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A68024 A parte of a register contayninge sundrie memorable matters, written by diuers godly and learned in our time, which stande for, and desire the reformation of our Church, in discipline and ceremonies, accordinge to the pure worde of God, and the lawe of our lande. Udall, John, 1560?-1592. Demonstration of the trueth of that discipline which Christe hath prescribed in his worde for the government of his Church, in all times and places, untill the ende of the worlde. 1593 (1593) STC 10400; ESTC S101665 62,546 88

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the Lorde But the former is true as the Historie teacheth vs Therefore must the latter needes be true also 4 That which giueth comfort vnto a man in the time of his troubles must haue a warrant out of Gods worde But euery lawfull calling giueth comfort vnto a man in the time of his troubles Therefore euerie lawfull calling hath a warrant out of Gods word 5 That which helpeth Gods people forward in godlines must haue a warrant out of Gods worde for God hath promised a blessing to his owne ordinance onlie But euery lawfull calling in the Church helpeth Gods people forwarde in godlines Therefore euerie lawfull calling hath a warrant out of Gods worde Therefore if Iohn did prooue his calling out of the Scriptures if euerie calling vnder the lawe was warranted out of the scriptures if Corath c. were punished for enterprising that which they had no warrant for out of the scriptures if comfort in troubles commeth onely from the scriptures and lastly if euery help to godlines is warranted in the scriptures then c. They confesse all these reasons to bee true but doe denie that the Archbish. lord Bish. c. bee distinct Ministers from others Whitgift pag. 303. which wee hold T. C. 2. booke pag. 438. and proue it thus 1 Those thinges that haue diuers efficient causes are diuers Our BB. and the Ministers of the worde haue diuers efficient causes for the one is the ordinance of God the other the constitution of humane pollicie as themselues doe confesse Therefore they are distinct Ministers from others 2 A diuers forme maketh diuers things the Ministers of the word and the Lord Bishops haue diuers formes for their ordination euen in the Church of England is diuers seeing one Lord Bishop may ordaine a Minister But there must be three to ordaine one of them therefore they are distinct Ministers 3 Members of one diuision are distinct one from another the L. Bishops and ordinarie ministers bee members of one diuision for vsually the Ministers bee diuided into the rulers and them that are to bee ruled therefore they are distinct Ministers 4 The things that haue diuers effects are diuers in them selues one from another the L.BB. and other Ministers haue diuers effects for the one effecteth rule and gouernment the other subiection and obedience Therefore they are diuers and distinct Ministers 5 They that be imployed about diuers thinges are diuers one from another The L.BB. and the ordinarie Ministers be imployed about diuers things for the one is exercised in generall view of many congregations and the other in the particular direction of one Therefore they bee distinct Ministers 6 That which is perpetuall and that which may be taken away by men are distinct one from another The office of the Minister is perpetuall Ephes. 4. 13. and the Bishops may be taken away as themselues doe confesse Therfore they are diuers and distinct Ministers Therfore if the Ministers of the worde and Lord BB. proceede from diuers causes if they haue their being by diuers formes if they be members of one diuision which in nature cannot bee one if they produce diuers effects if they bee exercised about diuers subiectes Lastly if the one bee perpetuall and the other but for a time then must it needes follow that they are diuers and distinct Ministers one from another The name of an Archbishop and also the office that he executeth is contrarie to the worde of God First the reasons that prooue it vnlawful to giue the name vnto any man in the church are these 1 No man may haue the name giuen him which is proper to our Sauiour Iesus Christe But the name of Archbishop is proper vnto our Sauiour Iesus Christe as appeareth in the places quoted therefore no man may haue the name of Archb. giuen vnto him 2 If the name of Pope be therefore odious because of that Antichriste who is intituled therewith then must also the name of Archbishop when it is ascribed vnto any mortall man for so much as it is the title of a speciall member of that kingdome of Antichrist But the former is true euen by their owne confession Whitgift pag. 300. Therefore must the latter be true also