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A88083	Erastus Junior. Or, A fatal blovv to the clergies pretensions to divine right. In a solid demonstration, by principles, forms of ordination, canon-laws, acts and ordinances of Parliament, and other publique acts, instruments, records, and proceedings, owned by themselves, that no bishop, nor minister, (prelatical, or Presbyterian) nor presbytery (classical, or national) hath any right or authority to preach, ... in this nation, from Christ, but onely from the Parliament. In two parts: the one demonstrating it to an episcopal, the other to a Presbyterian minister. By Josiah Web, Gent. a serious detester of the dregs of the Antichristian hierarchy yet remaining among us.	Lewgar, John, 1602-1665.	1660 (1660)	Wing L1831; Thomason E1010_11; ESTC R202720	19,588	24

though it be not one of those two which are generally necessary to salvation Bish of Derr 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 97. that is giving a grace or free gift of the Holy Ghost from Christ immediately to preach and minister Sacraments what grace they gave you they gave you to all Congregations in the world alike as much to every one as to any one because they propagated to you the same power as Christ gave to his Apostles when he said to them As my father sent me so I send you Receive the Holy Ghost Whose sins you remit c. Preach the Gospel to every creature c. whence it is that being once Ordained you are capable to preach and minister Sacraments to any creature or Congregation in the world by meer Mission onely without a new Ordination If then the grace they gave you were Authority to preach and minister Sacraments to that Congregation these absurdities would inevitably follow 1. You would be a Pastor Apostolique or such a one as the Apostles were that is a Vniversal one created by Christ immediately and consequently a supreme one subject to no mortal superior in the exercise of your jurisdiction which would utterly overthrow all your Hierarchy 2. The next words at the delivery of the Bible to you Take thou authority to preach in the Congregation where thou shalt be appointed would be 1. Vain and absurd to give authority given before 2. Retractatory of the former 1. To qualifie the authority given before absolute 2. To suspend it to a future condition or event possible never to be when it was given before absolutely and in present 3. Your Mission afterward to that Church of N. would have been 1. An act vain and arrogant in the Bishop to authorize you to preach and to one Congregation after Christ himself had authorized you both to that and to any other 2. A proceeding injurious to all other Priests to Institute you Pastor of that as your proper charge with this priviledge that none might minister a Sacrament or so much as preach there without your consent when Christ had Instituted every one of them Pastor of it in common with you for if by the words of Ordination he authorized you to that Cure by the same words he authorized every other Priest in the world to it as much as you 3. A proceeding injurious to your own self 1. To accept of a Pastorship from the Bishop and so to hold it of him as your mesne Lord liable to be suspended or deprived of it at any time by sentence of his Court when you had a right to hold it immediately of the Lord Paramont and so without subjection or service to any but him 2. To accept from him the Pastorship of one Cure and that none of the best in England when Christ had authorised you to any Cure in the land or in the world where you would please to undertake it The Church of Rome therefore whose apes you are in this right of Ordination and whose scholars in your doctrine of its being a Sacrament doth not hold that the qualifying grace or as they call it Character given by Ordination is any authority but a meer power to exercise lawfully such an Office when authority shall be given for it by Mission And if you will avoid these absurdities you must say that no authority but this power onely was given you by these first words Receive the Holy Ghost c. Secondly that the next words at the delivery of the Bible to you Take thou authority c. gave you no authority to preach in that Congregation of N. is manifest from the words themselves because they authorized you onely as to such Congregation where you should be appointed which you were not then in that Church of N. If you say these words gave you your authority to preach in any Congregation where you should be appointed and your appointing in that of N. onely determined the place or assigned you a matter or subject whereon to exercise it I ask whether after these words Take thou authority c. and afore your appointing in that Church of N. you had a power in your own right without asking the Pastors consent to preach lawfully in that Church of N. I suppose you will not dare not say you had for then your appointing to it signified nothing and then every Priest would be a lawful Pastor to every flock where and when he pleased and all your Hierarchy which subsists in the distinction of Pastors and Flocks would fall to the ground And if you say you had no such power you grant what I say that these words gave you no authority to preach in that Congregation but your appointment or as I call it your mission did not only determine the place or assign you a matter or subject whereon to exercise the authority afore given you but gave you your first authority there And consequently though the Bishop said to you Take authority c. he could not possibly mean by authority any