and contained in the Scriptures that infants must bee baptized neither is it expressed and contained in the Scriptures that the bishop of Lichfield must have but one wife Yet because it is contained in the Scriptures that God in the beginning brought but one woman unto one man and gave to one woman but one husband I assure my selfe it will not be denyed but that the bishop must and doth content himselfe with one wife and that every Christian ought to bring their children to be baptized Besides if Master Bilson distinguisheth bishops in England from pastours in England and Archbishops in England and Pastors in England two severall orders and degrees of Ministers in the Church of England then I grant that it is neither expressed nor contained in the Scriptures that the people must choose their bishops in England And why but because the Scriptures having put no difference betweene bishops and pastours know no such bishops as we have in England And therefore bishops Bishops in England are only Bb. by the Kings grace and not by divine institution in England being bishops only by the Kings grace and not by divine institution and ordination as pastours in England be hence is it that the Kings of England by their prerogative Royall and not the people by the rule of Scriptures have chosen their bishops in England And for this cause also was it that K. Hen. 8. with advice of the Parliament did resume the nomination appointment investiture and confirmation of his Kingly bishops from the pope As for the nomination of pastours having cure of soules in parishes otherwise than all patrons by right of patronage doe give presentments their choise institution translation oâ— deprivation the Kings of England by their Pastours in parochiall Churches were never placed by the King as Bb. are in their Bishopricks regall power never yet hetherto tooke the same upon them And if the Kings of England by any fact or by any law did never take away the right interest and freedome from the people in choosing their pastours what right other than by usurpation can the bishops have to impose or thrust upon the people pastours without their liking But by custome and consent the people have restrained themselves Hereunto if it were not alreadie sufficiently answered that the people could not lawfully restraine themselves yet Master Bilson himselfe answereth That the late bishops of Rome never left cursing The people lost their consent by cursing and fighting of the Popes and fighting till they had excluded both prince and people and reduced the election wholly to the Clergie By cursing and fighting then have the people beene overruled and excluded and not by custome or consent have they restrained themselves Yea and by vertue of this cursed fight only doe the Bishops of England at this day exclude both Prince and people from medling in the choise of pastours For by authoritie of the canon law made by those late cursing and fighting Bishops of Rome the bishops of England have the sole ordination and placing of pastours over the people And from hence also it is plaine that the peoples right was not by their default or abuse relinquished and forfeited For then the late Bishops of Rome needed not to have cursed and fought for it And now whether it be not meet that the Lord Bishops professing themselves to be Christian bishops should still retaine in their hands and not restore unto Christian people the possession of their Christian equitie and freedome extoâ—ted from them by the cursings and fightings of antichristian Bishops I leave it to the consideration of the reverend bishops themselves Touching the mischiefes and inconveniences of schismes troubles strifes and contentions so often inculcated and so much urged and excepted against the election of the people there is no man able as I thinke to produce any one pregnant proofe out of any ancient or late historie that any king or Soveraigne power hath interposed any supreme authoritie to appease any discord or dissention ensuing or raised upon the bare choise made of any meere parochiall pastour by any faithfull and christian people The schismes strifes and factions that were raised in the old churches sprang out and slowed onely Schismes and contentions spring from schismaticall and proud clergie masters from the heads and fountaines of those schismes strifes and factions and namely from proud ambitious and hereticall bishops and great clergie masters For they being infected and poisoned with the contagion of schisme and heresie and having sowred the mindes of their Disciples with the leaven of their hereticall doctrines no marvaile if the people became followers of the evill manners of their teachers and no marvaile if they verified the proverbe Like master like man like Priest like people Eustatius Bishop of Antioch being a Sabellian heretike was deposed by the Councell of Antioch after whose deposition a fierie flame of sedition was kindled in Antioch Socr. 1. c. â—â— because one sort of the common people sought to translate Eusebius Pamphilus from Caesarea to Antioch some other would bring againe Eustatius Eusebius bishop of Nicomedia and Theognis bishop of Nice being both Arians with their confederates raised skirmishes and tumults against Athanasius after the death of Alexander bishop Socr. l. 2. c. 2 of Constantinople about the election of a bishop there was greater stirre than ever before time and the Church was more grievously turmoyled The people were devided into two parts the one egerly set with the heresie of Arius clave to Macedonius the other cleaved very constantly to the decrees of the Nieene Councell and choose Socr. l. 2. c. 4 Paulus to be their Bishop The cause of division among the Citizens of Emisa about the election of Eusebius Emisenus was for that he was charged with the studie of the Mathematickes and accused of Socr. l. 2. c. 6 the heresie of Sabellius After the death of Eusebius when the people of Constantinople had brought againe Paulus to be their bishop the Arians chose Macedonius The authors and chiefe doers in that stirre were certaine Arian bishops who before aided Eusebius that turned up side downe the whole state of the Church These Socr. l. c. 9 and sundry such like sturres discords factions and dissentions are found to have beene raised and pursued by schismaticall and hereticall bishops their favourites and followers in the old Churches but that these or the like mischieves and inconveniences can be proved to have fallen out by the election of Parochiall pastours in the old Churches we deny And why then should not the interest and freedome of faithfull and Christian people wrested from them by cursings and fightings of faithlesse and antichristian Popes be restored to them againe And the cause ceasing why should not the effect likewise cease And therefore we humbly intreat the Lords bishops that against the grounds of reason and nature against Christian equitie A â—equest to the â—everend
Scripture to be given them by God and therefore the King and Parliament may be pleased to abolish both them and their power as King Hen. 8. did abolish Monkes and Friars 26. 40. and 28 The challeng for Lordly primacy out of the great charter answered 28 The study of the civill Law and the professors of it may florish more than now they doe 28 Fees for probate of testaments let to farme 29 Fees dew for execution of functions of the Canon Law disproportionable for a Dâ—ctor of the Civill Law 30 An Act of Parliament for the advancement of the Civill Law is set downe and a forme laid for all proceedings in the Courts in which the Civill Lawyers should be Iudges 32 33 It will advance the honour of the King and the good of his subjects to have matters of tithes and testaments and matrimony reduced by act of Parliament to bee tried by the Iudges of the Common Law 37 Matters of tithes and other causes of light nature pertaine to civill justice 37 The temporall law may easily bee applyed to causes now reputed Ecclesiasticall 39 How legacies may be recovered at the Common Law 42 Matters of marriages more fit to bee decided by the Kings officers than by the Bishops 43 Much adâ—e in the Bishops Courts about Accipio and Accipiam 44 The common Law preferred by the Bishops above the Law of God and the civill Law 45 Causes of Adulteries Slander Heresie which by sufferance only have bin exempted from the Cognizance of the King may be arbitrated by the Iudges of the common Law 47 Hierarchy may be judged felony if it please the King 49 The cognizance of all crimes as well as of some by the Law of God belong to the King 50 No impeachment and impropriations in lay mens hands the stat of 15. Rich. 2. and the 4. Hen. 4. being observed for a Vicar endowes yet if it please the King Parliament a law may be made for reducing of impropriations which may bee done First by restitution Secondly by commutation Thirdly by redemption Fourthly by contribution 52 Parochiall Churches to what use they were founded 56 First restitution of many may and ought to be which are now accounted the temporall revenues of Archbishops and Bishops which were given to severall Churches are now spoyled of them by Archbishops and Bishops 55 56 57 58. Secondly commutations may be made of many of the Bishops lands given to superstitious uses for many impropriations in the Kings hand and the hands of many of the Nobility 56 58 59 Thirdly there may bee a redemption made of the same land or buying in of many impropriations by a common purse or treasury which will increase 1. When the people shall be discharged of the burden of Ecclesiasticall Courts 2. The treasure will increase by the dissolution of Chapels of ease and uniting two Parishes into one and especially in great Cities and Towns where often are but small Livings 61 Dissolution of Chapels no new thing Ibid. Chapels the Seminaries of hirelings 62 3. By sequestration of the Livings of non residents 4. By the forfeiture of penall Lawes due to the King 60 61 62 63 Sequestration of the Churches of pluralists may further the treasure for redemption of impropriations 63 By what contributions Impropriations may bee brought to the use of the ministery 63 Fourthly the fourth meanes viz by contribution wherby Impropriations may be reduced to the ministery 63 64 65 How and by what means impropriations may be reduced into the ministery 65 66 None of the three estates in Parliament is lost by removall of the Hierarchy as appeares by severall statutes viz. 25. E. 3. c. 24. 31. Ed. 3. Stat. of Herrings 3. R. 2. c. 3. 7. R. 2. c. 12. 1. E. c. 2. 68 69 70 71 72 73 The state of Prelacy founded by the Grandfather of K. E. 3. 69 The K. having the assent of the Nobles and Commons may repeale statutes without the assent of the Prelates 70 The argument answered in which it is said that it hath been alwayes dangerous to pick quarrels against laws setled 74 75 Lesse danger to reforme the Church by new lawes than to continue corruption by old lawes 74 That argument answered in which it is said that there must of necessity be in every Parish one Pastor a company of Seniors and Deacon or two at the least and all those to be found of the Parish 75 76 77 78 What kind of men ought to be chosen Seniors and Deacons 76 The judgment of the Commissioners of Ed. 6. touching Elders and Deacons 77 The election of Pastors by the people stands upon the ground of reason and nature rules of Christian equity and the law of God therefore by no Law or custome can justly be taken away though actually it was by the Pope 79 to 87 Dangerous to innovate unlesse there be evident utility in innovation 80 The common manner of election in the old Churches was by the people 81 The King without the people hath power to nominate the Kingly Bishop 82 M. Bilson confirmes the peoples election of their Pastor 83 A great difference betwixt the choice of Bishops in England and Pastors 86 No Schisme hapned by choice of Pastors by the people ancient schimes were ever from the election of Bishops 87 88 therefore a Stat. is desired for the giving of election of their Pastors 86 Election of publike officers in Cities and Boroughs is by the principall men of these places 90 91. therefore Ministers may bee elected the officers of Cities and Townes Corporate chosen without contention therefore Pastors may be also chosen 90 The people would be more carefull of their Election than Bishops have been the people could make no choice of insufficient Ministers unles the Bishops did make insufficient Ministers 93 94 The common people accused of backwardnesse in Religion the reason of that must needs be from their ill guides 95 Men of excellent gifts and men of no gifts are unequally matched in the ministery of the Gospell 96 The people may know a man to be a fit Minister though he be not brought up among them 98 What knowledge of a Minister is required in the people before they choose him No partiall suits can follow the election of Ministers by the people 100 The means to take away all symony for places in the Ministry 100 The inconveniences of Bishops ordination set downe 102 As many suits betweene the Bish and the Clerke 2. suits between the Clerke and the Archdeacon 3. suits betweene the B. and the Archdeacon 4. Riots and breaches of the Kings peace 5. unlawfull Fees for Letters of institution 6. unlawfull Fees for letters of sequestration 105. 7. Perjury by the Clerk and robbery by the Patron 8. Chopping of benefices and dispensations 106. A supplication to the Parliament to consider these inconveniences and likewise a briefe way is set downe of the redresse of them 107 Diverse things set down concerning ordination of Ministers
