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A03269 An answere to a popish ryme, lately scattered abroad in the west parts, and much relyed vpon by some simply-seduced. By Samuel Hieron, minister of the word of God, at Modbury in Deuon Hieron, Samuel, 1576?-1617.; Marlorat, Augustin, 1506-1562. Catholike and ecclesiasticall exposition of the holy gospell after S. Marke and Luke. 1604 (1604) STC 13388; ESTC S119038 35,551 44

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Rome was conuerted As for example let mee know And if thou canst I pray thée show What Church did take in hand The first conuersion of this Land e The Apostles Church for ought you can proue to the contrary And all other countries euery where Throughout the world farre and neere f Who but a Papist would dare to say this If this were not the Church of Rome Then will I be conuerted soone g You build your Faith vpon a very sure groūd Saint Paul in his Epistle fayth h Did Paul say that Rome should neuer deny the Fayth The Romanes had the Catholique Fayth Saying it was renowned Spoken of or published Through the world ouer all Catholique Vniuersall And if your Churches were euen so i Our Church is a part of the Catholique Church disproue it if you can Then to your Churches I would go k You may come to our Churches the Pope giueth you leaue so that you keepe your heartes to him Prophets SO sayth the Prophet Malachy There should be offred farre and nye A cleane Oblation or Sacrifice l When you read Altar and Sacrifice you thinke strait that makes for the Masse not knowing or not seeming to know the language of the Scripture From place where now the Sun doeth rise To the going downe of the same And what is that I pray thée name If it be not the holy Masse I will be a Protestant as I was m If thou hadst bene of vs thou wouldest haue continued with vs 1. Iob. 2.19 In the eightéenth Psalme I found The whole world should heare their sound n Namely of the Apostles and their doctrine proue our Doctrine to disagree with theirs And it this marke you doe not want Presently I will recant Continuance THis is another marke most sure The Fayth of Christ must still endure o Christes Fayth must endure therfore Rome is the true Church A hote Argument According as our Sauiour sayd When for Saint Peter hee had prayd Simon thy Fayth shall neuer fayle The gates of Hell shall not preuayle The holy Ghost your Comforter Shall remayne with you for euer And I my selfe your surest friend Will be with you vnto the end Saint Paul hath the like speach There shall be alwayes men to preach Apostles p Some say they are Apostles and are not Re. 2.2 Doctours and the like In the Church Catholike If this be not the Church of Rome q Because you say it we are boūd to beleeue it Then will I be conuerted soone Visible ANother marke there is most cleare The Church of God must still appeare As a City on a hill r Some wrest the Scriptures to their owne destruction 2. Pet. 3.16 Take heed Seene and continue still As a light on a Candlesticke So is the Church Catholique Our Sauiour sayth If one offend And will not be ruled by his friend Tell all the Church without delay s Would you haue vs go to Rome with euery cōplaynt it seemeth so for you tye the Church to that See And if he will not then obay Doe thou estéeme such a man An Heathen or a Publican Is not that the Church wherein we sée Two hundred Bishops thirty thrée To haue succéeded each other Since the time of Saint Peter t You must first prooue that Saint Peter was Bishop of Rome Shew mee this marke in you u Thou thy selfe sayst there haue bene successiuely 63. Bishops in England since Peter then eyther ours is the true Church or else succession of Bishops is no sure marke And I will say your Fayth is true If this be not in the Fayth of Rome Then will I be conuerted soone Vnity ANother marke there is truly The Church must haue Vnity As our Sauiour hath foretold One Shepheard and one Fold One is my Spouse one is my Loue One is my Darling and my Doue This is his Spouse and at some time He doeth resemble it to a Vine His Father is the Husbandman A Branch is euery Christian This is his Body Mysticall The which he doeth his Kingdome call Whereof Saint Peter had the Keyes w What became of the Keyes when Pope Iulius 2. threw them into Tibur And his Successors haue alwayes x As though no body did succeede Peter but the Pope who is rather the successour of Romulus then Peter as Pope Hadrian the fourth said when he dyed And likewise Saint Paul sayth One Baptisme and one Fayth And one Lord IESV Haue no dissention among you If this be not the Church of Rome Then will I be conuerted soone Holy THis you say in very déede When you rehearse the holy Créede y So you say in the Creede that Christ sitteth at the right hand of God and yet you say also he is in body present at the Masse One Church Catholique Holy and Apostolique This is another marke truely The Church of God must be holy Holy men Holy Seruice Ceremonies Sacrifice Sacraments and Holy dayes Are obserued in her alwayes As for the Saints and Martyrs all And Virgins which you Saynts doe call I aske you when they liued and where Whose names are in your Calender In what Religion they dyed By whom they were Canonized z Who made the Pope a Saint-maker Proue that these agrée with you And I will say your Fayth is true If they were not your company a You stand so much vpon Company that you will rather goe to the Deuill then want Company Then is your Fayth an Heresy Heretikes OVr Sauiour warneth vs to haue care Of false Prophets to beware b That makes vs take heed of you Which in his name shall come Not sent yet they shall runne c There bee many of your Church come amongst vs to work mischiefe before you bee sent for Théeues not entring by the Doore d A liuely description of the Popes Clergy That kill and steale and kéepe a stoore Woolues in Shepheards clothing That kill the Soule and steale the tithing Dogges Foxes and Masters of lyes That newe Sects will deuise Bringing in dissention And heape thousands to perdition Where haue you bene this many a yere That none of you durst once appeare Euer since our Sauiours time To whom did your Light shine e To those which had eyes to see it Where did your principall Pastor sit f In Heauen Who kept your keyes who fed your shéep g You haue butchered a good sort of them Shew some Churches you haue built I can shew many you haue spilt How might a man haue found you out To haue tryall in a matter of doubt h You be too proud to learne It is the first lesson you teach your Disciples to admit no conference Where for so many a yeere No such company did appeare Vntill Luther a lying Fryer i If Luther had continued a true Frier he had neuer bene good Vpon whom the