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A04400 A discouery of the errors of the English Anabaptists As also an admonition to all such as are led by the like spirit of error. Wherein is set downe all their seuerall and maine points of error, which they hold. With a full answer to euery one of them seuerally, wherein the truth is manifested. By Edmond Iessop who sometime walked in the said errors with them. Etherington, John, fl. 1641-1645.; Jessop, Edmond, attributed name. 1623 (1623) STC 14520; ESTC S107746 83,433 114

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worshipped so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God shewing himselfe that he is God According as the Prophet had spoken of him long before prophesying also of his destruction saying How art thou falne from heauen O Lucifer sonne of the morning how art thou cut downe to the ground thou that didst weaken the nations and saidst in thine heart I will ascend into heauen I will exalt my throne aboue the starres of God I will sit also vpon the mount euen the holy mount of the congregation of God in the sides of the North I will ascend aboue the height of the clouds I will be like the most high So that the great Antichrist was to sit and doth sit euen in the Church in the Temple of God in the place where indeed he ought not to sit If then all these things be so as these Scriptures doe declare If it be not the outward calling ordination or succession in the offices and places of the true Elders and Ministers of God in the outward state of the Church of God that can either make them true faithfull Ministers of God such as come by the doore as Christ speaketh Or the Church of which they are ouerseers and ministers the true holy Church of Christ but that these Elders and Ministers may yet neuerthelesse proue false Prophets false teachers grieuous rauening wolues in sheepes cloathing Antichrists c. And the Churches be corrupted by them robd and deuoured both outwardly and inwardly and become euen heathenish and Antichristian And that these deceiuers shall rise in the Church of God and be such as haue had their outward ordination and succession from hand to hand as it were euen from the Apostles And that the great Antichrist himselfe shall sit in the holy place in the temple of God vpon the holy mount of the congregation of God aboue and besides the starres of God What reason haue we then to thinke I say this being so that the outward calling or ordination which the Elders and Ministers of the Church of England receiued at first from the Church of Rome should make either them or the Church false and Antichristian It was not the outward ordination or succession in the offices and place of the Elders that did corrupt any of them before mentioned Nay The Bishop of Rome himselfe might haue beene Bishop of Rome long enough to this day to the day of Christs comming in the cloudes of heauen and haue done his master Christ good seruice If he had kept the first faith If he had liued the first life If he had successed the Apostles and Elders in faith in doctrine in exhortation in patience in temperance in meekenesse in mortification in loue in good workes in feeding the flock of Christ and giuing them their meate in due season as he did succeed them in outward place he had then beene a Scribe well taught in the kingdome of God A faithfull Bishop an Elder worthy of double honour and happy had that flock beene of which he had beene an ouerseer and his master at his comming would haue said Blessed be this seruant But seeing he failed in all these things and did not succeed his Elders in this way and order of succession as all their true successors to this day haue euer done seeing his heart was euill and vnfaithfull ambitious couetous and loued pleasures and voluptuousnesse more then God and said in his heart My master will deferre his coming and therefore take vpon him to smite his fellowes to eate and drinke with the drunken his Lord will come in a day which he thinketh not on and in an houre that he is not aware of and will hew him in peeces and giue him his portion with the hypocrites and vnhappie is the flock that hath him for their shepherd The Church of Rome was once a glorious Church not in regard of any such pomp and princely state as she that now is sits in which poore virgin she was neuer acquainted with but in respect of the light and brightnesse of her faith as Saint Paul testifieth which by reason of the fruite it did effect and bring forth in her shined and made her face to shine throughout the world She was a sister and daughter of that woman which Iohn saw so wonderfully and heauenly deckt and adorned and which he describeth saying And there appeared a great wonder in heauen a woman clothed with the Sunne and the Moone vnder her feete and vpon her head a crowne of twelue starres that is to say she had put on Christ he dwelt in her heart by faith she was clothed with him his righteousnesse couered her nakednesse and all her defects and made her beautifull within and without she had the earth and all earthly glorie vnder her feete as transitorie and vaine she was mortified to sinne and to the pleasures thereof and her soules delight was with her Lord in heauen where he was ascended and yet remaineth and her crowne of state which she had on her head in those days was the Lambs twelue Apostles whose doctrine and example of walking were her guide and patterne and who as they had receiued of the Lamb the word of God so they left it with her to be her light and leader in the desart when her publique guides should faile her of which word of truth not so much the letter as the spirituall true intent thereof she and her children her true successors haue been the sustainers and pillars of to this day This was once of a truth the estate of the Church of Rome as also of other Churches elsewhere but alas it lasted but a while it fared with her as with the rest for by the bloody persecution of the great red Dragon her outward beautie was defaced she was dispersed and forced to flie with them into the wildernesse and then after a while when the storme of persecution was ouer and that a calme began to be settled so as she began to conceiue some hope of recouering her first estate heresies sprang vp and were maintained with great force on the one side and carnall securitie grew on the other and that iniquitie might be increased according as the Lord had foretold the loue of many waxed cold The mystery of iniquitie which began to worke in the Apostles times they being departed took now faster footing according to their words and stroue daily to perfection and at last he that letted was taken away and the man of sinne Antichrist was reuealed and set vp in the throne of the Dragon and the Dragons religion was by him and his so commanded and commixt with the external profession of the name and religion of Christ as that no man could partake of the better but he must partake of the worse For after that the Bishop of Rome had obtained at the Dragons hāds that his Church should be the Mother of all other Churches and that all must
