and substance of the mission of the Apostles and their successors but to sacrifice Christes body and blood vnder the accidents of breade and wine for quicke and dead which forme and function neither Kellison nor all the rabble of Romish Priests and Fryars shall euer prooue to bee auncient lawful or authenticall Against our Bishops Priests and Deacons no such matter can be excepted For first it cānot be denyed but that our Bishops were lawfully ordeined by imposition of handes of other lawfull Bishops The Ordination of Bishop Cranmer other Bishops then liuing the Papistes themselues cannot deny to be lawfull But from them other Bishops folowing receiued the rite of consecration Bishop Parker was consecrated by the imposition of handes of Bishop Barloe Bishop Couerdale Bishop Scory and two Suffragans mentioned in the Acte of consecration yet to be seene which not onely had succession from such Bishops as our aduersaries account lawfull but in deede were lawfull Bishops Our bretherne in Germany and Zuizzerland had imposition of handes from Luther Zuinglius Oecolampadius Bucer and others in France from Farel in Scotland from Knox and others whome the Papistes cannot deny to haue bene lawfully ordeined Priests at the least if their owne formes were lawfull And from these men their successors al other Pastors Ministers of the Church haue receiued the rite of impositiō of handes or ordination to the Ministery Neither is it materiall that the first preachers of the Gpspel in these Countries were not Bishops and so called as it was in England For suppose no Bishop would haue renoūced the heresyes of Popery nor haue taught sincerely should not inferiour ministers teach truth and ordeine other teachers after them Furthermore they wanted nothing of true Bishops but the name and tytle Finally the rite and imposition of handes by such as are called Bishops is not so necessary but that in a defection of Bishops of a nation and in case of other extreme necessitye Ministers may lawfully be ordained by other Ministers which is prooued first for that generally the Presbytery or Ministery of the Church hath right to impose handes and next for that the Keyes are called Claues Ecclesiae and not Claues Episcoporum and lastly for that necessitie admitteth not the obseruance of all ceremonyes As for example admit a multitude of Christians should goe into the Indiaes without ministers it is not to be supposed but they haue power to appoint Ministers among them selues in this case of necessitye Secondly it is certaine that the Bishops and Ministers of reformed Churches haue bene sent to preach and so administer the Sacraments by such as had authoritye in the Church and that they haue executed their function accordingly Why then