more then a power to preach lawfully in any place where you should be appointed If you say that power was given you in the words afore and so would be vainly given you again here I grant your inference for though I argue validly from your form of Ordination against you who approve it I who approve it not am not concerned to defend it So I hope I have sufficiently proved the first part of my Minor That you have no Authority to preach to that Congregation of N. by your Ordination The second part of it That you have none from Christ but onely from the Parliament by your Mission I thus make good If he who gave you your Mission had no authority from Christ but onely from the Parliament to give it you you have no authority from Christ but onely from the Parliament by your Mission But he who gave you your Mission had no authority from Christ but onely from the Parliament to give it you Therefore you have no authority from Christ but onely from the Parliament by your Mission The sequel of the major is evident in the terms The minor is thus proved If William Lawd had authority from Christ to give you Mission it must be either as he was a Bishop Ordine or as he was a Bishop Officio that is as he was Archbishop of Canterbury But he had no authority to give you Mission as he was a Bishop Ordine nor from Christ but onely from the Parliament as he was Archbishop of Canterbury Therefore he had no authority from Christ but onely from the Parliament to give you Mission The sequel of the major I cannot suppose will be denied because no third ordinary way is imaginable And you cannot say he had it in both respects joyntly if as will appear in proof of the minor he had none at all as he was a Bishop Ordine The first part of the minor That he had no

other quality or capacity but as he was Bishop of London because as he was a Presbyter he could not Institute Pastors by himself alone as he did those nor Institute them in any wise as a Bishop Ordine Secondly because supposing they had been Ministers of those Churches by Authority from Christ yet as they were single Presbyters they had no authority so much as to Ordain and much less to give Mission but onely as they were Associated into a Classis or Presbytery (a) Preaching Ministers orderly Associated are those to whom Imposition of hands doth appertain Humb. Adv. of Div. at Westm in the Doctr. part of Ordin §. 10. Now this Association was not made formed or authorized by any authority from Christ but onely of the Parliament and so those Ministers who gave you your Mission did not give it you as Presbyters or Officers of the Church instituted by Christ but meerly as Officers or Commissioners of the Parliament which it was by accident that any of them were Presbyters This appears First because for Associating the first Presbytery there was no other imaginable ordinary Authority then in the Land but that of the Parliament And if you will say the first was Associated by Christ immediately any of those whom you call Sectaries say as much for their authority and with as much reason Secondly because it appears by the Ordinances Acts and publick Proceedings of the Parliament by you owned and abetted in abolishing the form of Church Government and Discipline then established and introducing another in place thereof in settling Classes and authorizing them to Ordain Ministers in ejecting Ministers and placing others in their Cures in Collating and Instituting to vacant Benefices and executing these powers not by Presbyters onely but by Lay-Committees nay by single Lords and Officers of the Army c. that the supream visible Authority in matters Ecclesiastical in this Land was in the Parliament and so no Classis was Associated but by authority of the Parliament and after its Association had no authority to give Mission or exercise any other act of Jurisdiction but what it had from the Parliament For Instance I name these Ordinances 1. That of 12. June 1643. Whereas it hath been declared and resolved by the Lords and Commons in Parliament that the present Church Government by Archbishops Bishops c. is evil c. and that therefore they are resolved that the same shall be taken away and that such a Government shall be settled in the Church of England as may be most agreeable to Gods Word c. the right Honourable Algernon Percy Earl of Northumberland c. naming other Earls and Lords John Selden Dr. Gouge c. naming divers others Lawyers Gentlemen and Divines are hereby authorized and enjoyned to sit confer and treat of such things as concern the Discipline and Government of the Church of England as shall be proposed to them by both or either House of Parliament c Provided that they assume not to exercise any Jurisdiction Ecclesiastical whatsoever or any other power then is particularly expressed 2. That of 22. January following The Earl of Manchester shall have authority in the associated Counties to eject all such Ministers as he shall judge unfit for their places and to place in their rooms such as shall be approved of by the Assembly of Divines at Westminster 3. That of 22. Feb. following The Lord Fairfax shall nominate and appoint such able and godly Divines as he shall think fit into all such Churches in the County of York as are or shall be destitute of Ministers 4. That of 23. April 1645. Philip Goodwin shall be henceforth Vicar of Watford and Officiate the Cure as Vicar thereof during his life without any further Admission or Induction 5. That of 26. April following None may preach but Ordained Ministers except such as intending the Ministery shall for trial of