against us that we which urge the same holy law for the bringing in of the discipline by pastors and elders should notwithstanding contrary to the same law intend the leaving out or altering any one of the three estates But which of the three estates was it that he meant should bee left out I trow there is none of the state of prelacie so ill advised as to take upon him the proof of this position viz. That the Lords spiritual The state of the prelacie is not one of the three estates in parliament by themselves alone doe make one of the three estates or that the statutes of England to this day have stood by their authorities as by the authoritie of those who alone by themselvs are to be accompted one of the three estates For if that were so how much more then might the great Peeres Nobles and temporall Lords challenge to make by themselvs an other estate And without contradiction to this day the commons summoned by the kings writ have ever been reckoned a third estate Now then if statutes have hitherto stood by authoritie of the Lords spirituall as of the first estate by the authoritie of the Lords temporall as of the second estate and by authoritie of the commons as of the third estate I would gladly be resolved what accompt the Admonitor made of the Kings estate It had not beene liegnes nor loyaltie I am sure howsoever hee spake much of the Lords spiritualls dutie and fidelitie in the execution of our late Queenes lawes to have set her Royall person authoritie and state behind the lobbie at the Parliament doore Either the kings Royall person then as not comprised within the compasse and circumcription of the three estates by his meaning which had beene but a very bad meaning must be thought to have beene hitherto secluded from authorizing the statute lawes made in Parliament Or els it is a most cleare case that the Lords spirituall themselves alone do not make any one of the three estates And what matter then of more weight may it happily seeme to be to alter the authoritie of the Lords spirituall and to leave them out of the Parliament when as notwithstanding they being left out the statutes of England may remaine and continue by authoritie of the three estates And it were not amisse for the Lords spirituall to consider that the bodie and state of the weale publike both now is and ever hath beene a perfect entire and complete bodie and State without the bodie and state of Prelacie and that the King and Nobles and Commons of the Realme without Prelates Bishops or Clerkes doe make up all the members and parts of the bodie and of the state and may therefore ordaine promulg and execute all manner of lawes without any consent Anno 36. h. 8. fo 51. h Anno m. j. fo 93. â— approbation or authoritie yeelded unto the same by the Bishops spirituall or any of the Clergie And thus much our Divines Histories and Lawes do justifie Sir Iames Dier Lord chiefe Justice of the Common pleas in his reports telleth us that the state and bodie of a Parliament in England consisteth first of the King as of the head and chiefe part of the bodie secondly of the Lords as principall members and lastly of the Commons as inferiour members of that bodie By a statute of provisoes it appeareth That the holy Church of 25. Ed. 3. holy church founded in the state of prelacie by the King England was founded into the state of prelacie within the Realm of England by the grand father of King Edward the third and his progenitors and the Earles Barons and other Nobles of the Realme and their Ancestors for them to informe the people of the law of God and to make hospitalities and almes and other workes of charitie in These uses are changed to the keeping of great horses great troopes of idlers wiâ—h long haire and great chaines of gold 6 Eliz. c. 1. The King bound to do lawes made without assent of prelates to bee kept as lawes of the realmes the places where the Churches were founded From whence it followeth First that the Archbishops and Bishops only and alone doe not make of themselves any state of prelacie but that the whole holy Church of England was founded into a state of Prelacie Secondly it is plaine that the Kings of England before they and the Earles Barons and other Nobles and great men had founded the holy Church of England into a state of Prelacie ought and were bounden by the accord of their people in their Parliaments to reforme and correct whatsoever was offencive to the lawes and rights of the crowne and to make remedie and law in avoiding the mischiefes dammages oppressions and grievances of their people yea and that the Kings were bound by their oathes to doe the same lawes so made to bee kept as lawes of the Realm though that thorough sufferance and negligence any thing should at any time be attempted to the contrary For whereas before the statute of Caerlile the Bishop of Rome had usurped the Seignories of such possessions and benefices as whereof the Kings of the Realme Earles Barons and other Nobles as Lords and Avowes ought to have the custodie presentments and collations King Edward the first by assent of the Earles Barons and other Nobles and of all the communaltie at their instances and requests und without mention of any assent of the state of prelacie in the said Parliament holden at Caerlile ordained that the oppressions grievances and dammage sustained by the Bishop of Romes usurpation should not from thenceforth be suffered in any manner And forasmuch as the grievances and mischiefes mentioned in the said Act of Caerlile did afterward in the time of King Edward the third daily abound to greater dammage and destruction of the Realm more than ever before and that by procurement of Clerks and purchasers of grace from Rome 31 Ed. 5 sta of â—â—ering the said King Edward the third by assent and accord of all the great men and commons of this Realme and without mention of any assent of Prelates or Lords spirituall having regard of the said Act of Caerlile and to the causes conteyned in the same to the honour of God and profit of the Church of England and of all this Realme ordained and established that the free elections of Archbishops Bishops and all other dignities and benefices elective in England should hould from thenceforth in the manner as they were granted by the Kings progenitors and founded by the ancestors of other Lords And in divers other statutes made by King Edward the third it is said that our soveraigne Lord the King by the assent of the great men and all the Commons hath ordained remedie c. That it was accorded by our Soveraigne Lord the King the great men and all the commons 36 Ed. 3. c. 6 8 Ed. 3. 3. statute of provisours
of Yorke and Silby were there present In a booke intituled the burning of Pauls Church in London 1561. and in the fift question moved by a papist it is said that this manner of ministration of Sacraments set forth in the booke of Common prayers was never allowed nor agreed upon c. no not by the Clergie of England at the last Parliament but only it was agreed upon by the Laitie which had nothing a doe with spirituall matters or causes of religion Whereunto the reverend Father Master Pilkington Bishop of M. Pilkington Bishop of Durisme Duresme answering was there not saith he a disputation for Religion appointed by the Queenes Majestie wherein your Clergie was affraid to utter their foolishnesse in defending their superstition lest they had taken more shame in answering than they did in holding their peace I thinke the Vniversities with so many places of this Realme receiving religion and these other disputing for it may bee counted to be some part of the clergie of the Realme And so it was not received without consent of the Clergie But these were not of the Parliament What then But as Ioash Josaphat Ezechias and Iosias did not make a new Religion but restored that which was defaced and had long lyen buried so our Parliament did not set forth a new religion but restore that which was godly begun before the good K. Edward confirmed by the Parliament and Clergie then c. But nothing can bee concluded as a law by Parliament say they without consent of the Clergie there present But this having not their consent cannot be counted a law as they think I had rather saith M. Pilkington leave this to be answered by the Lawyers than otherwise Yet that the world may see that something may be said in it we grant him not this to be true that no law at all can be made without consent of Bishops Look your old statutes of Parliament when Bishops were highest afore Edward the third and ye shall read that they passed by consent of the Lords temporall and commons without any mention of the Lords spirituall which statutes many of them stand in strength at this day Then it may well be gathered that the consent of the Clergie was not alwayes so necessarie as they thinke it The Lawyers Judges and Justicers put in practice and execute these lawes therefore their doings may be a sufficient reason to lead the unlearned what opinion they have of this statutes For Religion except Justice Rastall first executing that and afterward running away may condemne the rest which I trust he may not I thinke they would not execute them except they had the strength and nature of lawes If they doe contrary to their knowledge and opinion they cannot be able to answer their doings but I think no wise men are of this opinion Only these corner creepers that dare not shew their face and would deceive the people go about to deface all good and godly order that displeases them In the dayes of K. Edward they had the like fond opinion that the king could not make lawes in his minoritie untill he came unto full age and to make the people to disobey their Prince Hitherto M. Pilkington L. Bishop of Durisme with whom the most worthy and learned M. Jewell late Bishop of M. Iewel B. of Salisburie Salisburie agreeth in every point The wise and learned faith hee could have told you that in the Parliaments of England matters have evermore used to passe not of necessitie by the speciall consent of the Archbishops and Bishops as if without them no statute might lawfully be enacted but only by the more part of voyces yea although the Archbishops and Bishops were never so earnestly bent against it And statutes so passing in Parliaments onely by the voyces of the Lords temporall without the consent and agreement of the Lords spirituall have neverthelesse beene alwayes confirmed and ratified by the Royall assent of the Prince and have beene enacted and published under the names of the Lords spirituall and temporall Reade saith hee the statutes of King Edward the first there shall ye find that in a Parliament holden at S. Edmundsbury the Archb. and Bishops were quite shut forth and yet the Parliament held on and good and profitable lawes were there enacted the departing or absence or malice of the Bishops spirituall notwithstanding In the Records thereof it is written thus Habito Rex cum suis Baronibus Parliamento Clero excluso statutum est The King keeping a Parliament with his Barons the Clergie that is to say the Archbishops and Bishops being shut forth it was enacted c. In provisione de matrona in the time of K. Edward the third whereas matter was moved of bastardie touching the legitimation of bastards borne before mariage the statute passed wholly with the Lords temporall whether the Lords spirituall would or no. and that contrary to the expresse decrees and canons of the Church of Rome And thus much the most reverend and godly Father M. Iewell Bishop of Salisbury Wherefore to conlude this point against the Admonitors position I dispute thus All those persons who by any necessitie are none of the three estates aâ—d by whose authorities the statutes of England to this day have not stood to leave out the same persons may happily seem a matter of lesse weight than all men do judge it But the Archbishops and Bishops are such persons as by nâ—cessitie are none of the three estates and by whose consents the statutes of England to this day have not stood Therefore to leave out the Archbishops and Bishops may happily seem a matter of lesse weight than all men doe judge it If our Evangelicall Bishops be of that opinion of which the Popish Bishops were viz. that the house of Parliament is an unfit and an unmeet place to have the holy cause of the religion of God debated and concluded upon and that the Laitie without the clergie ought not to conclude any thing in Religion and that in respect hereof their presences their voices and their assents are necessary in the â—arliament If our Evangelicall Prelates I say make this objection then besides that hereby they unseemely unmannerly and unchristianly accuse the whole land of ignorance and blindnesse in religion supposing neither King nor Nobles nor Commons to be able to discern betweene night and day besides this I say so shamefull an abuse of a whole Christian nation I would pray them to remember what the most reverend Fathers Master Pilkington and Master Iewell have answered to such cavillous slanders For what else intended they by many examples and proofes brought for the Parliaments of England consisting of the King the Nobles and the Commons to be lawfull Parliaments and to have right to establish religion but to justifie against Popish scoffers that religion might be conceived and established in Parliament notwithstanding the absence or exclusion of the Clergie Besides since our