But they obiect diuers things against this for the proouing of the name Archb. to bee lawfully giuen vnto some men which together with their answeres doe brieflie followe 1 Obiection Clemens alloweth of those names as Polydor reporteth lib. 4. cap. 12. Answere Polydor is but the reporter and M. Iewel hath prooued euidently against Harding that Clemens is counterfeite and worthie of no credite Obiection Erasmus saith that Titus was an Archbishop Answere He spake as the times were wherein hee liued but that proueth not that he helde him one in deed no more then our naming of the Archbishop of Canterbury when wee speake of him proueth that wee like and allow his authoritie 3 Obiection Anacletus saith that Iames was the first Archbishop of Ierusalem Answere He is forged as our answeres to the Papists haue shewed but a witnes of better credite calleth him only a Bishop Euseb. lib. 2. cap. 23. and Simon bishop after him lib. 3. ca. 22. And Iraen saith lib. 4. ca. 63. that the Apostles ordained Bishops euerie where making no mention of Archbishop 4 Obiection The Councell of Nice Canon 6. mentioneth a Metropolitan Bishop Answere That proueth nothing for it was only as much as to say the Bishop of the chiefe citie Secondly the reasons that prooue the office of the Archbishop vnlawfull be these 1 Euerie Ministerie that is lawfull must be of God The office of the Archbishop is not of God for that he is not described in the worde and them selues confesse that hee is of humane pollicie Therefore the office of the Archbishop is vnlawfull 2 That Ministerie whose originall is vnknowen hath no warrant from Gods worde and consequently is vnlawfull The originall of the Archb. is vnknowne as they confesse Whitegift pag. 351. Therefore it is vnlawfull 3 That office which is needles in the church is also vnlawfull to bee exercised in the same The office of the Archbishop is needlesse for the Ministerie is perfect without it as the Apostle proueth Ephes. 4. 13. Therefore the office of an Archb. is vnlawfull 4 If all the gifts needfull for the prefecting of the church be appropriated vnto other Ministeries then is his Ministerie vnlawfull But all the needefull giftes are appropriated vnto Pastours Doctours Elders and Deacons whereof he is none Therefore his office is vnlawfull 5 That office is vnlawful which none may lawfully giue But none may lawfully bestowe the office of an Archbishop because none can giue any new gifts to adorne him withal Therefore his office is vnlawfull This reason beeing vsed of all founde diuines against the Pope is of the same value against the Archbishop 6 If the office of an Archbishop bee lawefull then it is either in respect of his
christian Magistrate 3 If the rule of Christe can not bee perpetnally obserued tell the Church vnles there be Elders then must there be such vnder a christian Magistrate But the former is true for by the Church is there meant the Senate of Ministers Elders as shalbe prooued in the chapter of Excommunication Therefore there must be Elders vnder a christian Magistrate 4 If the whole gouernement of the Church described in the Epistles to Timothie and Titus be to be obserued vntill the ende then must there bee Elders vnder christian Magistrates for they are contayned in those Epistles But the former is true 1. Tim. 6. 14. Therefore there must be Elders vnder a christian Magistrate 5 Where sinners are more outragious and the best most subiect to waxe colde there is greatest neede of all the helpes that God hath ordayned to punishe sinne and to cherish wel dooing But so it is vnder a christian Magistrate especially in the peace of the Church as Whitgift confesseth page 643. Therefore there is at the least as great neede of Elders seeing they are helpers appointed of God vnder a Christian Magistrate as at any other time Therefore if Ministers be lesse able nowe then in the Apostles time if christian Magistrates must mainteyne the order prescribed by Christ if els the rule of Christ Tel the church can not be still obserued if the whole gouernement described by S. Paule must be kept for euer lastlie if there bee at the least as great neede of all the helpers that can be as euer there was then must it needes followe that Elders are as necessarie in the Church vnder a christian Magistrate as in the time of persecution CHAP. 13. THere ought to be in euery congregation certaine Deacons endued with those qualities whiche the worde of God describeth whose office is onely in receyuing the liberalitie of the Saintes and distributing it vnto the needie T. C. 1. booke pag. 190. Disci Eccle. fol. 119. This assertion hath two braunches which both are gainsaide by our aduersaries the first whereof is this The office of the Deacon consisteth onely in receiuing and distributing vnto the poore the liberalitie of the Saintes whiche they denie Whitgift pag. 582. The booke of ordering c. that maketh it a degree of the ministerie but the proposition being prooued true maketh their opinion and practize appeare false which is thus 1 That wherein Steuen and the rest were imployed is the office of a Deacon for the first institution of them by the Apostles is in that example But they were onely to attende vpon the prouision for the poore Act. 6. 