their Gifts be allowed by such as shall be appointed by the Parliament 6. That of 29. August 1648. Be it Ordained by the Authority of this Parliament that all Parishes in this Nation shall be brought under the Government of Congregational Provincial and National Assemblies c. And all Classes and Parochial Congregations are respectively hereby authorized and required to proceed accordingly c. The Province of London shall be divided into twelve Classical Elderships The first Classis to contain Alhallows c. The several Classes where no Congregational Presbyteries are already settled shall have power to nominate such Ministers and others as are qualified according to this Ordinance to joyn with them in the same to be approved by the Committee of Lords and Commons for Scandal until such time as Congregational Presbyteries shall be settled in the said respective Precincts c. When seven Congregational Elderships or more shall be constituted into any Classical Precinct the same shall be signified to the several Congregational Elders so established who shall depute fit Elders who together with their Ministers shall meet as a Classis c. That which shall be done by the major part of the Classis shall be esteemed as the act of the whole And none shall be esteemed a valid act unless done by four Ministers and eight Ruling Elders c. The power of Classicall Assemblies shall be 1. To Ordain and admit Ministers for the Congregations 2. To censure Ministers c. It is Ordained by the Authority of this Parliament that the Classical Presbyters within their Bounds may and shall Ordain Presbyters according to the Directory for Ordination hereafter expressed c. The Presbytery or five Ministers at least sent from them shall solemnly set him who is to be Ordained apart to the Office and work of the Ministery c. Laying their hands on him with a short Prayer or Blessing to this effect c. Let every one which is or shall be chosen for any Congregation or place not being at that time within the Bounds of any Classical Presbytery be Ordained by that Classis which he shall address himself unto c. And it is further Ordained by the Authority Aforesaid That all persons who shall be Ordained Presbyters according to this Directory shall be forever reputed to all intents for lawfull and sufficiently authorized Ministers c. Thirdly It appears from the humble Advice of your Divines assembled at Westminster unto the Parliament afore any Classes were formed to authorize Ministers to Associate themselves into Classes for the Ordaining of Ministers for the Army Navy City of London c. In these present exigencies while we cannot have any Presbyteries form'd up to their whole power and work c. And yet it is requisite that Ministers be Ordained for the service of places and Congregations destitute of Ministers by some who being set apart themselves for the work of the Ministery have power to joyn in the setting apart of others Let some Ministers in or about London be designed BY PUBLIQUE AUTHORITY meaning of the Parliament to which they addressed that Advice who being ASSOCIATED may Ordain Ministers for the City and vicinity c. And let the like ASSOCIATION be made BY THE SAME AUTHORITY in other Counties c. And so I have abundantly demonstrated my Thesis That you have no Authority to preach in that Church of N. where you are Minister from Christ but from the Parliament onely FINIS

Erastus Junior OR A FATAL BLOW TO THE CLERGIE'S Pretensions to DIVINE RIGHT In a solid Demonstration By Principles Forms of Ordination Canon-Laws Acts and Ordinances of Parliament and other publique Acts Instruments Records and Proceedings owned by themselves THAT No Bishop nor Minister Prelatical or Presbyterian nor Presbytery Classical or National hath any Right or Authority to Preach and consequently much less to Officiate in the publique Worship minister Sacraments demand Tythes ordain Pastors inflict Censures or exercise any other act of Simple and much less of Governing Jurisdiction in this Nation from Christ but onely from the Parliament In two parts the one demonstrating it to an Episcopal the other to a Presbyterian Minister By Josiah Web Gent. a serious detester of the Dregs of the Antichristian Hierarchy yet remaining among us LONDON Printed and are to be sold by Livewell Chapman at the Signe of the Crown in Popeshead Alley 1660. The Preface THere hath been much debate a long time betwixt the Prelatical and Presbyterian Clergy which of them hath Divine Right or Authority from Christ to preach minister Sacraments ordain Pastors inflict Censures and exercise other Acts of Spiritual Jurisdiction in this Nation whereas the plain truth is neither of them hath any from Christ but onely from the Parliament This truth I shall demonstrate in the ensuing Discourse by their own Principles forms of Ordination Acts or Ordinances of Parliament and other publique Acts Instruments and Records owned by themselves And in regard one of my means of proof is to be from their own Principles I shall alledge divers things as truths which are not so in my opinion but onely in theirs against whom I urge them and therefore also I shall in urging of them use their own terms And because the Demonstration will be more expedite and clear in one of these Acts singly then in so many together and the confuting their Divine Right as to any one of them will in consequence confute it in all the rest because they all hang by one string and Preaching is the first and least act of Jurisdiction and so the proof against that will prove more strongly against all the rest therefore