Seniour or Deacon Therefore much lesse shall every Parish be burdened to find a company of Seniours c Where the Admonitor complaineth that many parishes are not Tolerable and intolerable Ministers able to finde one tolerable Minister we would gladly learne by what brand tolerable Ministers are knowne from intolerable Ministers according as the Lords spirituall judge or judge not of tolerable and untolerable Ministers For if all reading Ministers as needes with them they must bee or else why doe they tolerate them bee tolerable Ministers what a vaine and idle distinction hath hee coyned touching the scarcitie of maintenance for tolerable Ministers Considering all Ministers by intendment of law bee able to reade and considering also a very small maintenance is esteemed to bee a tolerable maintenance for reading Ministers For else why doe the great Bishops in their great Churches of Commendams and the rich Doctors in their rich Churches of non residencies make so small allowances to their reading and stipendarie Curates And where then is that parish in England that is not able to maintaine a tolerable Minister ADMONITION The next Argument that the people might not choose their Pastours Pag. 78. Elders and Deacons as is required is drawne partly from a feare that the same will be a matter of schisme discord and dâ—ssenâ—ion in many places partly from affection and want of right judgement of the people partly from the unrulinesse of the Parishes and partly from the broyle and trouble which may follow ASSERTION Vnto this objection if I should answer nothing at all but only should The objection of feare c. answered deny that any feare or any other inconvenience at all pretended in this place is to be feared to ensue my simple negation were more to be tolerated than his simple affirmation for by the canon Law non inficienti sed ponenti incumbit onus probandi And yet because Doct. in â—si cui de prebâ—â—â— the Lord hath spoken unto Iosua and in him unto us all that wee should not feare nor be discouraged to observe and to doe all that is written in the law for then sâ—ith the Lord shalt thou make thy way prosperous and then shalt thou have good successe therefore in the word of the Lord I say that none of all this feare broyle trouble or turmoyle is to be feared at all Nay that it is most assuredly and without all doubt to be hoped and looked for that he would so blesse the attempt of putting this order in execution as that the peoples approbation and allowance of their Ministers should be a matter of all peace quietnesse unitie concord good successe and prosperitie to the whole Church of God in England For what an heathenish incredulitie were it for us to reply upon the erroneous conceit of a timorous and suspicious fancy that feare and I wot not what unrulinesse and unquietnesse shall follow when wee receiving the lawes of peace from the Prince of peace have his most stable truth that his peace shall rest upon us and that all feare and evill successe shall cease and vanish away No busie headed body therefore shall be able to leade any man away to disquiet either Church or common wealth otherwise than as the Church in all ages by the malice of Satan and his instruments hath evermore beene disquieted if once the holy law of the Gospell touching this point were observed and put in ure And if it be feared that the choice to be made by the people of God and which is allowed unto them by the holy laws of God would prove to be a matter of schisme discord and dissention how much more reason have we to feare that the fiâ—e of schisme discord and dissention being blowen already should not breake out and fame among us if still one man alone be suffered to thrust upon the people of God not tolerable Ministers according to Gods heart but intolerable Ministers according to mans tradition The Admonitor hath insinuated unto us often in his Admonition that it is dangerous to innovate And so I say too unlesse there be evident â—â—de constitu prim L. 2. utilitie of innovation For saith the Emperour in rebus novis constituendis evidens esse utilitas debet ut ab eo jure recedatur quod diu aequum visum est But is it not as perillous yea sometimes much more perillous not to innovate for proof whereof it shall suffice to take witnesse of our owne times and of our owne experiences It seemed equall a long time and for many yeares that the Sacrifice of the Masse with all the pelf and trumperie thereof should not once be Dangerous to innovate unlesse ther be evident utilitiâ— of innovation spoken against But we all know that the abandoning thereof hath not yet brought any perillous subversion upon any nation that purely and soundly in place thereof hath embraced the holy sacrament of the Lords Supper It seemeth also to be equall for many ages past that the Bishop of Rome might have supreme and absolute power over all persons states and causes not onely in Rome Italy Spaine Germany and other forraigne kingdomes but also in England and Scotland But as yet to the view of all the world it hath not proved perillous for the King and Queene of England and Scotland to establish new laws for the alteration of that ancient abuse And why hath it not been dangerous so to do Why forsooth because there was evident utility in doing of it But how could an evident utilitie appeare before it was done How Forsooth because the holy law of God had warranted an alteration For faith having eyes to see the wisedome the power and the truth of God in his word discerned a far off that the institution of the Lords Supper was long before the sacrifice of the masse And therefore our Kings by abandoning poperie out of the Realme did not institute any new religion but onely they restored the old Now then if a same holy law of God do condemn the choice and thrusting of the pastour upon the people by one man alone and again it the same Law doe impugne the primacie of one pastour over all Pastours as well in a Diocesse or Province as in the whole West part of Christendome what danger can it be not to disfranchise the one sithence without any manner of danger we have abolished the other or what perill can it be not to countenance the sonnes sithence without perill we have discountenanced the father Especially seeing in this place of the admonition wee have a plaine confession that the common manner of election of Pastors Elders and Deacons in the old Churches was made by the people For if the examples of schism discord and contention did commonly appeare in the old Churches while that manner of election did continue then by his owne mouth Common manner of elections in the old churches was by the people that manner of election
most men contemned and that it will be of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of life ASSERTION But who taught him to father or to fasten this untruth upon us only then this might suffice for answer that hee did never yet heare any one of our part so much as call much lesse to cry for discipline No discipline by excommunication only called for Discipline by excommunication onely no more to bee suffered by excommunication only For wee say cleane otherwise viz that the Discipline of the Church ought not to be executed as now for the most part it is by excommunication only This manner of discipline therefore by excommunication only is one of the disorders in the Church used by the reverend Bishops and which wee so much desire to bee reformed And for this cause we intreat their Lordships to forbeare the practice of that which as it seemeth they would so faine have others to mislike But happily this was not the marke whereat the Admonitor shot for Bishoply and Archdeaconly excommunication being daily used it is like that he bent his bow and aimed at that excommunication only which is pastorall and Elderly Against which forme and manner of excommunication let be so that some learned men of this age have at large declared in their workes set forth to the world that the same will be of most men contemned and that it will be of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of The writings of som learned men not sufficient to condemâ—eâ— excommunication by pastours and Elders life let this I say be granted what of all this must the Church of England therefore dislike and reject the same God forbid The whole doctrine of Faith and Sacraments we know to bee of most men contemned and to be of small force to bring most men from superstitious and popish idolatrie And how then is it possible but that the sword of this doctrine should have as little entertainement amongst most men as the doctrine He that casteth away the kernell will much more despise the shale And hee that setteth light by the sword will set lesse by the scabberd It sufficeth then that the children of the Church in England striving to enter in at the narrow gate and embracing the doctrine of the Gospell it is sufficient I say that they submit and subject their necks unto the yoke of the Gospell for what have we to doe with them that are without Doth the law of England endight condemn and judge a Spaniard resiant in Spaine The Admonitor himselfe affirmeth at the time when our Saviour Christ said dic Ecclesiae that there were many presidents as it page 134 were and governours of the Church together with the chiefe Ministers page 135 The Bb. confesseth that the Minister and Elders did governe in the primitive Church of every congregation nay further hee saith thaâ— he will not deny that the Apostles afterward and the primitive Church did practise the same These some learned men then eâ—ther must shew and prove unto us the children of God in England that this forme of governing the Church and excommunicating by many presidents and go vernours together with the chiefe Minister of every congregation was given to the Churches in the time of Christ and his Apostles but only for that time and that therefore that form is now at an end and ceased or els it must be confirmed unto us that God hath in these dayes altered and changed his mind touching England and that hee hath by some new vision or revelation commanded the Reverend Bishops in these dayes to teach the Church of England that he will not have the same manner of Government used in the Church of England because it would be of most of his Children in England The opinion of some Learned men not sufficient for the Church of England to depart from the word contemned and of small force to bring to effect any good amendment of life in them for albeit all the Learned men in the world had declared as much in their workes set forth to the world as is here spoken of what were that to the children of God in England unlesse the same Learned men had taught unto us true learning from the mouth of God How much lesse are we bound to regard what only some Learned men of this age have declared unto us the same some Learned men having no warrant out of the holy Booke of God for such their Learning For if the declaration of some Learned men of this age in their workes set forth to the world may be a sufficient warrant to draw men from the way of truth then hardly let the declaration of Doctor Harding against the true use of the Lords Supper and then let the declaration of Osorius against justification by faith and the declarations of Bellarmine against diverse Articles of our Religion and the declaration of Doctor Allen against the execution of Justice in England and the declaration of Doctor Saunders a rebellious fugitive in the defence of the Popes Bull and the declaration of G. T. for the pretended Catholikes and lastly let the declaration of the Pope and his whole Clergy excommunicating our late Soveraigne Lady the Queen deceased bee received and listned unto For who can deny but that these men were some men and that these some men were also some learned men and who then seeth not the loosenesse the vanity the trifling and the toying of this argument The Argument following which the Admonitor would seeme Page 81. to let passe drawne from experience is of like quality For though experience as hee saith teach that men of stubbornnesse will not By excommunication of Pastors and Elders moe can not bee out of communion than in communion shun the company of such as bee excommunicated and though such men of stubbornnesse must be also as he saith excommunicated for keeping of company with them yet to affirme that by meanes of Pastourly and Elderly excommunication moe will bee excommunicated as being men of stubbornesse than in communion is a very grosse and palpable errour For we hold as the truth is that the greater part of the Church cannot be excommunicated by the lesser nor that many should be excommunicated by a few nor that a few should bee excommunicated by one of the Church And if the common union must necessarily consist of all or of the most part of the faithfull then is the lesser part alwayes out of this common union For what else is excommunication but extra communionem ejectio a casting forth of one or of moe persons from the common fellowship society and company of the faithfull The greatest part whereof and not the least are accompted to be the Church and to be in communion unlesse then the whole Church or the greater part of the Church having once cast out from among them one or moe adulterers blasphemers extortioners or such like
