Selected quad for the lemma: england_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
england_n	bishop_n	church_n	presbyter_n	3,009	5	10.2861	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A61665	A letter to Mr. Robert Burscough, in answer to his Discourse of schism, in which ...	Stoddon, Samuel.	1700 (1700)	Wing S5713; ESTC R10151	63,414	120

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