I shall insist onely upon that of preaching and demonstrate that no Minister ordained by Imposition of hands and constituted a Pastor whether it hath been by any of the late Bishops or a Classical Presbytery hath any authority by which I mean power to exercise the Office lawfully so much as to preach by which I mean teaching Gods word by way of Office to any creature in this Nation from Christ that is by any bene placitum or will of his by him revealed or any means or ordinance by him instituted to that end but onely from the Parliament originally under God as author of Nature onely And my end in it is First to unbeguile the common people in their believing their Ministers as men of God and Ministers of Christ and their teaching as Gods word because of their being Ordained by Bishops or a Presbytery and villifying all others not so Ordained by the nick name of Tub-preachers by making it appear that there is not the meanest Teacher in the Land allowed by the State or deputed by a Congregation but is a Teacher sent and a man of God and Minister of Christ as much as the Reverendst Bishop or Minister of them all and his teaching is as truly the word of God as the best of theirs is that is when he holds forth a Text of Scripture or other revealed truth and the the best of theirs is no more or otherwise Secondly to vindicate the Authority of the Parliament in what they have done in abolishing Episcopacy and several branches of it or shall hereafter think fit to do in abolishing the yet remaining branches of it Imposition of hands Tythes Presentations Classes Synods National Ministery Directory c. and impowering every Congregation to depute their own Pastor by making it appear there is no Minister Priest Bishop Classis or Synod in this Land hath or since the Reformation of Religion by Henry the Eighth ever had any authority to Ordain Pastors demand Tythes license Preachers or so much as to preach but what he or they have or had originally under God from the Parliament which therefore by the same Authority whereby it established them may when it pleases dissolve them without any ones just complaint at the Authority And now then to go in hand with what I have undertaken and to proceed against them severally beginning first with the elder of the two the Prelatical Minister or Priest as he loves to be called The first Part. Demonstrating to an Episcopal Priest that he hath no authority to Preach from Christ but onely from the Parliament SIr I shall suppose your Case the best can be supposed of any Prelaticall Minister in England viz. That William Lawd late commonly called Archbishop of Canterbury being a true Bishop Ordine or in power of Episcopal Order and as much as the King and all the Bishops in England could make him lawful Archbishop of Canterbury Ordained you a true Priest and afterward gave you Mission to the Church of N. within his Diocess that is Instituted you Rector or Pastor of it and Licensed you to preach in that Congregation And I say that in this Case you have no authority to preach to that Congregation from Christ but onely from the Parliament And I make it good by this Argument You have no authority from Christ to preach to that Congregation but what you have either by your Ordination or by your Mission But you have no authority to preach to that Congregation by your Ordination and none from him but from the Parliament onely by your Mission Therefore you have none from him but onely from the Parliament The major is supposed in the Case nor is there any other ordinary way imaginable and you pretend not to extraordinary The first part of the minor That you have no authority to preach to that Congregation by your Ordination I prove from the form of your Ordination which was this The Bishop with the other Priests present laying their hands upon you the Bishop said these words to you Receive the Holy Ghost whose sins thou forgivest they are forgiven whose sins thou retainest they are retained and be thou a faithful dispenser of the Word of God and of his holy Sacraments In the Name of the Father c. After which the Bishop delivering the Bible to you said these words Take thou authority to preach the Word and to minister the holy Sacraments in this Congregation where thou shalt be so appointed So what authority you have by your Ordination must be given you by the one of these words Now First that the former words at the Imposition of hands Receive the holy Ghost c. gave you none is manifest because those words being Sacramental (a) We deny not Ordination to be a Sacrament

of the world which you grant the Pope to be of the West Conc. Nic. 1 Can. 6. which you count the proper Rule for judging even against Acts of Parliament in these matters (b) Councils truly General being the supream Tribunals of the Catholique Church do binde particular Churches as well in point of discipline as of faith Bish of Derr schism gard p. 475. English Statutes cannot change the essentials of ordination the validity or invalidity of it depends not upon humane Law but upon the Institution of Christ id 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 41. Judges at the Common Law have neither grounds nor rules in the Common Law for judging of the validity of an Episcopal Consecration id ib. p. 60. was not to it and partly because none of those who Confirmed or Consecrated him was an actual Bishop it was judged by her Council and by those Lawyers Civil and Canon who were advised with in it needful she should insert into her Patent a clause whereby by her supream royal authority she should enable