Bishop then having these two severall and distinct offices imposed upon his person the one by divine the other by humane Law the one humane and Episcopall the other without pomp and pastorall there ariseth from thence this question by which of those two functions hee may lawfully I meane according to Gods Law minister the Doctrine Sacraments and censures of Christ If it bee answered that it is lawfull for him by vertue of his Pastorall office to minister the doctrine and Sacraments and by force of his humane Episcopall office to minister the censures of Christ then is not the answer fitted to the question the same being made à bene conjunctis ad male divisa For the censures of Christ as well as the doctrine of Christ being simply of divine ordinance it must follow if his Episcopall power be onely of humane right and pastorall power be onely of divine institution that the censures may bee ministred by authority derived onely from man but the doctrine and Sacraments by power derived onely from God Which commixion of divine and humane right in the execution of the ordinances of God can no manner of wayes be sound pure and sincere and therefore also can not be pleasing unto God For no more can the censures of Christ to the pleasure of God be lawfully administred by the authoritie of any one whose function is of man and not of God than could the sacrifice of God bee offered by one who was a priest of man and not of God Now that humane Episcopality or Bâ—shoppisme in the Church of England is authorized and deduced from Lordly Episcopality authorized only by the Law of the Realme the power and Law of man viz. of the King and Realme alone is evident as well by the donation and endowment of the Bishoprickes founded by the Kingly Prerogatives of the Kings of this Realme as by the erection and establishment of the new Bishopricks of Chester Gloucester Bristoll Peter borough and Oxford with their Cathedrall Churches Seas Cities meeres and bounds of those humane Bishops for the exercise of their Episcopall administration according to act of Parliament authorizing the Kings Highnesse to make Bishops by His Letters Patents Nay further that humane Episcopall Note that King Henry the eight by letters Patents made Bish therefore c. 31. H. 8. c. 9 jurisdiction within the meres and bounds of every Diocesse within England is meerely of humane and not of divine institution appeareth by that power and authority which the King hath in translating and dissolving of Bishopricks in conserving Episcopall jurisdiction sometimes to such persons as be no Bishops as did William the Conqueror when hee gave Episcopall power to the Abbot of Battaile and lastly by the very manner and forme of the nomination licence of Election and authority of investiture confirmation and consecration of Archbishops and Bishops established by the more positive Law of the Realme But if it bee answered 25. H. 8. c. 20 that the Bishop by his humane Episcopall power doth minister the Doctrine Sacraments and discipline of Christ then is the case worse with him than it was before because then not onely the Discipline of Christ but also the doctrine and Sacraments of Christ should bee ministred by that authority which is of humane institution Besides the answer should be untrue because the Bishop at the time of his consecration doth not receive any authority to preach the Word and minister the Sacraments for that authority was then committed unto him when first he was ordained to be a Presbyter But the authority which hee receiveth at the time of his consecration is to correct and punish such as bee unquiet disobedient and criminous within his Diocesse Whereby once againe is that confirmed which was erst said viz. That Episcopall power in England is not of divine but of humane institution Especially for that by the Scriptures it can not be proved that there bee two severall and distinct formes of ordinations the one called consecration proper to a Lord Bishop for the exercise of Discipline the other called ordination peculiar to a Pastor or teaching Elder for the ministration of the Word and Sacraments Whereunto lastly may bee added another maine reason that Episcopall power in If the Lord Bish have power to minister disâ—ipline by divine right then no more can he commit that his power to an other than he can commit the power which hee hath of preaching to another England to minister the Discipline can not therefore bee of divine institution because if it were of divine institution the Bishop could no more surrogate the same his Episcopall power to his Suffragane to his Vicar generall or Rouland Allen to minister the censures of Christ in his owne name than hee can depute them or any of them to minister the doctrine and Sacraments in his own name But how doth it appeare that the Vicar generall Rowland Allen or any other Presbyter did ever excommunicate by the power or in the name of the Bishop For the proofe hereof we shall not need to search any other authenticall record then the precept and the practice before intreated of For it is not said in the precept that the Presbyter being armed with authority from Christ but it is said that the Presbyter being armed with authority from the Bishop or Archdeacon shall denounce the sentence of excommunication the practice also of Doctor Hone every way confirmeth as much For therein Doctor Hone doth not challenge to be an Officer unto Christ but he saith that he is the officiall of the venerable Archdeacon of Surrey and that Master Rowland Allen Presbyter by vertue of his office doth excommunicate the parties who obeyed not his mandates who made not their appearances before him c. If it be answered that Rowland Allen though he be not an immediate officer from Christ that yet neverthelesse he is a mediate officer depuâ—ed to his office by an immediate officer unto Christ viz. the Lord Bishop or Archdeacon then wee reply and say First that the Lord Bishop and Archdeacon be neither immediate or mediâ—te Officers appointed by Christ to bee ministers of his discipline Secondly if they were immediate officers from Christ that yet they have no authority by the Law of Christ to transfer their right or any part thereof to an other person in their name or by their authoritie to excommunicate As for these words viz. In Dei nomine Amen nos Iohannes Hone or nos Roulandus Allen c. sometimes used in their scedule of excommunication it is but a prophaning of the holy name of God whereby they make themselves guilty of the taking of the glorious name of God in vaine And thus much touching both the question and answer whether the discipline of Christ may be ministred by the Bishops humane Episcopall power yea or no. But now on the other side because no divine censure can lawfully be executed in the Church by that authority
nor only the probate of Wills and granting of administrations but also the cognisance of Ecclesiasticall crimes with power to use the Ecclesiasticall censures Yea and this authority of the execution of Ecclesiasticall censures have those Deanes either long since by some papall priviledges obtained or else by long use prescribed against the Bishops Whereby againe it is cleerely convinced that Episcopall excommunication used in the Church of England is not of divine Institution but only by by humane tradition For were it of divine right then could the same no more bee prescribed or by papall immunity bee possessed than could these Deanes prescribe power or be enfranchised to preach the word or to administer the Sacraments These things have we thus at large and more fully intreaâ—ed of to the end that the Kings Highnesse and His Parliament and all sorts of people might well understand how it is not altogether an unusuall and unaccustomed thing in the Church of England that private and inferiour ministers as they call them in their owne right and in their owne parochiall Parishes without any authority from the Bishop should exercise even the highest censure of the Church And that in sundry places of the Realme there is no preeminence in the matter of the execution of the censures attributed to a Bishop above a Minister Nay which is more than is attributed to a Bishop No more prcheminence given to a B than to a Minister or to a lay man in some places for the use of excommunication above a Lay man yea than to such a lay man who is authorized onely by a lay man to his office Which is evident by Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction and censures exercised a long time by Lay men in the peculiar jurisdictions of Newton Gronbie Anstie Soke of Rothely Evington and other parishes and Hamlectes in the Countie Leycester The Officers of all which places for their spirituall authority having not had any other warrant than such only as hath beene signed sometimes under the hand and seale of the right Honourable the Earle of Huntingdon deceased sometimes of the Honourable Sir Henry Grey Knight sometimes of Henry Skipwith Esquire and sometimes of others For the avoyding therefore of sundry intolerable inconveniences which hetherto hath ensued for want of that authority which the Law setled doth enable every Minister with It is most expedient that all humane authority in the execution of spirituall censures bee utterly taken away and that the divine and Evangelicall censures of Christ bee ministred in every Congregation where learned and godly Pastors with discreet Elders may bee had as from the minde of the Lord they were executed in the Apostolicall and Primitive Church I had almost forgotten to speake of one common and usuall kinde of jurisdiction spirituall in the use of the censures of the Church by the Archbishops which in cases of their Prerogative they have prescribed against the Bishops over the Presbyters and people of every Bishops Diocesse and Archdeacons jurisdiction within their provinces of one other common and usuall kinde of pretensed spirituall jurisdiction and use of the censures which the Archbishop and sometimes the Deane and Chapter sede Archiepiscopali or sede Episcopali vacante exercise and lastly of that spirituall kinde of jurisdiction and censures so called of the Church which Suffraganes and Archdeacons have and doe use As touching which supposed spirituall power both of the Archbishops and Archdeacons because the same their power doth not only belong unto them jure consuetudinario non scripto by unwritten and not by written Law I must conclude against the jurisdiction of the Archbishops Prerogative and against the Archdeacons jurisdiction in all cases as out of St. Cprian King Henry the eighâ— concluded against the Pope viz That their authorities can not bee from Christ Because Christ said ego sum via veritas vita He never said ego sum consuetudo Touching the jurisdiction of the Deane and Chapter the papall Law being abrogated how the same may lawfully now bee used otherwise than by sufferance and consent of the King and Realme I know not But of all spirituall authority exercised at this day in the Church of England the same seemeth to draw most neare to the semblance of the government practised by the Apostles and Primitive Church And might be approved in many points if so be the Deane â—nd Chapter being as it were a Senate of preaching Elders did no more commit the execution of their Ecclesiasticall juridiction to the wisdome of one Vicar generall or principall officiall than they doe put over the leassing of their Lands or dividents of their rents to the only discretion of one of their Bayliffes or Stewardes As for Bishops Suffraganes in England and in Wales how many there may be and what Cities and Townes are to be taken and accepted for their Seas it is at large expressed in a statute made for the nomination of Suffraganes By which statute also wee are given to understand that it remaineth onely in the disposition and liberty of every Archbiâ—hop and Bishop within this Realme c. to name and elect two honest and discreete spirituall persons being learned and of good conversation and them to present unto the King by their writing under their Seales making humble request to give to one such of the said two persons as shall please His Majesty such title name stile and dignity of Bishop of such Seas specified in the said act as the Kings Highnesse shall thinke most convenient for the same so it bee within the same Province whereof the Bishop that doth name him is Besides after such title stile and name given by the King it is said that the King shall preseâ—t every such person by his Letters Patents under his great Seale to the Archbishop of the same Province wherein the Towne whereof he hath his title name stile and dignity of Bishop and that the Archbishop shall give him all such consecrations benedictions and ceremonies as to the degree and office of a Bishops Suffragane shall be requinte It is further enacted and provided that every person nominated elected presented and consecrated according to that act shall be taken accepted and reputed in al degrees and places according to the stile title name and dignity that he shall be presented unto and have such capacity power and authority honour preeminence and reputation in as large and ample manner in and concerning the execution of such Commission as by any of the said Archbishops or Bishops within their Diocesse shall bee given unto the said Suffragane as to Suffraganes of this Realme heretofore hath beene used and accustomed And that no Suffragane made and consecrated by vertue of this act shall take or receive any manner of profits of the places and Seas whereof they shall be named nor use have or execute any jurisdiction or Episcopall power or authority within their said Seâ—s c. but onely such profits jurisdiction and authority as shall
