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A37308 The religion of Mar. Luther, neither Catholick nor Protestant prov'd from his own works with some reflections in answer to the Vindication of Mar. Luther's spirit, printed at the Theater in Oxon ; his vindication being another argument of the schism of the Church of England. Deane, Thomas, 1651-1735. 1688 (1688) Wing D499; ESTC R13868 16,941 25

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