wrath But whatsoeuer Anabaptist do retaine the mariage of the Church of England do retaine the marke of the Beast Therefore whatsoeuer Anabaptist do retaine the mariage of the Church of England shall certainly drinke of the cup of Gods wrath Euery mariage which is marke of the Beast must be made void to auoid the wrath of God But euery mariage of the Anabaptists in the Church of England before their schisme from it is a mark of the Beast Therefore euery mariage of the Anabaptists in the Church of England before their schisme from it must be made void to auoid the wrath of God Which being true then cease they to be maried as children to be baptized That the baptisme of children neither is nor can be the mark of the Beast spoken of in Reuel 13. 16. These men might easily perceiue if they were not altogether ignorant and destitute of vnderstanding what the nature of that marke is For the marke of the Beast there spoken of is such a thing indeed as yong children are not capable of and therefore they are not set downe among those that are said to receiue the same And hee causeth all both small and great rich and poore free and bond to receiue a marke in their right hand or in their forehead Meaning by small and great such as are so in regard of their high and low places and callings in the world and by rich and poore such as are rich or poore in regard of the plenty or scarcitie of the riches and things of this world and present life and by free and bond they that are at libertie and free and they that be in bondage or captiuitie in regard of any captiuitie or seruitude to men Hee doth not say yong and old which if yong children had been included amongst them he should haue said because they are all so distinctly and seuerally named that doe receiue it Besides the marke of the Beast being such a thing as it is namely a voluntary submission and resolute purpose to do and subscribe to all the lawes and commandements of the Beast whether secretly or openly and to declare and testifie themselues to be such as are allied vnto him both by word and deed And thus hauing also made cleere this point we end hoping that the things which are spoken will giue to those that are not wilfull and obstinate but of a meeke and lowly heart full satisfaction Their seuenth point That Church of England is a false Antichristian Church and ought to be seperated from That it is false and Antichristian we proue thus That the Church whose Bishop and Ministers haue had their first ordination from the false Antichristian Church of Rome whereof Antichrist is the head is false and Antichristian But the Church of England her Bishops and Ministers haue had their first ordination from the false Antichristian Church of Rome whereof Antichrist is the head Therefore the Church of England is a false Antichristian Church That it ought therefore to be seperated from we proue thus If euery false Antichristian Church ought to be seperated from then the Church of England ought to be seperated from because she is false and Antichristian as before is proued But euery false and Antichristian Church ought to be seperated from as Reu. 18. 4. Come out of her my people c. Therefore the Church of England ought to be seperated from We Answere THe first proposition of this Argument is false A Church whose Bishops Ministers haue had their first ordination outward from the false Antichristian Church of Rome whereof Antichrist is head may yet notwithstanding be a true Church and they true Bishops and Ministers and not Antichristian It is not the outward ordination which a Bishop or Minister hath before his conuersion receiued of a false Antichristan Church that can either pollute him benow conuerted and called of God or make the Church to which he ministreth false or Antichristian Neither is it the bare outward ordination receiued of the best Church that euer was in the world and in the best outward forme that is that can make either him that receiueth it a true faithfull Minister of God or the Church to which he ministreth a true Church of Christ But he may be both a false teacher an Antichrist and his Church false and antichristian notwithstanding Those false teachers and Antichrists that were in the Apostles times had no doubt their first ordination from the true Church of God in as good an outward forme as any is or can be and that Church or people that were led by them could not chuse but be vnsound The Scriptures foretelling of false prophets false teachers Antichrists and of the great Antichrist which should arise describeth them to rise not from among the heathen or Iewes as some imagine the great Antichrist shall but in and out of the Church of God euen of and from among those that should succeed the Apostles and Elders of the Churches which the Apostles did plant succeed I say as touching the outward ordination in the externall offices and places of them Saint Paul being neere his departure from his labors to the Lord calling the Elders of the Church of Ephesus together forewarned them saying And now behold I know that yee all amongst whom I haue gone preaching the kingdome of God shall see my face no more wherefore I take you to record this day that I am pure from the bloud of all men for I haue kept nothing backe but haue declared vnto you all the counsell of God take heed therefore vnto yourselues and to the flocke whereof the holy Ghost hath made you ouerseers to feede the Church of God which he hath purchased with his owne bloud For I know this that after my departing shall grieuous wolues enter in among you not sparing the flock Moreouer of your owne selues shall men arise speaking peruerse things to draw disciples after them Therefore watch and remember These were such as the holy Ghost had made ouerseers so that their outward calling ordination and succession could not be excepted against and yet we see what Paul foretells and forewarnes them of Againe Saint Iohn speaking of Antichrists that rose in his time saith They went out from vs c. And Christ himselfe foretelling of the abhomination of desolation which should be set vp by the great Antichrist saith that it shall stand in the holy place where it ought not When yee therefore shall see the abhomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the Prophet stand in the holy place Meaning by the holy place the Church of God the place where God dwelleth and is worshipped as Saint Paul declareth saying Let no man deceiue you by any meanes for that day shall not come except there be a departing first and that the man of sinne be reuealed the Sonne of perdition who opposeth and exalteth himselfe aboue all that is called God or that is