be licensed and limited unto them to take doe and execute by any Archbishop or Bishop within their Diocesse to whom they shall be Suffraganes under their seales And that no such Suffragane shall use any jurisdiction ordinary or Episcopall power otherwise nor longer time than shall bee limited by such Commission to him given upon paine c. From which Act touching the use and exercise of Episcopall power and censures by the Suffragane wee may againe safely conclude that the EPISCOPALL power granted by the Bishops to be used by the Suffragane is not of divine right and institution but onely from humane device and ordinance For the Suffragan could not exercise any power called spirituall or Episcopall unlesse by the Bishop hee were nominated by the King elected and presented by the Archbishop consecrated and by commission under the Bishops seale authorized in what manner and for what time he should exercise the same Custom then being not from heaven but from the earth and again the Bishops Commission limiting the Suffraganes delegated power being of man and not of God it followeth necessarily that that Episcopall power which the Bishops use and exercise in England can not be divine but humane Because Episcopall authority which is divine being conveyed from the Royall and Soveraigne authority of our Saviour Christ the giver of all power unto every officer within his Ceurch cannot bee transferred to any other person by the same Bishop by the King by the body of the state or by custome For the Kings Person and body of the state nor being made capable by the holy Scriptures to use and exercise that Episcopall power which is of divine Institution can never transferre the same to others whereof they bee themselves uncapable And to defend that custome or any municipall Law should transfer divine Episcopall power from a divine B. to any human officer is more erroneous And from hence if the now L. Bish of London judge his Episcopall power to belong unto him by divine and that by the same right he have power as well to ordaine depose suspend and excommunicate Presbyters as to confirme boyes girles young men and maidens there seemeth to bee good reason that the same B. should make it apparently knowne unto the King and Realme by what power or commission descended from heaven hee may delegate under his Seale the same his divine authority of ordination deposition suspension excommunication and confirmation unto Doctor Sterne his now Suffragane of Colchester For if from the holy Scriptures hee can produce no warrant for the making of a delegation of any part of that Episcopall power which hee holdeth to bee committed unto him from our Saviour Christ then well may we conclude against the oâ—dination deposition suspension excommunication and confirmation made by the same his Suffragame that the same his Suffraganes ordination deposition c. is not divine For how can an ordination a deposition c. made by a Suffragane be divine when as the Commission granted by the Bishop is meerely humane Wherefore seeing the Bishop himselfe hath plucked certaine of his principall feathers from his own spirituall wings if so be his own wings may be spirituall and imped them with an untwysted thread of humane policy to the humane trayne of his Suffragane and seeing also his Archbishops grace of Canterbury in cases of his metropoliticall prerogative the Archdeacons London Midlesex Essex Hertford the Deane of Pauls and certaine Prebendaries in Pauls the Deane of Westminster the Master of the Savoy and diverse other Persons have by Papall priviledges or by ancient custome prescribed almost all other parts of his Episcopall power there seemeth good reason that the Bishop should againe declare whether the Churches within the said Diocesse after the decease or translation of his Lordship shall stand in need of any Lordly Successor to sit in the same Sea for any other profitable use or purpose than only for wearing of a white rochet walking with a pastorall staffe keeping seven yeares Sabboth from preaching in his Parish Church at Fulham consecrating of Chappels hallowing of Fontes Christening as they call it of Belles whiting of Walles painting of Tombes garnishing of Sepulchers preserving of superstitious Monuments in glasse Windowes repairing and gilding rotten and outworne Crosses confirming Leases of Benefices with cure of soules upon small rents improprying Churches or such like For if the great things of the Episcopall power may bee transferred either by expresse or by secret consent either by commission or custome and that as well to an inferiour as to a superior as well to a Suffragrane a Deane an Archdeacon and a Prebendary as to an Archb. then it seemeth reasonable that the smaller things before spoken of may well be performed without any Lordly authority When I had thus finished according to our line that which I first undertooke against the Admonitors pre ensed dangerous alterations innovations and inconveniences and was also purposed to have added that which in mine opinion seemeth to prove that which the Admonitor by his opinion denyeth viz. that the externall government of the Church should alwayes and in all places be one when I say I had thus purposed by reason of some other present and for the time more necessary occasion I was driven to alter my minde and to shew the same in a place somewhat more convenient And yet in the meane while it shall not be amisse but a thing very necessary in this place so to cleare the state of the question betweene the Admonitor and me as the same being rightly before hand understood there might no prejudicate opinion be conceived against the truth The Admonitor against the not having one forme of externall policy in all ages and states of the Chutch of Christ alleadgeth that in Denmarke they have Bishops both in name and in office that in Saxony thâ—y have Arcbishops and Bishops iâ— office but not in name that in Tigure they have no Senate of Elders nor the discipline by excommunication which they more mislike that in Geneva in Scotland and in other places they have a government not much unlike that platforme which is desired to be among us that in Saxony and Basil they kneele at the Lords Supper all Tigure they sit and it is brought unto them and that in other places they goe and receive it for the more expedition as they passe And that he doubteth not but that the learned men whom God sent to instruct those Churches in which the Gospell in those dayes was first received have bin directed by the spirit of God to retaine this liberty that in externall government and other outward orders they might choose such as they thought in wisdome and godlinesse to be most convenient for the state of their Countrey and disposition of the people Vnto all which wee answer briefly viz. that Bishops both in name and in office being of divine institution ought as well to be in the Church of England as of Denmarke
that it is an errour by their leave in the Church of Saxony not to have Arch. and Bb. in name if so be they hold it lawfull to have Archb. and Bishops in office For what should a necessary officer doe without a convenient name And touching the Church of Tigure it is not materiall what the same Church doth thinke not tolerable or doth more mislike but what she ought not to mislike or what it ought not to think tolerable And then what a poore proofe is there here made trow we for the confirmation of the corruptions in the Church of England by producing of two witnesses two errours in the Church of Tygure For not to like a Senate of Elders and more to mislike excommunication is more and more to slide out of the right way And sithence we have the whole Christian Kingdome of Scotland the most famous and renowned Church of Geneva and sundry Churches by his confession in other places to be lights unto us and to agree with us in a government not much unlike to that which we desire wee have not onely great cause to rejoyce in this our desires but also to be much comforted and encouraged by these examples by all holy meanes to labour the full accomplishment thereof For by this testimony and by these instances given and produced by himselfe the Admonitor hath quite and cleane weakened and disabled his owne generall position opinion and thoughts of the unnecessaries and inconvenientnesse of having the Apostolicall and Primitive government in the time of Peace under a Christian Magistrate For hath not the free Kingdome of Scotland the free Citie of Geneva and other Soveraigne and free Princes Potentates and powers not being under Tyrants and persecution received the same as being the best the fittest the convenientest and most necessary government yea even in the time of peace and under their Christian Magistracy for the state of their Countrye and disposition of their people And as touching rites and ceremonies we affirme not that every rite ceremony or circumstance to be used in the externall execution of Church governement is precisely set downe in the holy Scriptures but touching the substance of government thus we say and thus we hold viz. that the Officers and Governours appointed by our Saviour Christ to be over the Churches in every Countrey observing the generall rules of decency comelinesse and edification have liberty with the consent of their Christian King or other supreame Magistrate to choose what rites and ceremonies they in wisdome and godlinesse shall thinke most convenient And therefore we grant that the officers of Christ in the use and dispensation of their functions are no more exactly tyed by any direct commandement in the holy Scriptures to use at all times and in all places one only manner of rites and ceremonies than were the Priests of the Law to use all one manner of knives to kill their sacrifices or the siâ—gers to sing all songs after one manner of tune or upon one kind of instrument or then are Kings and Princes in all Countries commanded to use all kind of circumstances in the outward execution of civill justice in their Common-Weales As then as it was lawfull for the Priests to have knives and trumpets of diverse fashions and for the Levites to have their Musicall instruments of diverse formes Nay as sundry Justices of Peace in sundry Shires of the Kingdome are not bound to keep their quarter Sessions all in one day to begin and to breake their Sessions at one instant to stand to sit and to walke whensoever they speake to weare all one fashion hats caps cloakes or gownes and such like so likewise is it with the Bishops Pastors and Elders of the Church In the ministration of Baptisme there is no direct commandement that the vessell to hold the water for the Childes Baptisme should bee of stone of pewter of brasse or of silver whether the Minister should descend to the lower end or the child ascend to the upper end of the Church Whether the child should have a great handfull or a little sponefull of water powred upon his head In the celebration of the Lords Supper it is directly commanded that the people shall stand fit or passe whether it should be celebrated every first or second Sabboth of the moneth whether in the morning at noone or at night In the ordination of Ministers there is no just proofe to be made that any certaine number of Ministers are to lay on their hands that the day of ordination should bee alwayes one that the Minister should bee of such an age or that the prayers should be of this or that length and forme of words And therefore touching these and such like things of indifferency wee agree with the Admonitor and Reverend Bishop that one ferme of externall orders rites and ceremonies is not of necessity to bee in every Church because there is no such order witnessed by the holy Scriptures to be of necessity But touching the joynt and severall functions of Bishops Pastours and Elders that they or any of them should in any age or state of the Church of Christ bee wanting or that such offices as by warrant of the Scripture are coupled together should bee appointed to execute any functions in the Church then such persons onely as for their functions have warant from the holy Scriptures wee cannot in any sort thereunto agree And why forsooth because all both offices and Officers in the Church must only and alonely bee derived from our Saviour Christ as from the only fountaine and bestower of all officers and offices in the House of God And therefore albeit wee should grant as the Admonitor hath said that the outward order used in the Primitive Church touching rites and Ceremonies by Bishops Pastors and Elders is neither necessary nor so convenient as it may be otherwise in the time of peace and under a Christian Magistrate yet we may not hereupon imply as his negative implyeth viz. that Bishops Pastors and Elders or any of them are neither necessary nor so convenient officers or governours as other officers of mans invention might be For which our opinion by the help of God we shall assay as before hath beene mentioned in an other place to lay downe out of the Word of God some just proofes according to the Admonitors request that there ought to be in all ages and states of the Church this outward order and forme of government viz. that Bishops Pastors and Elders ought evermore to be spirituall governours and that evermore they and none other ought to use that essentiall kinde of spirituall government and none other which was practised by the Bishops Pastors and Elders in the Apostolicall and Primitive Church Alwayes leaving the outward rites and ceremonies of their spirituall kinde of governement to bee indifferent as erst hath beene said FINIS Speeches used in the Parliament by Sir Francis Knoles and written to my LORD Treasurer Sir William