4. Therefore the office of the Deacon is onely to attende vpon the distributinge vnto the poore from the liberalitie of the Saintes 2 That whiche the Apostle maketh an ordinarie and distinct office from others in the Church must be attended vpon by them that are in the same office and not be mingled with any other But the Apostle Rom. 12. 8. maketh distributing in simplicitie such as office as it is expounded by M. Caluin Beza Bucer Martyr c. Therefore the Deacons office must be attended vpon and consequentlie it consisteth onelie in distributing c. 3 That which the Apostles founde them selues insufficient for that can no man nowe discharge in any tollerable measure for they were more adorned with giftes then anie be nowe But they founde them selues insufficient for the ministerie of the worde and distributing vnto the poore also Act. 6. 2. Therefore no man can in any tollerable measure discharge the office of a Minister and Deacon also and consequentlie the Deacon is to attende vpon distributing only 4 If the ministeries of the worde be perfect without the Deacon then may he not meddle in the same for howe may one lawfullie labour in that wherein there is no neede of him But such is the ministerie of the worde where the seuerall ministers thereof are named Ephes. 4. 11. wherein the Deacon is not contayned as Whitgift confesseth pag. 308. 309. Therefore the Deacon may not meddle with the ministerie of the worde and consequentlie must be imployed onlie in distributing c. 5 If there be no qualitie required in the perfect description of the Deacon which is proper to the ministerie of the worde then is not he to meddle with the same But the former is true as appeareth 1. Tim. 3. 8. Therefore the latter is true also and consequentlie he must attende onely vppon distributing c. 6 If it belong to the Deacons office to meddle with the ministerie of the worde and Sacramentes then is it greater then that of the Pastor for that the doing of both requireth greater giftes then the one But it is not a greater but inferiour office to the pastor as appeareth by all those places wherin they are described that the Deacon is described after the Bishop Therefore his office is not to meddle with both and consequentlie he must attende vpon distributing c. 7 Deacons are ministers of tables and not of holy things 8 In the ministers sicknes the Deacons shall reade the Homilies of the Fathers 9 The Deacons haue neede of great wisedome although the preaching of the worde be not committed vnto them further it is absurde that they should doe both the offices of preaching and caring for the poore consideringe that they be not able to doe both thorowly 10 Although the goodes of the Church increasing there were besides the Deacons subdeacons and archdeacons yet the Deacons remayned still in their charge for the poore and were not as yet mingled with the Bishops or priestes with the order of them which taught 11 The office of Deaconship was religiouslie kept in the Church vntill it was driuen out by Antichrist 12 This office must of necessitie be restored as it is described Act. 6. if England for he speaketh it in the behalfe of our Church will receyue the Discipline of Christ. 13 Speaking of these Deacons lamenteth that this order is so fallen out of the Church that the name doth scarce remayne 14 Describing the Deacons of the Apostles time sayeth that we after their example ought to haue the like 15 The office of distributing the goodes of the church is an ordinarie function in a church lawfully constituted the which sect 30. he calleth the Deaconship Therefore if Steuen and the rest were imployed onely in distributing the goodes of the church if the Apostle maketh the Deacons office an ordinarie and distinct office from all others in the church if the Apostles were not sufficient for the ministerie of the worde and distributing if the ministeries of the worde be perfect without the Deacon if in the description of the Deacon no quallitie be required that is proper to a minister of the worde if to deale in both would make the Deacon a greater officer then the Pastor if the Councels auncient writers and the sounde writers of latter times