those Bishops in regard of the present exigencies because neither the Popes consent nor actual Bishops enough to consecrate him could be had to supply to themselves all defects whatsoever in quality faculty or any other things necessary to that performance by the Laws of the Church For so it follows in the Patent Supplentes nihilominus suprema authoritate nostra Regia siquid in vobis aut vestrum aliquo conditione statu aut facultate vestris ad praemissa perficienda desit eorum quae per Statuta hujus Regni nostri aut per Leges Ecclesiasticas in hac parte requiruntur aut necessaria sunt temporis ratione rerum necessitate id postulante That is Supplying nevertheless to your selves by our supream Regal Authority hereby delegated to you to that end if any thing in you or any one of you or in your condition state or faculty to the performing of the Premises is wanting of those things which by the Statutes of this our Realm or by the Ecclesiastical Laws are in this behalf requisite or necessary the condition of the time and necessity of things requiring it So you see how true it was I said they could do neither of those Acts without her Commission when not onely her Commission was judged necessary to give them power to do them but her Dispensation also to make their acts valid non obstante the Laws of the Church The fourth Proposition The Queens Letters Patents was not a meer Mandate commanding them to execute their Office which they might be supposed to have from Christ but a Commission authorizing them to do what they did so as they acted in it not as Bishops or Officers authorized by Christ but meerly as her Commissioners That in that quality onely they Confirmed him themselves expresly acknowledge and declare in the Instrument of his Confirmation as it is to be seen in the Records at Lambeth For thus they say In nomine Domini Amen Nos Wilhelmus Barlow c. Mediantibus Literis Commissionalibus Reginae Commissionarii specialiter legitime deputati c. praedictam electionem Mathei Parker in Archiepiscopum Pastorem Ecclesiae praedictae suprema authoritate Regiâ nobis in hac parte Commissa Confirmamus Supplentes ex suprema authoritate Regiâ nobis delegata quicquid in nobis aut alique c ut supra That is In the name of the Lord Amen We William c. By the Queens Commissional Letters specially and lawfully deputed Commissioners c. do by the supreme authority of the Queen to us in this behalf committed Confirm the aforesaid Election of Mat. Parker c. supplying by the supreme authority of the Queen to us delegated if any thing be wanting in us or any of us c. as above And if as her Commissioners they Confirmed as her Commissioners also they Consecrated him For 1. The Patent Commissionates them to both alike and they needed her Commission to both alike Mandantes quatenus eundem Confirmare Consecrare velitis c. Commanding you that you Confirm and Consecrate him So if Mandantes did authorise them to the one it did so to the other also 2. The Patent did in formal words authorise them to dispense with themselves for any defect of Faculty c. for the performing of both those acts alike Supplentes suprema authoritate nostra Regia si quid ad praemissa perficienda deest c. And this Dispensation was necessary to the validity of both those acts alike 3. To signifie they did Consecrate him in vertue of the Queens Commission to them for it when three of them at the performing of that Ceremony presented him to the fourth to be Consecrated whereas afore the Statute of H. 8. the Popes Bull for authorising the Consecrators was used to be read at that time in place thereof was read the Queens Patent to them Proferebatur saith the Act of it upon Parkers Records Regium Mandatum pro ejus Consecratione The Queens Mandate or Commission to them for Consecrating of him was read as the authority for what they did The fifth and last Proposition The Queen had her Authority for Commissionating them from the Parliament This is manifest First from the Statute of 25. H. 8.20 which recites how that by an Act made that Parliament they had enacted That if any person nominated or presented by the King to the See of Rome to be any Archbishop of this Realm should be delayed denied or otherwise disturbed from the same for lack of Palls Bulls or other things to him requisite by the Law of the Land then in force to be obtained of the See of Rome that then he might and should be Consecrated and Invested by any two Bishops in this Realm appointed by the King Where although in the next words according and after like manner as divers Archbishops and Bishops have been heretofore in ancient time by sundry of the Kings Progenitors made Consecrated and Invested within this Realm they were willing to seem as if they did not then first grant that right or priviledge to the Crown but onely restore it yet it is manifest they did then grant it to him For as they named none so nor could they name any one King of England who made a Bishop within this Realm and much less the Primate of England the Archbishop of Canterbury Indeed William the Conquerour Rufus and Hen. 1. and perhaps some of our Kings afore them did without asking the Popes consent Invest Bishops in vacant Sees that is by the delivery of a Ring and Crosiar did put them in possession of their Bishopricks so as to injoy their Temporalties and to be legal Bishops in the Kings Courts But I know no instance of one Archbishop of Canterbury Invested by any one of them without the Popes consent nor did any of them use that practice of Investing Bishops after the Council of Vienna which was in