AN ASSERTION FOR True and Christian CHURCH-POLICIE Wherein Certain Politike Objections made against the planting of PASTOURS and Elders in every Congregation are sufficiently ANSWERED And Wherein also sundry projects are set downe how the Discipline by Pastors and Elders may be planted without any derogation to the Kings Royall Prerogative any indignity to the three Estates in Parliament or any greater alteration of the laudable Lawes Statutes or Customes of the Realme than may well bee made without damage to the people IN DOMINO CONFIDO London Printed 1642. To the Right Honourable the LORDS and COMMONS Assembled in High COURT of Parliament Right HONOURABLE c. THe Ensuing Treatise which I am bold to present to Your wisedomes view containes principall politicall reasons grounded upon the Lawes of this Kingdom for the removing of the present Hierarchie and planting of a Governement by Pastors and Elders The appellation of Lay Elders hath beene very displeasing to many whereas the Elder intended to be planted is not lay but in regard of the service wherein hee is to bee imployed Ecclesiasticall The Author was an elaborate Student in the civill Law and a professor of it He was esteemed learned by the best of that profession as also by Divines and common Lawyers learned Sir Edward Cook late Chiefe Justice of the Kings Bench Sir Christopher Yelverton late Judge of the Common Pleas Sir Henry Finch late the Kings Serjeant at Law and others have given testimony of him The Treatise is an answer to diverse passages in a Book written by D. Whitgift late Archb. of Canterbury intituled An admonition to the Parliament The Author as I doubt not but will appeare to your Wisedomes hath written with the spirit of meekenesse and humility submitting all to the judgement of an High Court of Parliament hee disputes with the Great Bishop in a Scholasticall way without one syllable of reviling or bitter language which he ever detested Hee discovers the foundation of the Hierarchie to be totally illegall and to bee abolished by the abolition of the Papall Canon Law which appeares to be abolished by the statute of 25. of Henry 8. cap. 9. The truth whereof being discovered by the Authors means to the said learned Judge Sir Edward Cooke hee did most ingenuously acknowledge and did avow he never understood the statute so well before yet affirmed he thought he had read the said statute an hundred times May it please you in your wisedomes to commend the Treatise to bee viewed by the learned Gent. of the long Robe whose awfull judgments I shall ever honour Most true it is I dare averre there is little written in this Kingdome tending to the removall of the Episcopacie from Legall and Politicall arguments but the Author hath the arrowes in his quiver I say not that others have borrowed light from his Candle Right Honourable and Right worthy I shall humbly take further boldnes humbly presuming upon your Honourable favours if this poore model find acceptance in your sight to present you with a new impression of an abstract written in time of famous Queene Elizabeth a Book well knowne to learned King Iames by the same Author whose memory I am bound by nature to Honour Give mee leave onely now to make knowne unto you the Title and severall Treatises contained in it It is intituled An abstract of certaine Laws Canons and Constitutions Synodall and Provinciall in force within the Queenes dominions and for the most part unknowne to the subject It containeth these principall Treatises 1. That a learned Ministery is commanded by Law 2. That Pluralities are forbidden by Law 3. That it is unlawfull to make a Minister without a title 4. That it is unlawfull for a Clerk to have civill authority This abstract was seemingly answered by the rayling stile of a then Doctor Cozens but by a further incounter and the counterpoyson yet extant written by the same Author he departed the Field with Honour such was the opinion of many learned among others of the foresaid Reverend Judge Sir Henry Yelverton This treatise was never questioned nor quarreld for ought I ever heard Yet was the Author well knowne to many of the Bishops You may happily in your Wisdomes conceive some things might have beene omitted as not wholly incident to the time and some abbreviated in regard of the shortnesse of your time and of the high affaires now in hand But may it please you being about so to doe I found the light must have bin much Eclipsed and the truth obscured I am over bold most humbly to commend the defence of what he writes grounded upon the laws of the Kingdome to your most Honourable protection It shall be enough for me to attend among the meanest of your servants having heretofore had the happinesse to have bin a member though unworthy of the Honourable House of Commons Presenting your honours and your grave wisdomes with my heartiest prayers and humblest service In most humble manner I intreate your pardon of and for The Contents THe defenders of the Hierarchy confesse their government is not apostolicall pag. 2. The bringing in of the discipline desired causeth no alteration of temporall laws nor the officers of a kingdom 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 No feare that prophane men will overthrow the Gospell if the forme of Church government be altered 10. The description of lukewarme professors that will be of that religion the King will be of 11. The Puritan protestants can never overthrow the Gospell 13. Neither can the Papist because he is overthrown by the Gospel 13 The planting of an Apostolicall government will draw no alteration of the Lawes of the Realme 14. The whole Papal Law is totally abolished by the statute of the 25 of Henry 8. c. 19. of the submission of the Clergie as appeares by the body of the statute and the proviso from the 15. to the 20. Canon and civill Lawes no part of the Lawes of the Realme but by sufferance 15 An imbasement for Civillians to have preferment by the offices of the Canon Law that ought not to be used 17 18 19. Whence it followeth that the papall Canon Law being abolished the papall offices and functions of Archbishops and Bishops are also abolished being grounded upon the same Law 20 Power properly and improperly called spirituall 20 21 Bishops remaine ordinary by custome provinciall Canons and statute Law though papall lawes be abolished 21 The King though Supreame governour of the Church cannot give Archbishops and Bishops spirituall power properly called spirituall that power must be derived from the Scripture 20. The Bishops did use a plenary power devised and promulged new Canons without the Queenes assent 23 All the Bishops together can make no new Law and yet every Bishop doth make many lawes 24 All temporall officers do draw their power from the King one way or other 25 The Charter of England confirmeth not the power of Archbishops or Bishops because their power appeares not by the
was common and did continue in the old Churches Besides this inconvenience saith he caused Princes and Bishops so much to intermeddle in this matter Frow whence it necessarily againe followeth that by the holy Scriptures and law of God Princes and Bishops did not entermeddle with that matter atal For had it been simply lawfull for them to have dealt in those causes by the word of God then aswell before schisme discord and dissention as afterward yea rather much more before than afterward For then by their owne right might Princes and Bishops have prevented Bishops nâ—eddle not with election of Pastors by the holy Scriptures all occasion of schism and contention and have so preserved the Church that no tumult or disorder should once have beene raised or begun therein Againe if by the law of God Princes and Bishops had medled in these matters and had not intermedled by humane device then lawfully by their authoritie alone might they have chosen Pastors Elders and Deacons in the old Churches which thing in this place by necessary inference he denieth For schisme saith he caused them to intermeddle So as by his confession they were but intermedlers and entercommoners by reason of schisme and not commoners and medlers by vertue of Gods word And yet now a dayes our reverend Bishops in this case are no more intercommoners with Princes and with the people they ate no more entermedlers as in old times they were but they have now so far incroached upon the prerogatives of the prince and privileges of the people that neither prince nor people have any commons in the election of Pastors Elders and Deacons with them at all Besides if schism and contention among the people Bishops â—n croach upon the â—ighâ— oâ— pâ—â—â—ce and people were the reason why Bishops first entermedled in the choice of Pastours we now having no schisme nor contention about the choice of Pastours by the people and so the cause of ceasing why should not the effect likewise cease But this effect is therefore still to bee continued because otherwise the cause would a new sprout out and spring up againe Nay rather inasmuch as for these many yeares we have had schism discord and dissention because the bishops wholly and altogether have medled in the choise of pastours and have thrust upon the people whatsoever pastours please not the people but pleased themselves and have not suffered the people to meddle no not so much as once to intermeddle in these matters in as much I say as these things be so it seemeth most expedient requisite and necessary for the appeasing and pacifying of this discord and the taking away of this schism to have the manner of election which was in the old Churches restored to the people and this wherein the bishops have intermedled without authoritie from the word to be abolished that so againe the cause of scbism and strife which is now among us ceasing the effect might likewise cease After I had ended this tract in this manner touching this point there came into mine hands a booke intituled The perpetuall government of Christs Church written by Thomas Bilson Warden of Winchester Colledge in the fifteenth chapter of which booke is handled this question viz. to whom the election of Bishops and Presbyters doth rightly belong and whetherby Gods law the people must elect their pastours or no. In which chapter also the matter of schism strife and contention is handled The finall scope and conclusion whereof is as the proposition importeth twofold First concerning Bishops then concerning Pastours The quarrell taken against Bishops doth not so much touch saith hee the office and functions of Bishops as it doth the Princes prerogative When you rather thinke the Prince may not name her Bishops without the consent and election of the people you impugne not us but directly call the Princes fact and her lawes in question As touching this point of the proposition because the people by any law or custome never challenged any right or interest in the choise of the Kings bishops wee have nothing The King only hath power without the people to nominate his Kingly Bb. to meddle or to make about the choise of any of the Kings Bishops Nay we confesse as his highnesse progenitors Kings of England have beene the Soveraigne Donours Founders Lords and Avowes of all the Bishopricks in England without aid of the people that so likewise it is a right and interest invested into his Imperiall crowne that he only his heires and successors without consent of the people ought to have the free nomination appointment collation investiture confirmation of all the Bishops from time to time to be planted in any of those Bishoprickes yea and wee say further that the King alone hath not power onely to nominate collate and confirm but also to translate yea and if it please him to depose all his Kingly Bishops without any consent of his people at all For say we ejus est destruere cujus est construere ejus est tollere cujus est condere Neither will we dislike but rather content our selves that our late Queens Bishops if they shall finde favour in the Kings eyes should be also the Kings Bishops conditionally they submit themselves to the lawes and prerogatives of the Kings Crowne content themselves with the only name of Kingly and Princely Bishops and not challenge any more unto themselves the sole titles of Godly and Christian Bishops as though without injurie to the law of â—od and Gospell of our Saviour Christ they could not bee dispossessed of their Lordly Bishopricks And therefore our most humble prayer to the King is that his Majestie would bee pleased that such his Kingly Bishops may not henceforth over crow and justle out Gods Bishops nor have any primacie over Gods Bishops And withall that the King himselfe would vouchsafe to hearken to the doctrine of such as are indeed Gods Bishops rather than to the Counsell of those who lately were the Queenes bishops As touching the second part viz. whether the people by Gods M. Bilson confirmeth the peoples election of their pastor p. 339. law must elect their Pastours or no Master Bilson by reasons and proofes brought for the first use of it rather confirmeth than impugneth the same For saith hee Well may the peoples interest stand upon the grounds of reason and nature and bee derived from the rules of Christian equitie and societie That each Church and people stand free by Gods law to admit maintaine or obey no maâ— as their Pastour without their liking unlesse by law custome or consent they have restrained themselves Then the people had as much right to choose their 360 Pastour as the Clergie that had more skill to judge that the Apostles left elections indifferent to the people and Clergie at Jerusalem That the Apostles in the Acts when they willed the Church at Jerusalem to choose the seven did not make any remembrance or
bishops and societie against the right and freedome of the law of God against the principles of humane fellowships against that which was in the begining and against that which the Apostles left in the Churches by colour of lawes brought into the Church by the cursings and fightings of the late Romane Bishops they would not henceforth barre and seclude the Kings Christian and faithfull people from giving their consents unto their pastours Yea and we further beseech their Lordships that are schollers unto the Apostles and as servants unto the old way of reason of nature of the law of God of the equitie of Christ and of humane societie they would hereafter imbrace that way which was from the beginning which is the old way and the best way and not any longer persist in a cursed and quarrelling way which is the new way and the worst way But if the Lords spirituall of their own accord shal not readily vouclsafe to yeeld unto us this our right at our intreatie then for my part I will briefly shew mine opinion what were expedient for the A supplieation to the king by the Lords and commons for the restitution of their right in the choice of their pastors Lords and commons in open parliament dutifully to pray and to supplicate at the Kings Majesties hand Namely At the humble petitions and supplications of all his Lords temporall and commons in Parliament assembled his majestie would bee well pleased to give his Royall assent to an act to be intituled An act for the restitution of the ancient right and freedome which the people of God in the old Churches had and which the people of England ought to have in to or about the election of their Pastours and abolishing all papal power repugnant to the same For if as it is plainly confessed the people of all Churches have right and freedome by the law of God by the equitie of Christ by the grounds of reason and nature by the principles of humane fellowships and by that which was from the beginning to elect their pastours and if also the same right and freedome being left to the old Churches and especially to the Church at Ierusalem by the Apostles have beene taken away by the cursings and fightings of the late Bishops of Rome then cannot the people without violation of those lawes rules and grounds by any Episcopall power be any more excluded from their said right and freedome than could or might the ancient jurisdiction of the Crowne of England have beene still usurped by the pope from the Kings of England ADMONITION But alas the common people of England thorough affection and want of right judgement are more easily wrought by ambitious persons to give their consâ—nt to unworthy men as may appeare in all those officâ—s of gaine or dignitie that at this day remaine in the choise of the multitude ASSERTION The Admonitor in one place of his admonition telleth us that he must not put all that he thinketh in writing and yet he writeth in this place that thing which might far better have been utterly unthought than once written for could he thinke to win the common people of England to a continuall good liking of high and stately prelacie by upbraiding and charging them to their faces in a book dedicated unto them with affection and wanting of right judgement Was this the way to procure grace favour and benevolence at their hands And albeit this slander deserved rather to have beene censured by the Commons in Parliament than by confutation to have beene answered yet for the better clearing of the right judgement of the common people giving their consents to most worthy men in all offices of gaine or dignitie remaining in their hands I thinke it necessarie to shew the indignitie of this contumelie There be I confesse in London Yorke Lincoln Bristow Exceter Norwich Coventry and other principall Cities and townes corporate Majors Sheriffes Stewards Recorders Bailiffes Chamberlains Bridge-masters Clerkes Swordbearers Knights Burgesses and such like offices some of dignitie some of gaine but that the officers of these or any other places whether of dignitie or gaine be chosen by the multitude of those places is utterly untrue for onely according to their ancient customes priviledges and Charters by the chief Citizens Townsmen and Borough-masters are those officers chosen The number also of which Electors in all places is not alike In London the Aldermen choose the Lord Major In other Cities and Townes sometimes eight and forty sometimes fourteene sometimes twelve sometimes only such as have borne office as Majors Sheriffes and Bailiffs in the same places nominate and elect their new Major Sheriffs and Bailiffes But that the Aldermen principall Towns-men Borough-masters and men having born chief offices in those cities towns and boroughs have easily been wrought by ambitious persons to give their consents unto unworthy men though it have pleased the Ll. Bb. with seene and allowed to have spred and published this saying yet that the same saying is wholly unworthy of any credit to bee given unto it or to bee regarded of any wise and indifferent man let the sober and peaceable elections made of the worthies of the land hereafter mentioned be witnesses The officers in Cities and townes corporate chosen with out contention and ambitious working of unworthy men And to leave to speake of the election of the Lord Major of the Citie of London Sheriffs Aldermen Wardens of companies Chamberlains bridge-masters and other annuall officers of honour and dignitie let us consider whether the Citizens of London have beene wrought by ambitious persons to choose M. Wilbraham M. Onslie M. Bromley to be their Recorders â—ll three afterward the Queenes solicitors and M. Bromly Lord Chancellor of England and let us consider whether the same Citizens as men of affection and want of right judgement did elect to be Recorders of the same Citie M. Serjeant Fleetwood Master Serjeant Flemming Master Serjeant Drue and how Master Crooke a man wise learned and religious and a Counseller and justicer within the principâ—litie of Wales The Recorder of the towne of Bedford is the right honourable the Lord S. Iohns of Bletsoe The Recorder of Bristoll was a long time Master Poppam now Lord chief Justice of England The Recorder of Northampton before he came to be Judge in the Kings bench was Master Serjeant Yelverton a favouter of the truth and an upright Justicer The Recorder of Warnick was Master Serjeant Puckering afterward Lord keeper of the great seale And of the same towne the Recorder now is a worthy Knight descended from a noble house Sir Foulke Grevile The Recorder of Coventrie is Sir Iohn Harrington Knight a man zealous for the true feare of God The Recorder of Chichester was M. Serjeant Lewkner now chiefe Justice in the principalitâ—e of Wales The Recorder of Norwich was Master Cooke the Kings Atturney generall And who soever shall enquire after the names and after the manner of election
of all the Recorders in all other Cities and Boroughs of the land I doubt not but he shall finde them all to have been farre from any least shew of ambitious working the Citizens and townsmen to nominate and elect them Moreover as these noble Persons these sage grave learned and christian Gentlemen quietly and in all peacable maner with upright and good affection and judgement and without ambition have beene chosen by the Citizens Townes-men and Boroughmasters to the office 〈◊〉 â—ecorderships So likewise many and sundry honourable Counsellorâ— have beene and as occasion is Honorable Counselors chosen high stewards without ambitious working ministred are daily elected by Citizens and Townesmen to be their high Stewards Sir Francis Knolles an honourable counsellor and one whose faith was famous among the Churches as well abroad as at home by the election of the citizens of Oxford remained untill he died high Steward of the Citie of Oxford The right honourable Sir Francis Walsingham by the common counsell of Ipswich was made high Steward of the same towne after whose decease the same common counsell by their election surrogated into the same place the right honourable the L. Hunsdon late L. Chamberlain The right honourable S. Christopher Hatton L. Chancelor of England by the townsmen of Cambridge was chosen to be high steward for the town of Camb. The right Ho. the old F. of Arundel and after him the right Ho. E. of Lincoln and after his death the right honourable the L. high Admirall of England now E. of Notingham by the boâ—oughmasters of the town of Gildford was elected to be high steward of the towne of Gildford Of all which honourable persons and of all other their Peeres chosen in other places of the Kingdome by the same meanes to the like offices there is great reason and just cause for the reverend Bishops to carry a more reverend estimation towards them than to burden them as ambitious persons to have sought their places at the hands of men affected and wanting right judgement As for any other offices of credit dignitie charge and government in the common weal now remaining in the choise of the commons it may easily be proved that the common people in sundry places have bent and opposed themselves against ambitious persons who by sinister and indirect meanes have hunted for preferment at their hands And what if it cannot be gain-said but that some publike officers chosen by publike applause of the people have corruptly behaved themselves in their charges and have not so equally and indifferently distributed justice to all degrees as it became them yet this their misdemeanour can no more justly be laid as a fault nor any more disgrace or discountenance the ancient and commendable forme and manner of election than the hypocrisie or counterfeit zeale of an evill man ordained by the bishop to be a Minister can be imputed unto his letters of orders or manner of ordination Besides if none be able Knights of the shires â—â— other officers chosen by the people without trouble to the state to prove that the choise of the Knights of our Shires Coroners of the Counties Verderers of the kings forests resting in the free voices and consents of the freeholders that the nomination of the high Constables being in the disposition of the Justices of peace at their quarter sessions that the choise of our peti-Constables third Boroughs Tythingmen Churchwardens wardens for the highwayes overseers for the poore side men and such like remaining altogether in the free elections of the suitors to courts Leets and lawdayes and of the inhabitants and Parishioners of every Village Hamlet or Tything have beene troublesome to the Lievtenants of the Shires to the Stewards of our Courts to the Lords of our liberties nor to the ordinaries of the Diocesses If I say there be not any one man able to bring forth some few persons for many yeares passed by whome the Officers and Magistrates of the Queens peace have been sued unto and importuned for the pacification of any strife contention or debate of any busie head or ambitious person raised among the people about the choise of any one of these Oficers then I say it is meet and it importeth the Lords Bishops very deeply that for ever hereafter they be silent and never any more utter so Pag. 8. vile a slander against so noble a people as are the people of England viz. that upon affection and want of right judgement they will easily be led by ambitious persons to preferre unworthy persons unâ—o all Offices of gaine or dignitie Or that this Nation of England upon light causes is more enclined to broyle and trouble than any other And to speake the truth as daily experience teacheth us what No feare of trouble about the choice of an ecclesiasticall Officer seare of trouble is there likely any way to ensue by reason of dissention and ambition among the people in the choise of an ecclesiasticall Officer when most of the people shall rather shun and eschew than long or desire to beare any ecclesiasticall office The common people among whom I dwell use oftentimes many delayes yea they procure what favour and friendship they can not to be appointed to any the inferiour Offices before specified And why doe they so but becauâ—e those offices be full of bodily care and trouble And is there then any Christian knowing how the whole soule mind and spirit of a man is altogether to be imployed in the discharge of a spirituall function that will dissentiously and ambitiously seeke to be chosen an Elder The admonitor telleth us that men by experience know that many parishes upon some private respect doe send their letters of earnest pag. 79 commendation for very unfit and unable persons insinuating thereby what an inconvenience might follow if Parishes had the whole direction and order to sound out who were fit and able persons But as this fancie was never yet by any of sound judgement on our behalfe so much as once thought much lesse insisted upon so may it please the reverend Bishops to be advertised that the meanest and simpliest parishioner among a thousand can quickly retort this reason against their Lo. viz. that no parishes by letters of commendation can commend unso any bishop any person as an able and fit man unto any particular parish or speciall charge unlesse the same or some other bishop have formerly ordained him and approved him to bee a fit and able person for every place And how then were it possible if the choice of having one to be their pastor were wholly in the hands of a parish that the same parish could choose any worse men any more ignorant and unlearned men than their Lords have commended unto us For have they not chosen sent and commended such unto us as know not a bee from a batle doore as uneth know to Ministers sent unto the people which know not a be from
a battle doors read English and as know not the Lords prayer from the articles of faith Of which sort of Ministers the Parson of Haskam now living a Chaplaine in Winton-diocesse may be produced for a witnesse omni exceptione major For thus much is to be proved from the report of a good and religious Knight dwelling within that diocesse that upon a time in the presence and at the instant request of the said Knight when a Protestant bishop of the same diocesse deceased had demanded of the new Parson of Haskam which was the first Petition of the Lords prayer the said Parson after hee had a prety space paused The parson of Haskams answer to the Bishop of Winchester and gased towards heaven at length made this answer viz. I believe in God the Father Almighty at which answer the Knight merily smileing I told you my Lord quoth the Knight what a profound Clerke your Lordship should finde this fellow Well how unclerkely and how unprofoundly soever this Clerke then answered and albeit at that present he could not obtaine the institution which he came for to that benefice for the good Bishop hated such grosse ignorance yet this Clerke afterwards by the corruption of the sâ—me Bishops Chancellour was instituted into the same benefice and to this day possesseth it quietly though he can hardly read English to the understanding of his people I could have enformed him also of many other such Clerks resiant and beneficed in that Diocesse and namely of the Vicar of W. who upon an holy day instead of preaching the word which he could not or in reading of Homilies Fables read in the Church which he would not to terrifie his Parishioners with the judgements of God and to move them unto repentance solemnly read and published a counterfeit fable out of a little Pamphlet intitulâ—d Strange newes out of Calabria pretended to bee prognosticated by M. Iohn Doleta Of these and of a number of such able and skilfull Clerks and Chaplains my Lords of the Clergie may be enformed â—f the people had choise of their pastors they would provide better than the bishops send them And therefore on the behoof and in the defence of the common people of England I am to testifie and to protest unto their Lordships that by the mercifulnesse and goodnesse of our God we are not yet become so ignorant rude and barbarous as that we would admit such manner of Clerkes and Chaplaines to have the cure of our soules in case it laid in our power to choose and refuse our owne Pastours No no our soules and the soules of our wives children and families should be more dear and more precious in our eyes than that carelesly we would hazzard all our birthrights upon the skill and abilitie of such a messe of hirelings and idoll shepheards And surely me thinkes it standeth greatly with the charitie of our Lord Bishops to conceive Though the common people bee not able to discerne of pastors yet the Nobles are able the Commons to have so much naturall understanding as not to choose a cobler when they want a carpenter nor to retaine a loyterer in lieu of a labourer nor to hire a sleeper in stead of a watchman But alas be it that the poore Commons of England were thus wretched and thus bewitched yea be it that they were thus desperate and besides themselves should therefore the Nobles and Peeres of the Realm be as prophane as impious and as heathenish as they Are the great men also unworthy unable and unfit to discerne between night and day betweene light and darknesse Can they also put no difference betweene good and evill betweene a blind guide and him that hath his eye-sight or have they no better stomach than to cast up Mithridate and to digest hemlocke will they also chuse them Captaines from among Corvisers and will they call shepheards from among swineheards or will they take them pastours from among pedlers or will my Lords of the clergie charge them to bee those ambitious persons to work the Commons for their private respect to the choise of unworthy men or will they being themselvs under his Majestie the worthies of the land and chiefe guides and leaders of men in peace and in war upon earth chuse the scumm the refuse and the baggage of the land to guide their owne soules to hell For to heaven by the labour and industrie of such idoll ministers as whose lips preserve no knowledge they can never bee brought A great part of the common people saith hee are backwardly affected towards the truth of Religion from which backwardnesse The common people accused to bee backwardly affected to religion he draweth an argument against the allowance of the pastors by the people But alas is there any marvail that the common people for the most part be backwardly affected For how is it possible that they should step one foot forward when either their guides stand still or goe not at all or at least run fromward or can The backwardnesse of the people proceedeth from the backwardnesse of their guides the common people become good schollers in the schoole of Christ and learne to know the truth of his religion when their Masters and Tutors whom my Lords of the Clergie have begotten provided and thrust upon them be unlearned and irreligious dullards What Can truth spring from errour or can light arise out of darknesse Doe men pluck or pull corne from a dead stalke or a full eare from a dead root Can a Vintener draw wine out of an emptie Casque or doth a Baker poure meale out of a bottomlesse bag If then the common people be foolish and ignorant if they doe erre and bee irreligious they may justly challenge the Lords spirituall of unkindnesse and want of love not because they have sent Embassadors unto them as the Gibeonites sent unto Iosua with old sackes and old bottels with old shooes and old rayment with provision of bread dried and mouled but because they have sent them such ambassadors as have had no sackes no bottels no shooes no raiment yea and no manner of bread at all All which notwithstanding the Admonitor by the backwardnesse of the people laboureth mightily to acquit the Lord Bishops laying to the peoples charge that this fault hath not happened for want of teaching by the Ministers but for want or profiting by the people The Scripture saith he in no place teacheth us that the offences and faultes of the Ministers are alwayes the only cauâ—e why the word of God doth not take place in mens hearts It is commonly and almost always imputed to the way wardnesse unthankfulnesse and obstinacie of the people that heare it But alas who ever fancied that the faults of the Ministers of God were the only cause why the word of God preached by them did not enter into the hearts of men Where the Minister sincerely preacheth the word of God if there the
Cecill TO the end I may enforme your Lordship of my dealing in this Parliament-time against the undue claimed superiority of the Bishops over their inferior brethren Thus it was Because I was in the Parliament time in the 25. yeare of King Henry the eight In which time First all the Clergie aswell Bishops as others made an humble submission to King Henry the Eighth acknowledging his Supremacie and detesting the usurpation of the Bishops of Romes authoritie Vpon which submssion of the Clergie the King gave unto the said Bishops the same ample rule that before they had under the Pope over their inferiour brethren saving that the same rule was abridged by stature by this parenthesis following that is to say without offending the prerogative Royall of the Crowne of England and the lawes and customes of the Realme In the later end of the Statute it was added that whosoever offendeth in any one part of that statute and their Aydors Counsellors and Abbettors they did all fall into the penalty of the premunire And after I had recited this statute in the Parliament house I declared that in King Henry the Eight dayes after this There was no Bishop that did practise superio rity over their inferior brethren And in King Edwards dayes the said Bishops obtained a statute whereby they were authorized to keepe their Courts in the Kings name the which statute was repealed in Queene Maries dayes and was not received in her Majesties time that now is whereupon it was doubtfull to me by what authority the Bishops do keepe their Courts now in their owne names because it is against the Prerogative Royall of the Crowne of England that any should keepe a Court without sufficient warrant from the Crowne Whereupon I was answered that the Bishops doe keepe their Courts now by prescriptions and it is true that the Bishop may prescribe that King Henry the 8. gave them authority by the statute of 25. of his raigne to have authority and rule over their inferior brethren as ample as they had in the Popes time But this was no speciall warrant for them to keepe their Courts by and that in their owne names And yet they have none other warrant to keep their Courts as they doe now in their owne names to my knowledge And this was the cause that made them obtaine a statute in King Edwards dayes to keepe their Courts by in the Kings name Now it is a strange allegation that the Bishops should claime authority at this present to keep their Courts in their own names as they do by prescription because the statute of 25. doth restraine them generally from offending of the Prerogative Royall of the Crowne of England and the Lawes and customes of the Realme And no man may justly keepe a Court without a speciall warrant from the Crowne of England as is aforesaid And the generall liberty given by King H. the 8. to the Bishops to rule and governe as they did in the Popes time is no sufficient warrant to the Bishops to keep their owne Courts in their own names by prescription as I take it And therefore the Bishops had done wisely if they had sought a warrant by statute to keepe their Courts in the Queenes name as the Bb. did in K. Edwards dayes In which time Arch. Cranmer did cause Peter Martir and Bucer to come over into this Realme to be placed in the two Vniversities for the better instruction of the Vniversities in the word of God And B. Cranmer did humbly prefer these learned men without any challenge to himselfe of any superior rule in this behalfe over his inferiour brethren And the time hath bin that no man could carry away any grant from the Crowne of England by generall words but that hee must have speciall words to carry the same by Therefore how the B. are warranted to carry away the keeping of their Courts in their owne names by prescription it passeth my understanding Moreover where as your Lordship said unto mee that the Bishops have forsaken their claime of superiority over their inferior brethren lately to bee by Gods ordinance and that now they doe only claime superiority from her Majesties supreme government If this be true then is it requisite and necessary that my L. of Canterbury that now is do recant and retract his saying in his book of the great volume against Cartwright where he saith in plaine words by the name of D. Whitgift that the superiority of B. is Gods owne institution Which saying doth impugne her Majesties supreme government directly and therefore it is to bee retracted plainly and truly For Christ plainly and truly confesseth Ioh. 18. 36. That his Kingdome was not of this world And therefore he gave no worldly rule or preheminence to his Apostles but the heavenly rule which was to preach the Gospell saying Ite praedicate in omnem mundum qnicunque crediderit baptizatus fuerâ—t salvus erit qui non crediderit condemnabitur Goe and preach in all the world whosoever shall beleeve be baptized shall bee saved but he that will not beleeve shall be condemned Mark 16. 15. But the Bishops do cry out saying that Cartwright and his fellows would have no government c. So belike the B. care for no government but for worldly and forcible government over their brethren the which Christ never gave to his Disciples nor Apostles but made them subject to the rule of Princes who ought not to be resisted saving that they might answer unto Princes that they must rather obey God than men Acts 5. 29. and yet in no wise to resist the Prince but to take up the Crosse and follow Christ FINIS